President Trump: "If Senate can't replace, then immediately repeal!"

Started by taxed, June 30, 2017, 01:42:45 PM

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Guess who's been nudged back to the right...

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/trump-senate-if-you-cant-replace-immediately-repeal

QuoteIn a Friday morning tweet, President Donald Trump sent lawmakers a message on the stalled effort to produce a Republican health care bill:

"If Republican Senators are unable to pass what they are working on now, they should immediately REPEAL, and then REPLACE at a later date!"

This is the first time Trump has advocated straight repeal.

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It's gotta pass!!!   They already voted to repeal it dozens of times, what's the difference now?

(I didn't believe in "show votes" - did anyone else?)
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Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2017, 02:24:22 PM
He hears us and it appears we're getting through to him. :thumbsup:
I think he has always been for repeal but tied up in the campaign rhetoric to repeal and replace! I've always thought straight repeal the better option tied to say a 2 year draw down that gives congress a chance to fix the real problems like say, TORT REFORM!! There a million different ways to help the disenfranchised that cost one hell of a lot less then Obama care.
We should tack a thread at the top for real suggestions on how to cut insurance costs and also offer a basic care safety net to the uninsured and underinsured short of one size fits all commie care! :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

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Quote from: redbeard on June 30, 2017, 03:40:58 PM
I think he has always been for repeal but tied up in the campaign rhetoric to repeal and replace! I've always thought straight repeal the better option tied to say a 2 year draw down that gives congress a chance to fix the real problems like say, TORT REFORM!! There a million different ways to help the disenfranchised that cost one hell of a lot less then Obama care.
We should tack a thread at the top for real suggestions on how to cut insurance costs and also offer a basic care safety net to the uninsured and underinsured short of one size fits all commie care!
Why?
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Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2017, 06:11:52 PM
Why?
Before Commie care we had heath care cost problems brought by indigent people using the emergency rm. every time they had a head cold. these cost to the hospitals were spread to all the other patents and their insurance cost driven up. Tort reform is another issue that drives up cost. Just the threat of lawsuits cause doctors to over test "just in case" driving up cost. overpayment for legitimate suits drive up cost went someone's award is 10 time the damage done.
These are things that needed to be addressed prior to Obama nationalizing the whole system! I want to return to what we had prior to the Marxist and fix the problems causing the serious rise in cost prior to 2010.

Solar

Quote from: redbeard on June 30, 2017, 06:25:55 PM
Before Commie care we had heath care cost problems brought by indigent people using the emergency rm. every time they had a head cold. these cost to the hospitals were spread to all the other patents and their insurance cost driven up. Tort reform is another issue that drives up cost. Just the threat of lawsuits cause doctors to over test "just in case" driving up cost. overpayment for legitimate suits drive up cost went someone's award is 10 time the damage done.
These are things that needed to be addressed prior to Obama nationalizing the whole system! I want to return to what we had prior to the Marxist and fix the problems causing the serious rise in cost prior to 2010.
And how is socialized medicine going to change that, isn't that the point of this thread, eliminating govt interference?
Yet here you are advocating for the very entity that created the mess, and giving them the keys to the treasury to fix it?
There is but one solution, get govt the Hell out of it altogether, no if's, and's or but's about it, turn it all overt to the private sector and it will find an equilibrium.
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Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2017, 06:36:30 PM
And how is socialized medicine going to change that, isn't that the point of this thread, eliminating govt interference?
Yet here you are advocating for the very entity that created the mess, and giving them the keys to the treasury to fix it?
There is but one solution, get govt the Hell out of it altogether, no if's, and's or but's about it, turn it all overt to the private sector and it will find an equilibrium.
Where in the post I just made do you get that I support socialized medicine? Because I support TORT reform or getting the deadbeats out of the emergency room? The government needs to get out of the insurance business.

Cryptic Bert

What would happen if the congress simply repealed without a replacement? Would people lose coverage?

Solar

Quote from: redbeard on June 30, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
Where in the post I just made do you get that I support socialized medicine? Because I support TORT reform or getting the deadbeats out of the emergency room? The government needs to get out of the insurance business.

Quote from: redbeard on June 30, 2017, 03:40:58 PM
also offer a basic care safety net to the uninsured and underinsured short of one size fits all commie care!
I'll ask again. Why do you want the very entity responsible for screwing up HC in the first place, another seat back at the table?
If your kid keeps wrecking the family car, do you keep giving him the keys to the next one you buy? Our govt is that same irresponsible child!

That's where we are, the govt has been wrecking and interfering in HC for decades and they finally destroyed it, and you want to let them back to the table, again, why?
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Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 30, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
What would happen if the congress simply repealed without a replacement? Would people lose coverage?
That should be up to the states, shouldn't it? :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2017, 07:46:33 PM
That should be up to the states, shouldn't it? :biggrin:
I was thinking more about the insurance companies.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 30, 2017, 07:50:58 PM
I was thinking more about the insurance companies.
If they can't survive without govt, I hope they die overnight, but I have a feeling they'd thrive without all the bureaucracy.
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Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 30, 2017, 07:25:49 PM
What would happen if the congress simply repealed without a replacement? Would people lose coverage?

I grew up without health insurance, but never had a problem seeing a doctor
(which was so frequent, my mother tried to pair me up with nurses, repeatedly).   

Do we want Doctors & Nurses or Insurance?  Repeal the darn thing. 
What benefit is a billion dollar policy without a doctor who accepts it?
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Quote from: Solar on June 30, 2017, 07:55:13 PM
If they can't survive without govt, I hope they die overnight, but I have a feeling they'd thrive without all the bureaucracy.

Truth be told, Government can't survive without their votes... and the republic would be restored quickly without them.
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