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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Solar on July 31, 2018, 06:30:13 AM

Title: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2018, 06:30:13 AM
That's Right, ANTIFA mobs known for violence set up camp and the police, under direction of the Mayor refused to do a damn thing.

Portland, Oregon, police refused to respond to at least two 911 emergency calls from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) employees inside their offices where violent protesters held week-long demonstrations.

The National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council, a union representing ICE employees, wrote a cease-and-desist letter to Mayor Ted Wheeler, asking him to ensure the police enforce the law equally and protect innocent people.

"Your current policy forbidding Portland law enforcement agencies from assisting employees of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency who request law enforcement assistance while at or away from work is a violation of the United States Constitution's Equal Protection Clause," the letter says.

Demonstrators, some affiliated with the domestic terrorist organization Antifa, set up a city of tents outside the ICE offices. After setting up camp, they became violent and incited violence several times.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/30/portland-police-ice-911-calls/
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: AndyJackson on July 31, 2018, 07:08:49 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2018, 06:30:13 AM
That's Right, ANTIFA mobs known for violence set up camp and the police, under direction of the Mayor refused to do a damn thing.

Portland, Oregon, police refused to respond to at least two 911 emergency calls from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) employees inside their offices where violent protesters held week-long demonstrations.

The National Immigration and Customs Enforcement Council, a union representing ICE employees, wrote a cease-and-desist letter to Mayor Ted Wheeler, asking him to ensure the police enforce the law equally and protect innocent people.

"Your current policy forbidding Portland law enforcement agencies from assisting employees of the Immigration and Customs Enforcement Agency who request law enforcement assistance while at or away from work is a violation of the United States Constitution's Equal Protection Clause," the letter says.

Demonstrators, some affiliated with the domestic terrorist organization Antifa, set up a city of tents outside the ICE offices. After setting up camp, they became violent and incited violence several times.

http://dailycaller.com/2018/07/30/portland-police-ice-911-calls/
Can you say civil war ?

It's gonna break down to liberal cities' govts, vs. their citizens.

Virtually all dems and most RINO's will take the side of the former ........ Trump supporters, military (or ex-), sheriffs, etc. will be on the other side.

Sanctuary-LGBT-BLM-Antifa-muslim cities will become a revolutionary 'army' ........ wait and see.  I'm guessing that Obama, Jarrett, Lynch, Holder, Brennan, Clapper, Soros are all lending a hand to stir it up and get funding to them.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2018, 07:18:49 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 31, 2018, 07:08:49 AM
Can you say civil war ?

It's gonna break down to liberal cities' govts, vs. their citizens.

Virtually all dems and most RINO's will take the side of the former ........ Trump supporters, military (or ex-), sheriffs, etc. will be on the other side.

Sanctuary-LGBT-BLM-Antifa-muslim cities will become a revolutionary 'army' ........ wait and see.  I'm guessing that Obama, Jarrett, Lynch, Holder, Brennan, Clapper, Soros are all lending a hand to stir it up and get funding to them.
I've never understood the mentality of the left and their promotion of a civil war, it's like rooting for terrorists to succeed, there is no winner in a civil war, only losers, and the left will most certainly be the biggest losers since they're a tiny minority of the population that gets the lion share of media attention.
The media gives a false impression that the nation shares their ideals, when in fact, it's less than 10% think violence solves anything.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Possum on July 31, 2018, 09:30:59 AM
Just wait until after the mid terms. Libs will burn and destroy their own cities.
Where have we seen this?
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2018, 10:09:22 AM
Quote from: s3779m on July 31, 2018, 09:30:59 AM
Just wait until after the mid terms. Libs will burn and destroy their own cities.
Where have we seen this?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Must see TV.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Sick Of Silence on July 31, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
I.C.E. is government. Since local L.E. is being partisan, can I.C.E. request for state, federal, or military enforcement?
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on July 31, 2018, 10:39:50 AM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 31, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
I.C.E. is government. Since local L.E. is being partisan, can I.C.E. request for state, federal, or military enforcement?
Good question, I was wondering where their Fed backup was too.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: walkstall on July 31, 2018, 10:41:59 AM
Quote from: s3779m on July 31, 2018, 09:30:59 AM
Just wait until after the mid terms. Libs will burn and destroy their own cities.
Where have we seen this?

Then they can live in it that way or fix it up themselves.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Billy's bayonet on July 31, 2018, 12:48:24 PM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 31, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
I.C.E. is government. Since local L.E. is being partisan, can I.C.E. request for state, federal, or military enforcement?


Don't have to If any ICE officers are aworn as US Marshals (Most taks forces have several officers thu sworn) they can ue assimiltive crimes act and enforce State Law, they don;t like to do it for misdemeanors like "protesting without Permit"  and "Establishing abode on public space" which is about the extent of the violations these jerks have committed UNTIL somebody tries to move them and the assaults begin.I beleive there is a federal law against demonstrations within so many feet of a Federal Building as well....used to be 100ft In Wash DC
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: AndyJackson on July 31, 2018, 02:22:22 PM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on July 31, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
I.C.E. is government. Since local L.E. is being partisan, can I.C.E. request for state, federal, or military enforcement?
I wonder why ICE can't pull rank and take over the site / case, like FBI always does to local cops ??

Either way, the lawsuits should be epic.  That's what we always don't do.  It's past time to do it.  Just like the left, everybody who was hurt, insulted, or inconvenienced should be suing like lunatics.  That's the only way to make change.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Sick Of Silence on August 01, 2018, 07:03:51 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 31, 2018, 10:39:50 AM
Good question, I was wondering where their Fed backup was too.

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on July 31, 2018, 12:48:24 PM

Don't have to If any ICE officers are aworn as US Marshals (Most taks forces have several officers thu sworn) they can ue assimiltive crimes act and enforce State Law, they don;t like to do it for misdemeanors like "protesting without Permit"  and "Establishing abode on public space" which is about the extent of the violations these jerks have committed UNTIL somebody tries to move them and the assaults begin.I beleive there is a federal law against demonstrations within so many feet of a Federal Building as well....used to be 100ft In Wash DC

Quote from: AndyJackson on July 31, 2018, 02:22:22 PM
I wonder why ICE can't pull rank and take over the site / case, like FBI always does to local cops ??

Either way, the lawsuits should be epic.  That's what we always don't do.  It's past time to do it.  Just like the left, everybody who was hurt, insulted, or inconvenienced should be suing like lunatics.  That's the only way to make change.

Can the police chief, mayor, other local person in charge be arrested and charge with a federal crime?
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2018, 07:16:51 AM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on August 01, 2018, 07:03:51 AM
Can the police chief, mayor, other local person in charge be arrested and charge with a federal crime?
Yep, but it will only end n a salp on the wrist unless that can show a pattern of obstruction.
Who knows what the Fed has on these Marxist.
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on August 01, 2018, 08:32:20 PM
Cops clear out belligerent Occupy ICE camps nationwide

Police cleared out #OccupyICE encampments across the nation just as ICE is fighting back in Oregon where their emergency calls for help went unheeded.

The far left protesters were cleared out of several locations Tuesday as police worked to remove them from where they set up camp, blocking streets and harassing ICE agents in cities across the U.S.
Police cleared out #OccupyICE encampments across the nation just as ICE is fighting back in Oregon where their emergency calls for help went unheeded.

The far left protesters were cleared out of several locations Tuesday as police worked to remove them from where they set up camp, blocking streets and harassing ICE agents in cities across the U.S.
Video at link
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/08/01/cops-clear-out-belligerent-occupy-ice-camps-nationwide-659882
Title: Re: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: supsalemgr on August 02, 2018, 04:18:57 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 01, 2018, 08:32:20 PM
Cops clear out belligerent Occupy ICE camps nationwide

Police cleared out #OccupyICE encampments across the nation just as ICE is fighting back in Oregon where their emergency calls for help went unheeded.

The far left protesters were cleared out of several locations Tuesday as police worked to remove them from where they set up camp, blocking streets and harassing ICE agents in cities across the U.S.
Police cleared out #OccupyICE encampments across the nation just as ICE is fighting back in Oregon where their emergency calls for help went unheeded.

The far left protesters were cleared out of several locations Tuesday as police worked to remove them from where they set up camp, blocking streets and harassing ICE agents in cities across the U.S.
Video at link
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/08/01/cops-clear-out-belligerent-occupy-ice-camps-nationwide-659882

And I bet the cops enjoyed every moment of it. I am not an advocate of any police strikes, but I would support the Portland police if they would strike over the idiocy of the mayor.
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 02, 2018, 05:35:19 AM
Somebody made a phone call "dropped a dime" in police parlance......more things get done "back channel" than anyway else. And you are right in your surmise how much the cops disliike these 'Occupy' jerks

I wonder what dirt the cops have on Portlands mayor...... :popcorn:
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2018, 08:04:45 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 02, 2018, 05:35:19 AM
Somebody made a phone call "dropped a dime" in police parlance......more things get done "back channel" than anyway else. And you are right in your surmise how much the cops disliike these 'Occupy' jerks

I wonder what dirt the cops have on Portlands mayor...... :popcorn:
They're ANTIFA, SOROS backed Marxists, they''re not even Portland citizens and the mayor supports them.

Portland police union president says city 'a cesspool

Video.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/17/portland-police-union-president-says-city-cesspool-amid-failed-policies-on-homelessness.htmli
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: supsalemgr on August 02, 2018, 08:49:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on August 02, 2018, 08:04:45 AM
They're ANTIFA, SOROS backed Marxists, they''re not even Portland citizens and the mayor supports them.

Portland police union president says city 'a cesspool

Video.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/17/portland-police-union-president-says-city-cesspool-amid-failed-policies-on-homelessness.htmli

This is a pretty big split when one considers police departments are usually a political arm of the mayor.
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Solar on August 02, 2018, 10:09:43 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 02, 2018, 08:49:56 AM
This is a pretty big split when one considers police departments are usually a political arm of the mayor.
Yeah, when it boils down to rank and file, the officers put pressure on their representatives.
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 02, 2018, 07:17:30 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 02, 2018, 08:49:56 AM
This is a pretty big split when one considers police departments are usually a political arm of the mayor.


The Mayor usually "Owns" most of the high ranking "Brass" from the Cheif to operational commanders like Deputy CHieffs and assistants, there is a grey area between those ranks and "Captains" which is usally an appointment. Sgt thru Lieutenant are tested positions that really run the depts you get a lot of brown nosing Assholes who will step over their mother to make Captain, but theis is where you find the real "Cops" these are the guys who usually stand up to upper management and do ontheir own within the frame work of the law and it often drives "the brass" nuts. I suspect this is what happened here. The rank and file supported by "Mid level Management" had enough of these ANTIFA scum and pulled some strings to get the job done.  That scenario has been repeated since Sir Robert Peele created the first Police Department.
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: supsalemgr on August 03, 2018, 04:28:19 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on August 02, 2018, 07:17:30 PM

The Mayor usually "Owns" most of the high ranking "Brass" from the Cheif to operational commanders like Deputy CHieffs and assistants, there is a grey area between those ranks and "Captains" which is usally an appointment. Sgt thru Lieutenant are tested positions that really run the depts you get a lot of brown nosing Assholes who will step over their mother to make Captain, but theis is where you find the real "Cops" these are the guys who usually stand up to upper management and do ontheir own within the frame work of the law and it often drives "the brass" nuts. I suspect this is what happened here. The rank and file supported by "Mid level Management" had enough of these ANTIFA scum and pulled some strings to get the job done.  That scenario has been repeated since Sir Robert Peele created the first Police Department.

I have never been in LE. However, I think I can safely say that dedicated law professionals cannot stand to be told to stand down.
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: Billy's bayonet on August 03, 2018, 05:37:12 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 03, 2018, 04:28:19 AM
I have never been in LE. However, I think I can safely say that dedicated law professionals cannot stand to be told to stand down.

You are correct, and many times the "order' is ignored, countermanded or undermined.
Title: Re: UPDATE AUGUST FIRST: PORTLAND POLICE REFUSED TO HELP PEOPLE WHO CALLED 911
Post by: AndyJackson on August 03, 2018, 08:05:41 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on August 03, 2018, 04:28:19 AM
I have never been in LE. However, I think I can safely say that dedicated law professionals cannot stand to be told to stand down.
I think it's quite possible when the chief and his / her  upper echelon are total marxist pukes, carefully selected by the marxist mayor.

Several of these have been just like that.  Quite a few butch dyke chiefs that look like they came from central casting for the role of progressive feminazi police chief.