I truly believe that the chairman of a company has to follow its bylaws.
The Catholic church is known to be the most conservative institution of all in the Western world for about 17 centuries already.
The "bylaw" of the organization has been accepted in the third century A.D. And there have been no guidelines from the "owner" to change something.
Why then Pope Francis shares some shitty liberal ideas, blesses sodomy and makes friends with atheists?
This smacks of industrial espionage
Do you agree?
http://www.littlethings.com/18-acts-from-pope/

One needs to be careful how the MSM (lying sacks of bovine excrement that they are) portrays what the Pope said. Basically, they will spin, lie, spin, rinse repeat in order to make the "most liberal pope in history" seem a lot more liberal than he really is - especially on matters of Church doctrine.

Admittedly, Pope Francis has come out with some dingers with respect to opinions on political matters - to include the entire "global warming" hoax. As a Catholic, I firmly believe the Pope needs to keep his nose - and the Church - out of secular politics. History shows that every time the Church has gotten itself involved with secualr politics, it does not end well for anyone, least of all the Church.  Heck, with the libs we are still living down the Inquisition!

However, when it comes to Church doctrine, Pope Francis has not made ANY indications of any intent to make changes.  For instance, the media came out with a bunch of hooraw about the Pope wanting the Church to accept homosexuality.  That is a plain lie.  Church doctrine holds homosexuality to be a mortal sin, and the Pope is not going to change that, nor does he have any intent to even try. What he DID say is that the practice of a large number of parishes to kick out, shun, and even excommunicate practicing homosexuals is wrong. The purpose of the Church is to bring people to Christ, and people who are involved in a lifestyle of abomination NEED to be led to Christ. The "acceptance" the MSM and libtards salivated over is nothing less than an application of "hate the sin, but love the sinner." We, who are sinners ourselves, cannot bring a person to Christ if we toss them to the curb for being sinners.

Additionally, during the Pope's visit to New York he admonished our society for allowing government to change the definition of marriage.  He states unequivocally that Christian marriage and Civil marriage no longer have anything in common, and that such will end up with great harm to our society. Of course, the MSM didn't show much of THAT particular speech, but chose instead to rerun the Pope's statements on global warming.

I state again, the Pope needs to stay out of politics. Sadly, I don't think my opinion will make much difference to what he does. But otherwise, in matters of the Church, I believe he is a good, loving leader.

Quote from: zewazir on September 28, 2015, 07:08:58 PM
One needs to be careful how the MSM (lying sacks of bovine excrement that they are) portrays what the Pope said. Basically, they will spin, lie, spin, rinse repeat in order to make the "most liberal pope in history" seem a lot more liberal than he really is - especially on matters of Church doctrine.

Admittedly, Pope Francis has come out with some dingers with respect to opinions on political matters - to include the entire "global warming" hoax. As a Catholic, I firmly believe the Pope needs to keep his nose - and the Church - out of secular politics. History shows that every time the Church has gotten itself involved with secualr politics, it does not end well for anyone, least of all the Church.  Heck, with the libs we are still living down the Inquisition!

However, when it comes to Church doctrine, Pope Francis has not made ANY indications of any intent to make changes.  For instance, the media came out with a bunch of hooraw about the Pope wanting the Church to accept homosexuality.  That is a plain lie.  Church doctrine holds homosexuality to be a mortal sin, and the Pope is not going to change that, nor does he have any intent to even try. What he DID say is that the practice of a large number of parishes to kick out, shun, and even excommunicate practicing homosexuals is wrong. The purpose of the Church is to bring people to Christ, and people who are involved in a lifestyle of abomination NEED to be led to Christ. The "acceptance" the MSM and libtards salivated over is nothing less than an application of "hate the sin, but love the sinner." We, who are sinners ourselves, cannot bring a person to Christ if we toss them to the curb for being sinners.

Additionally, during the Pope's visit to New York he admonished our society for allowing government to change the definition of marriage.  He states unequivocally that Christian marriage and Civil marriage no longer have anything in common, and that such will end up with great harm to our society. Of course, the MSM didn't show much of THAT particular speech, but chose instead to rerun the Pope's statements on global warming.

I state again, the Pope needs to stay out of politics. Sadly, I don't think my opinion will make much difference to what he does. But otherwise, in matters of the Church, I believe he is a good, loving leader.

The opinions that he is a leftist is also based as much on what he doesn't say or do as much as what he does say or do. He spent much time on climate change and redistribution of wealth. At the same time he said absolutely nothing about Planned Parenthood other than a milk toast all live matter type statement. Therefore, I agree with you he should stay away from these issues.

Is it my imagination, or did the art of data mining and assigning not just experienced something like a jolt of adrenalin?  Sunday the 27th, for me,  dramatically improved response times in ad directs.  It kept up, never went away. Sidebar response wait times noticeably lessened.
Routine improvements are expected.  I watch for user friendliness all the time. I'm just sayin', changes that affect the entire system don't come along every day.  That takes in the Big Guy.

Quote from: supsalemgr on September 29, 2015, 03:39:18 AM
The opinions that he is a leftist is also based as much on what he doesn't say or do as much as what he does say or do. He spent much time on climate change and redistribution of wealth. At the same time he said absolutely nothing about Planned Parenthood other than a milk toast all live matter type statement. Therefore, I agree with you he should stay away from these issues.

OTOH he made a strong statement in defense of Kim Davis, stating that conscientious objection is a human right. Still a bit more political than religious for the Bishop of Rome, IMO, but he isn't as far left as the MSM and leftist pundits would have us believe.

The purpose of the MSM concentration on Pope Francis' more leftist type rhetoric is simple: keep those (ignorant) Catholic Democrats voting democrat even in the face of the pure evil being perpetrated on our society.

Quote from: zewazir on September 28, 2015, 07:08:58 PM
I state again, the Pope needs to stay out of politics. Sadly, I don't think my opinion will make much difference to what he does. But otherwise, in matters of the Church, I believe he is a good, loving leader.

What's making it difficult for religion to stay out of politics is the fact that
the politicians keep intruding into EVERY area of life!

"Separation of church and state" means only that church and state are separate institutions.
In past centuries, the Church ruled the state so much that
the Pope became a sort of "king of kings."
In recent decades, the state has been trying to deny
the church's right and duty to speak on moral principles.

"Freedom of speech" applies at least as much to the church as it does to individuals.

In past centuries, the Church directly ruled the state.
The American system is that the church says whatever it must in every area it must.
The voters then take into account all the information they have,
including from the church, and vote accordingly.

Many politicians like to tell the church to stay out of politics.
(Mostly because churches tend to preach against corruption.)
We need more people telling the politicians to stop trying to suppress religion.