http://www.globalresearch.ca/pardon-us-for-our-countrys-existence-in-the-middle-of-your-military-bases-russian-foreign-minister-lavrovs-speech-at-the-un/5407937
..."Let me recall a history of not so far ago.  As a condition for establishing diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union in 1933 the U.S. government demanded of Moscow the guarantees of non-interference into domestic affairs of the U.S. and obligations not to take any actions with a view to changing political or social order in America.  At that time Washington feared a revolutionary virus and the above guarantees were put on record on the basis of reciprocity.  Perhaps, it makes sense to return to this topic and reproduce that demand of the U.S. government on a universal scale.  Shouldn't the General Assembly adopt a declaration on the inadmissibility of interference into domestic affairs of sovereign states and non-recognition of coup d'etat as a method of the change of power?  The time has come to totally exclude from the international interaction the attempts of illegitimate pressure of some states on others...."

Okay. We pardon you.

Quote from: The Boo Man... on October 18, 2014, 10:49:39 PM
Okay. We pardon you.

Did he fart again?

Could he make a point if I gave him a pencil sharpener?

Quote from: SVPete on October 19, 2014, 11:31:33 AM
Could he make a point if I gave him a pencil sharpener?

So what you are sating is his posts are like a broken pencil....pointless.

Quote from: kalash on October 18, 2014, 09:05:42 PM
..."Let me recall a history of not so far ago.  As a condition for establishing diplomatic relations with the Soviet Union in 1933 the U.S. government demanded of Moscow the guarantees of non-interference into domestic affairs of the U.S. and obligations not to take any actions with a view to changing political or social order in America.  At that time Washington feared a revolutionary virus and the above guarantees were put on record on the basis of reciprocity.  Perhaps, it makes sense to return to this topic and reproduce that demand of the U.S. government on a universal scale.  Shouldn't the General Assembly adopt a declaration on the inadmissibility of interference into domestic affairs of sovereign states and non-recognition of coup d'etat as a method of the change of power?  The time has come to totally exclude from the international interaction the attempts of illegitimate pressure of some states on others...."

Here's Vladimir last Thursday:  " "...conditions have become more complicated, but, as I have already said, this stimulates us to concentrate our resources and choose the best solutions, to achieve our goals in the shortest possible time and to work more efficiently in all areas."

Which means our sanctions are working.  The ruble is devaluing, food-prices are increasing...  and Первый снег has arrived.   Good-luck against capitalist ideology this Winter.

Quote from: kit saginaw on October 19, 2014, 03:22:15 PM
   Good-luck against capitalist ideology this Winter.

Yes, winter willl scare the russians for sure...  Napoleon and Hitler would confirm that.

And what part of capitalist ideology you mean?
This:
".....give Capital 300 percent of profit, and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. If turbulence and strife will bring a profit, it will freely encourage both. Smuggling and the slave-trade have amply proved all that is here stated.""
Or that:
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."  ?

Quote from: kalash on October 21, 2014, 11:16:56 AM
Yes, winter willl scare the russians for sure...  Napoleon and Hitler would confirm that.

And what part of capitalist ideology you mean?
This:
".....give Capital 300 percent of profit, and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. If turbulence and strife will bring a profit, it will freely encourage both. Smuggling and the slave-trade have amply proved all that is here stated.""
Or that:
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."  ?

Russian winters wore hell out of Napoleon's troops and Hitler's armies, but they haven't taken much of a toll on Russians, according to the history books.

Quote from: kalash on October 21, 2014, 11:16:56 AM
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."  ?

By perpetually keeping millions of rope-makers working, in a competitive job-market laden with financial-incentives...thus creating an environment for innovation and improvement in rope-making.  Nurtured by a government that allows the rope-market to set its own price, intervening only to penalize artificial price-manipulation.

You can only hang us if we commit a military-blunder that you 'capitalize' on. 

Quote from: kalash on October 21, 2014, 11:16:56 AM
Yes, winter willl scare the russians for sure...  Napoleon and Hitler would confirm that.

And what part of capitalist ideology you mean?
This:
".....give Capital 300 percent of profit, and there is not a crime at which it will scruple, nor a risk it will not run, even to the chance of its owner being hanged. If turbulence and strife will bring a profit, it will freely encourage both. Smuggling and the slave-trade have amply proved all that is here stated.""
Or that:
"The Capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them."  ?

Pretty funny how Marx description of Capital is more descriptive of Russian and Chinese socialist state owned corporations and not western free market businesses. Socialism would be hilarious if it wasn't so horrible, no wait I take that back it is still hilarious

Quote from: kit saginaw on October 21, 2014, 09:21:46 PM
By perpetually keeping millions of rope-makers working, in a competitive job-market laden with financial-incentives...thus creating an environment for innovation and improvement in rope-making.  Nurtured by a government that allows the rope-market to set its own price, intervening only to penalize artificial price-manipulation.

You can only hang us if we commit a military-blunder that you 'capitalize' on.

That, and the fact that the rest of the free capitalist world moved beyond hemp, to superior products such as carbon fiber, yet the old Soviet system wants to keep aloft a dead industry that couldn't even give it's 3rd rate crap away.

It's the very reason the USSR collapsed under it's own outdated weight, no one wanted to buy second rate junk.
Yugo and Trevant are a good examples of junk disguised in an attractive package, sure they sold cars, as long as the state controlled the mkt in a bubble, but the 80s exposed failed socialism too the entire world, and yet we have gumballs like the idiot that started this thread that still think oppressing a mkt is progressive freedom?