So that why o b phasing out of the ban on gays serving.

I have no problmes with woman in combate, if that is there wish.
They have been there for some time. We just dont give them credit for it.

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WASHINGTON — Women should finally be allowed to serve fully in combat, a military advisory panel said Friday in a report seeking to dismantle the last major area of discrimination in the armed forces.

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I disagree, if a female were captured in battle?
The pressure on the men to react would not be the same if it were a man being held.

War is bad enough, we don't need to complicate it.

Would you want a 110 lb woman dragging a 200 lb male across the battle field?

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2011, 10:15:36 PM
I disagree, if a female were captured in battle?
The pressure on the men to react would not be the same if it were a man being held.

War is bad enough, we don't need to complicate it.

Would you want a 110 lb woman dragging a 200 lb male across the battle field?

I understand your point.  BUT if my wife can do it so can others if they wish.

The only moral reason to have an army in the context of the Christian Just War Tradition is to defend those who nurture, i.e. women, and those who are nurtured, i.e. children, from the attempts of an enemy to kill them, to rape them, to capture them or to bespoil their environment should that they die from starvation or disease.  A country which allows or encourages women to go into combat for the mere sake of the false goddess of equality is a morally bankrupt country.  In the created order, men are to be the defenders of home and hearth against the external enemy.  Women courageously gather to face and beat death in their war when they assist in and give birth.  There they fight death two fold: that the mother and the child may live.  In the absurdity of modernity, we have cast women into men's wars and men into women's wars.  Let us each fight the battles which we were designed to fight.

Quote from: Berggeist on January 15, 2011, 07:58:15 AM
The only moral reason to have an army in the context of the Christian Just War Tradition is to defend those who nurture, i.e. women, and those who are nurtured, i.e. children, from the attempts of an enemy to kill them, to rape them, to capture them or to bespoil their environment should that they die from starvation or disease.  A country which allows or encourages women to go into combat for the mere sake of the false goddess of equality is a morally bankrupt country.   In the created order, men are to be the defenders of home and hearth against the external enemy.  Women courageously gather to face and beat death in their war when they assist in and give birth.  There they fight death two fold: that the mother and the child may live.  In the absurdity of modernity, we have cast women into men's wars and men into women's wars.  Let us each fight the battles which we were designed to fight.

LOL I know I am in over my head but, just my way of thinking.   

Thank God all woman are not a like.  Just thinking there a baby machine and have no rights in a 'mans world'.   I for one will do every thing in my power in helping my wife do what ever she would like.   

Quote from: walkstall on January 15, 2011, 09:44:32 AM
LOL I know I am in over my head but, just my way of thinking.   

Thank God all woman are not a like.  Just thinking there a baby machine and have no rights in a 'mans world'.   I for one will do every thing in my power in helping my wife do what ever she would like.

No two humans are alike.  That is why the worship of the goddess of equality is so evil.  Men exist as men and women exist as women so that together they can have, nurture and protect babies who are the future.  Why else would we exist as male and female?  The universe, modernity's silly notions and ideologies notwithstanding, is based on subordination: a sun is a subordinate member of a galaxy; planets are subordinate members of a solar system; among bees and ants, there is systematic subordination; among all social animals, including man, right down to the smallest unit, there is subordination.  Subordination does not mean inferiority.  In the Christian understanding, a man is the head of the house; he is to be the head of the house as Christ is the head of the Church.  How did Christ show that he is the head of the Church?  He put on flesh, walked among fallen creation, and died for her.  He made himself the suffering servant.  Men are heads of a household in the same way.  Saying that the sacredness of the womb equals women being a "baby machine" is pure Marxist rhetoric.  As a man who calls himself a conservative, you should rid your rhetoric of its Marxist twang.  So is the mantra about it "being a man's world."  It is God's world, and the created order is organized according to His design.  We were not, men or women, created to be whatever we would like.  We were created to do our duty to God, to family, to Church and to community.

When they start building kitchens in the battlezone, then maybe...

The scam of "equality" is merely a stalking horse for more sinister motives.  The political elites who control both the Republican and Democratic parties and through them and the entrenched bureaucrats control the organs and mechanisms of the Hobbesian state do not at the time feel it to be politically advantageous to reinstate conscription; however, women, there likely being more of them than males of military age in the U.S. right now, are an almost inexhaustible pool of gun fodder.  If they can be enticed into the military, now combat arms,  with the mantra of equality and paid with the fiat (counterfeit) dollars which are depleting the wealth of all of us, then they can "be all they want to be," which is of course a lie since no one can just be what one wants to be, at least not without a price, and in combat women are likely to be killed, horribly wounded, captured, raped and tortured.  When a man - a father, a husband, a brother, a friend of a woman - wants her to "be all she can be in the context of the military, particularly combat arms, he is, despite the gloss of "equality" and good pay, wishing evil upon her.  Despite all of the talk about learning life skills, getting experience and having college paid for, the act of putting on a uniform is the act of putting on death.  It is the fundamental task of a good soldier to bring death to the enemy and to die in the process.  To show a soldier as anything else is to lie.

Quote from: Berggeist on January 15, 2011, 11:05:18 AM
The scam of "equality" is merely a stalking horse for more sinister motives.  The political elites who control both the Republican and Democratic parties and through them and the entrenched bureaucrats control the organs and mechanisms of the Hobbesian state do not at the time feel it to be politically advantageous to reinstate conscription; however, women, there likely being more of them than males of military age in the U.S. right now, are an almost inexhaustible pool of gun fodder.  If they can be enticed into the military, now combat arms,  with the mantra of equality and paid with the fiat (counterfeit) dollars which are depleting the wealth of all of us, then they can "be all they want to be," which is of course a lie since no one can just be what one wants to be, at least not without a price, and in combat women are likely to be killed, horribly wounded, captured, raped and tortured.  When a man - a father, a husband, a brother, a friend of a woman - wants her to "be all she can be in the context of the military, particularly combat arms, he is, despite the gloss of "equality" and good pay, wishing evil upon her.  Despite all of the talk about learning life skills, getting experience and having college paid for, the act of putting on a uniform is the act of putting on death.  It is the fundamental task of a good soldier to bring death to the enemy and to die in the process.  To show a soldier as anything else is to lie.

Amen.

As the Captain said one early morning in Vietnam, "Boys....our business is killing...and business is good."

Let me be a chauvinist for a moment.
Women are not the physical equal of men and have absolutely no business fighting.

If we as a society, allow our women to enter the front-line as the first-line in battle, we will have succumb to the fate forced upon us by the socialist PC movement that has been hell bent on destroying our culture.

Men and women have a place in life, and these stations should never cross, or you can say goodbye to the Male of our species.

Quote from: Solar on January 15, 2011, 04:03:36 PM
Let me be a chauvinist for a moment.
Women are not the physical equal of men and have absolutely no business fighting.

If we as a society, allow our women to enter the front-line as the first-line in battle, we will have succumb to the fate forced upon us by the socialist PC movement that has been hell bent on destroying our culture.

Men and women have a place in life, and these stations should never cross, or you can say goodbye to the Male of our species.

I have a female soldier friend I have known for a while, and even after all her training, when we wrestle around, I dominate her and could have my way with her, no problem.  There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but over all, woman just aren't strong enough.  A weak skinny guy can overpower a woman most of the time.

Women demand equality, let them fight like we had to.


Billy

Quote from: taxed on January 15, 2011, 04:10:25 PM
I have a female soldier friend I have known for a while, and even after all her training, when we wrestle around, I dominate her and could have my way with her, no problem.  There are exceptions to the rule, of course, but over all, woman just aren't strong enough.  A weak skinny guy can overpower a woman most of the time.

Like I said I am in over my head.  LOL
So much for Capitalism, as Woman have there place.  Making babys and In the Kitchen.   

Quote from: walkstall on January 15, 2011, 04:34:19 PM


Like I said I am in over my head.  LOL
So much for Capitalism, as Woman have there place.  Making babys and In the Kitchen.

...and keeping the house clean.

Quote from: BILLY-bONNEY on January 15, 2011, 04:11:42 PM
Women demand equality, let them fight like we had to.


Billy

I get your point, but not all women demand it, some still like being females, instead of a hybrid version of man.

I just don't want to see conscription of women during times of war, not all can handle it physically or emotionally.
They were not bred for it, they are the nurturers of man, thats just the way it is an always will be, whether they like it or not.