On the gay issue which divides our party

Started by Skeptic, December 02, 2012, 04:02:10 PM

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kramarat

Quote from: Paladin on December 15, 2012, 05:32:00 PM
Do you know how to read, and understand what you read? I never implied anyone who is gay likes to molest children. I thought it was silly your comment about you not wanting your daughter being left alone with a certain type of person- which made it appear that you believe someone who is gay molest children- which is what I called you out on-as there are already many on the right who believe such rubbish. You then cleared it up, but it was still a ridiculous and irrelevant thing, because its common sense that anyone would want whoever is around their children to have a clean past... So you're only confusing yourself with this issue, move off of it.

You're missing the point, because you're more stuck on talking about the agenda of the left... I as well as many others in here, already know the agenda of the left- and we don't like it. At the same time we also see the mistakes the right are making, which is hurting the Republican party, and conservatism.

Also the only people fighting to change the definition of marriage are gay left-wing activist, and heterosexual left-wing activist. They don't fight for this change, because they care about civil liberties- only the destruction of all that is noble about this country. Conservative gays hate gay culture, and left-wing ideology. Conservative gay activist fight against left-wing gay activist...  But they don't get the help and support from their party- like the Democrats give to the left-wing activist.

In England, gays have civil unions- here in America in some states gays can have civil unions... All well and good.. Unfortunately we have members within the Republican party, who do not support civil unions, and would not acknowledge the union, therefore do not feel either partner in the union is entitled to the benefits of their partner. If I were married and died, my wife would get my benefits from my job. If I were gay and in a civil union or gay marriage- politicians like Rick Santorum don't feel my partner should get my benefits. This is what I'm talking about, this is what's hurting the Republican party.

The new and younger Republicans/Conservatives, while they may not agree with changing the definition of marriage, fully support civil unions, and the partner being entitled for benefits. They don't fall in line with the more rigid views of the dinosaurs trapped in Nixion's 1950's conservatism.

Ron Paul got a load of support from young people, a hell of a lot. Even more support from the military over the other candidates combined. Because Ron Paul is more in line with how the founding fathers viewed this country, with civil liberties and personal rights/freedoms. This is a largely growing group in America, especially among the young- all of which are not only fed up with Democrat's inflation of gov, but also the stupidity of the outdated right. In other words if the Republican party doesn't clean these fools out, its dead. It worked fine in the 50's, 60's, 70's, and even 80's. Today it doesn't stand, as society has changed. There are many people who have gay friends, or family members, who behave nothing like many on the right ignorantly think, and so get offended when they hear the stupidity of the right.

I never implied nor believe (since I don't know you), that you are intolerant, or hateful. I've stated many times already I do not agree with changing the definition of marriage, and I just don't believe in gay marriage, and that there were gays who feel the same damn way.

You're all for civil unions, great awesome, me too.. Now lets tell that to the many members of the Republican party who are not, and in the process turning many away. Conservative gays aren't trying to push anything. All they do is live their life, mind their business, don't wear their sexuality on their sleeve, and expect to be left alone, and respected.

You many not care to see the country be a Christian theocracy, but there are many on the religious right- who'd love that; and this is also hurting the party.


LOL A lot of you guys in here are not grasping simple concepts; and its no wonder why the left are so able to make people on the right look bad.

You are having a conversation with someone other than me. Maybe it's with yourself, or some phantom homophobe..........I don't know. Either way, I told you I was pretty tolerant. Time's up for you, loser. Later.

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Quote from: Solar on December 15, 2012, 06:14:44 AM
Do those you meet in public brook your verbose lectures, or do they, as most are beginning to do here, simply ignore you?
Do us all a favor and post crib notes.
Seriously, figure out a way to be more concise when replying.

Apparently, that famous Shakespearean quote is unknown to him...

My liege, and madam, to expostulate
What majesty should be, what duty is,
What day is day, night night, and time is time,
Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time;
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief. Your noble son is mad.


Hamlet, Act II, Scene 2

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It's a real shame this Paladin guy didn't stick around.
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Fascinating thread.  I agree with Skeptic's initial post.
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Sick Of Silence

Quote from: kramarat on December 14, 2012, 02:28:11 AMI should have said "open" homosexuality. I was okay with don't ask, don't tell.

Quote from: redlom xof on December 14, 2012, 02:29:32 AMWhy should people be forced to hide a part of their life just because some childish moron doesn't like gays ?

Imagine if don't ask, don't tell was around for religion. You couldn't display your religion or even mention it and I couldn't ask you about it either. All because I didn't like Christianity.

Why should people be forced to accept someone else's proclamation whether they like it or not? There is a difference between acceptance and tolerance. Acceptance is I 100% support your lifestyle. Tolerance is I don't necessarily support your lifestyle, but you live your life and I life my life. But, that's not what's happening. It's being forced on us. It's you will submit or else.

People have gotten brainwashed about putting theirs or others business out in public. It is not by business if you are gay. That is their problem. I have my own problems to care about yours.

I have seen people like Mayim Bialik have a Jewish star necklace on. Is she forcing her religion on people? As many Ben Shapiro video clips I have seen, I have never seen him push Judaism to his audience. What about his funny cap?

Do you have any proof of Christian, Methodist, Catholic, or Protestant religions being mass forced on everybody at once? Wasn't that long ago where every TV channel was virtual signalling with a rainbow flag in the corner of the screen. You couldn't just watch TV without that being forced on you.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

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Quote from: Sick Of Silence on August 26, 2022, 10:07:51 AMWhy should people be forced to accept someone else's proclamation whether they like it or not? There is a difference between acceptance and tolerance. Acceptance is I 100% support your lifestyle. Tolerance is I don't necessarily support your lifestyle, but you live your life and I life my life. But, that's not what's happening. It's being forced on us. It's you will submit or else.

People have gotten brainwashed about putting theirs or others business out in public. It is not by business if you are gay. That is their problem. I have my own problems to care about yours.

I have seen people like Mayim Bialik have a Jewish star necklace on. Is she forcing her religion on people? As many Ben Shapiro video clips I have seen, I have never seen him push Judaism to his audience. What about his funny cap?

Do you have any proof of Christian, Methodist, Catholic, or Protestant religions being mass forced on everybody at once? Wasn't that long ago where every TV channel was virtual signalling with a rainbow flag in the corner of the screen. You couldn't just watch TV without that being forced on you.

Look at the post dates.
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Sick Of Silence

Them other two bumped a decade old thread up. We know that some of those people don't post here anymore. So, I don't expect a direct response. It was something that has to be said.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.