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Title: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 28, 2013, 07:58:53 PM
The Ohio Accountability Project....returning Weepy to his homeland, before he forgets since he forgot whose side he's on....

QuoteWe're a new, grassroots organization in OH Congressional District 8. We're made up of local citizens who are seeking to hold our elected representative accountable for his actions–or inactions–in Washington DC. Speaker Boehner has been in Washington DC for too long, and while he may have entered with great intentions, he's become someone who no longer represents us and our needs. Unfortunately, he has become part of a system that seeks to ensure self-preservation.

As a group, we decided to come together because we've had enough of Speaker Boehner as our representative. We decided that it was time for us to have a voice, to seek real representation–and that's exactly what we're going to do. We welcome all people who share this sentiment. We're working to unite his district to reclaim our voices that have been lost during Boehner's tenure in DC.

Please be sure to add your name to the growing list of people who want to replace Speaker Boehner with an elected official who better represents our voices and needs.  If you wish to join us on the ground, be sure to let us know!

http://www.ohioaccountabilityproject.org/ (http://www.ohioaccountabilityproject.org/)
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2013, 08:19:59 PM
It's a good start and I wish them luck, but he really needs to put up more info on the sit.
Just getting rid of Boner is a given, but are these people libs, Libertarians, or what have you, and what kind of candidate are they looking for?
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: daidalos on July 28, 2013, 08:20:42 PM
I looked at the "about us" these libs or what?

That said I'm all for replacing Boehner, with a truly conservative elected representative.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: walkstall on July 28, 2013, 08:33:41 PM
The site shows Jun 3, 2013 and I see no update.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: PeterR on July 28, 2013, 09:16:51 PM

More power to them.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 28, 2013, 09:25:50 PM
Is there anyone from Ohio who can justify voting again for this surrender artist? Is there nobody in the Buckeye State with an actual spine, to run against and beat this RINO clown?

Hayzeus Christie, the Republicans, they thirst for death.....
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 28, 2013, 09:30:00 PM
Quote from: quiller on July 28, 2013, 09:25:50 PM
Is there anyone from Ohio who can justify voting again for this surrender artist? Is there nobody in the Buckeye State with an actual spine, to run against and beat this RINO clown?

Hayzeus Christie, the Republicans, they thirst for death.....
At this point, a dog could beat him, but seriously, I haven't heard of any names being bandied about.
If they can find a good Tea/Conservative, they'd be a shoe-in to win.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 28, 2013, 09:44:43 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 28, 2013, 09:30:00 PM
At this point, a dog could beat him, but seriously, I haven't heard of any names being bandied about.
If they can find a good Tea/Conservative, they'd be a shoe-in to win.

Not an open TP candidate. The media and the unions would turn it into more of a circus than you'd expect in the heavy population areas where Dems get their most brain-deads. They're the same ones who looked the other way after Ohio stooges for Obama went snooping in Joe the Plumber's tax files.

What I'm not hearing is the Ohio GOP at all. I admit part of my lack of knowledge is that I don't read much from there aside from the Toledo Blade, a wholly-owned DNC broadsheet.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 28, 2013, 10:18:57 PM
In a story on Mitt Romney's disastrous campaign decisions, this surfaced which I think sums up today's GOP pretty well...and Weepy in particular.....

QuoteActually, what the Republican campaign did was worse than nothing. Mitt and his campaign agreed with Obama publicly on his handling of the automaker bailouts. Romney knows better, with his deep background in business in general, and Detroit auto making specifically. Moreover, Paul Ryan, who also knows better, agreed with Joe Biden on national TV in the VP debate that poor ole Joe and Obama had "inherited" a mess from Bush and the Republicans. Ryan even let Joe "Bite Me" get away with taking credit for saving Detroit! Check the videotape in case you've forgotten.

Yes, in typical establishment fashion, the official GOP campaign shied away from the big and confrontational philosophical arguments about liberal versus conservative economic realities -- and instead ran to smooch up to the voters of Michigan in a careful and focus-group-tested way so as not to offend. In other words, in an absurd attempt to try and save Michigan electorally, and to make soccer moms in southern Ohio comfy, a strong message that would have resonated across the other 49 states was jettisoned in favor of "don't rock the boat" messaging.

Talk show hosts, internet and cable commentators, and many Tea Party figures have been warning the GOP establishment about this for decades too. Thus, the missed Detroit opportunity in the 2012 campaign is likewise a gigantic "we told you so" moment, and even a casual perusal of the elections of 2010, 2002, 1994, 1984 and 1980 proves it. Again, reaping and sowing comes to mind. ( . . . )

No, the Republicans seem determined to let this crisis go to waste. John McCain is out muttering about how wonderful Obama's inflammatory and infantile race speech was. That is, when he's not telling a private institution known as the NFL how they should televise their product. (Even the Detroit Lions, I suppose.) Mitch McConnell is trashing his primary opponent's business career while going squishy on defunding ObamaCare.  Meanwhile, in the House, John Boehner is going for full-blown eunuch status for his speakership, pretending that things just happen in the House and he has no control over them. Of course, all the while, they are joining the likes of Peter King and Lindsey Graham and Eric Cantor in crafting some kind of disastrous immigration bill that will attract the likes of Chuck Schumer and Maxine Waters. For some reason, they think this is the pressing issue of our day, and that they have the solution. They are wrong on both counts. And Bob Dole, whose Viagra is apparently not helping fire the synapses of his brain, is urging that process along from retirement.


http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/07/schadenfreude_michigan_and_mitts_big_fumble.html (http://www.americanthinker.com/2013/07/schadenfreude_michigan_and_mitts_big_fumble.html)

Romney agreeing with Obama on the time of day was his first mistake. Retaining Boehner would be Ohio's.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2013, 06:18:35 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 28, 2013, 09:44:43 PM
Not an open TP candidate. The media and the unions would turn it into more of a circus than you'd expect in the heavy population areas where Dems get their most brain-deads. They're the same ones who looked the other way after Ohio stooges for Obama went snooping in Joe the Plumber's tax files.

What I'm not hearing is the Ohio GOP at all. I admit part of my lack of knowledge is that I don't read much from there aside from the Toledo Blade, a wholly-owned DNC broadsheet.
You aren't seriously suggesting that no one run under the Tea banner out of fear of how they'll be attacked relentlessly by the opposition, are you? :biggrin:
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 06:38:47 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2013, 06:18:35 AM
You aren't seriously suggesting that no one run under the Tea banner out of fear of how they'll be attacked relentlessly by the opposition, are you? :biggrin:

Ah, you scamp.

Establishment GOP will be treated as normal by the rabid media still smarting after the O-House and O-Senate went to the GOP. The Tea Party will be covered as village-burning crazies.....

...in other words, the Establishment candidate will win if the GOP wins a slot at all.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2013, 06:47:27 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 06:38:47 AM


...in other words, the Establishment candidate will win if the GOP wins a slot at all.
Explain.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 06:51:13 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2013, 06:47:27 AM
Explain.

Because to the rabid left, the Establishment candidate is not a village-burning kook out to destroy all tax-and-spend life as they know it. The TP candidate will become the next Jeffrey Dahmer by the time they're done.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2013, 07:07:23 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 06:51:13 AM
Because to the rabid left, the Establishment candidate is not a village-burning kook out to destroy all tax-and-spend life as they know it. The TP candidate will become the next Jeffrey Dahmer by the time they're done.
Absolutely have to disagree, granted the MSM, Dims and RINO alike will attack the Tea candidate in full force, but..... to a Conservative, that is even more reason to not only stand our ground, but force the enemy to relinquish theirs.

The Tea party has one message, and one message alone, smaller Govt, lower taxes which translates into more freedoms, it's pretty hard to bastardize a proponent of freedom.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Yawn on July 29, 2013, 07:18:36 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 06:51:13 AM
Because to the rabid left, the Establishment candidate is not a village-burning kook out to destroy all tax-and-spend life as they know it. The TP candidate will become the next Jeffrey Dahmer by the time they're done.

So you just want a different establishment rino. The rinos appreciate your support.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: daidalos on July 29, 2013, 07:47:15 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 28, 2013, 09:25:50 PM
Is there anyone from Ohio who can justify voting again for this surrender artist? Is there nobody in the Buckeye State with an actual spine, to run against and beat this RINO clown?

Hayzeus Christie, the Republicans, they thirst for death.....

Quiller I would, if I had the means to do so...but hell I'm a poor vet who lives off disability I couldn't afford to run an ad in the local opinions page of the paper let alone t.v. spots etc... :thumbsup:

I couldn't handle the stress (physically) of the job either frankly to be honest.

But damn if I won't support any true conservative who does.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:53:32 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2013, 07:07:23 AM
Absolutely have to disagree, granted the MSM, Dims and RINO alike will attack the Tea candidate in full force, but..... to a Conservative, that is even more reason to not only stand our ground, but force the enemy to relinquish theirs.

The Tea party has one message, and one message alone, smaller Govt, lower taxes which translates into more freedoms, it's pretty hard to bastardize a proponent of freedom.

The "lo-fo" (low information voter) will be taking cues from the relentless drumroll against those wild-'n'-crazy TP folk, as opposed to the merely-stodgy-but-sane GOP stalwarts. They will be herded into the "safe GOP" vote if they do vote against the 'Rats.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2013, 07:55:14 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:53:32 AM
The "lo-fo" (low information voter) will be taking cues from the relentless drumroll against those wild-'n'-crazy TP folk, as opposed to the merely-stodgy-but-sane GOP stalwarts. They will be herded into the "safe GOP" vote if they do vote against the 'Rats.
Not during the Mid Terms, historically Conservatives command turnout.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:56:46 AM
Quote from: Yawn on July 29, 2013, 07:18:36 AM
So you just want a different establishment rino. The rinos appreciate your support.

No, I want Machine Gun Kelly, Atilla the Hun and the combined force of the entire Mongol Horde to drive the Demo-trash not only from our legislature but from our very shores. If anything, the TP is too moderate for my tastes. The Establishment GOP is now more Dem than anything else. Look at that scumbag McLame.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jul/29/does-sen-john-mccain-hate-republicans/ (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jul/29/does-sen-john-mccain-hate-republicans/)
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 08:04:56 AM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2013, 07:55:14 AM
Not during the Mid Terms, historically Conservatives command turnout.

Historically true. That's where I hope you're right, but my complete lack of faith in the media whores is definitely affecting my outlook.

Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: mdgiles on July 29, 2013, 08:28:48 AM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:56:46 AM
No, I want Machine Gun Kelly, Atilla the Hun and the combined force of the entire Mongol Horde to drive the Demo-trash not only from our legislature but from our very shores. If anything, the TP is too moderate for my tastes. The Establishment GOP is now more Dem than anything else. Look at that scumbag McLame.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jul/29/does-sen-john-mccain-hate-republicans/ (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jul/29/does-sen-john-mccain-hate-republicans/)
The establishment Republicans all suffer from self esteem issues. They are desperate to get "good press". Conservatives and TP Republicans know they can't get the approval of the MSM, so they don't bother.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 08:49:22 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on July 29, 2013, 08:28:48 AM
The establishment Republicans all suffer from self esteem issues. They are desperate to get "good press". Conservatives and TP Republicans know they can't get the approval of the MSM, so they don't bother.

Without media approval makes you a Lyndon La Rouche or any other wild-eyed kook in the eyes of the independents who don't care which party gets it, as long as it isn't someone like that. They are the suckers on the carnival causeway, drawn in by the noise and the hype. They subliminally count up all the media negatives, just before marking their ballot.

You may have noticed, our media is really good at trying to shape public opinion. Too bad it's not for America but usually somewhere else. If we only did it like the UN, maybe. And just because it's failed everywhere else, we need to try it here and of course we'll be guaranteed by law to get it right...right?

What I noticed over the years was that it became fairly easy to see which candidate the media REALLY wanted...and which candidate they really wanted to OPPOSE (and therefore lose to) him. McLame (and Dole) became their darling, based on that thinking (and their sales work).
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: AndyJackson on July 29, 2013, 09:18:46 AM
They like to pick the GOP candidate for us, so they get the one most likely to lose, as well as the most liberal candidate in case something goes haywire and they actually win.

This time they'll probably pull out all the stops for Christie and Rubio.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 09:25:11 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on July 29, 2013, 09:18:46 AM
They like to pick the GOP candidate for us, so they get the one most likely to lose, as well as the most liberal candidate in case something goes haywire and they actually win.

This time they'll probably pull out all the stops for Christie and Rubio.

Agreed on Corpus, but I'm not sure whether Rubio entirely applies to this triple-reverse thinking we're attempting here. Lay it on me. See if it fits.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Yawn on July 29, 2013, 12:34:03 PM
If anybody wonders, this is a group of conservatives, not liberals trying to take advantage of a weak candidate.
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:56:46 AM
No, I want Machine Gun Kelly, Atilla the Hun and the combined force of the entire Mongol Horde to drive the Demo-trash not only from our legislature but from our very shores. If anything, the TP is too moderate for my tastes. The Establishment GOP is now more Dem than anything else. Look at that scumbag McLame.

http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jul/29/does-sen-john-mccain-hate-republicans/ (http://communities.washingtontimes.com/neighborhood/ad-lib/2013/jul/29/does-sen-john-mccain-hate-republicans/)
So you don't consider Ted Cruz, the epitome of what the Tea movement stands for?
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:35:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on July 29, 2013, 01:00:58 PM
So you don't consider Ted Cruz, the epitome of what the Tea movement stands for?
Which Tea Party? Seriously. As I understand it no one group speaks for all others, and there are certain differences between the various schisms. I'm not a TP member and don't know anyone who is, in my area.

Financial is not the whole enchilada here. It's still way too early to pin any hopes on any one (or more) candidate(s).
Title: Re: Ohio gears up to retire Boehner
Post by: Solar on July 29, 2013, 09:15:15 PM
Quote from: quiller on July 29, 2013, 07:35:14 PM
Which Tea Party? Seriously. As I understand it no one group speaks for all others, and there are certain differences between the various schisms. I'm not a TP member and don't know anyone who is, in my area.

Financial is not the whole enchilada here. It's still way too early to pin any hopes on any one (or more) candidate(s).
Tea movement is an ideal, one of returning to the principles of the Founders, it really is that simple, and Cruz gets it.
There are factions out there trying like Hell to bastardize the message, but there is no gray area when addressing Right and wrong.