WASHINGTON (AP) -- It's an older, costlier crowd that's signing up so far for health insurance under President Barack Obama's law, according to government figures released Monday. Enrollments are lower for the healthy, younger Americans who will be needed to keep premiums from rising.

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Interesting... But does anyone know what percentage 2 million is of 300 million is?
Yeah, O'Commicare is really paying for itself.

QuoteYoung adults from 18 to 34 are only 24 percent of total enrollment, the administration said in its first signup figures broken down for age, gender and other details. With the HealthCare.gov website now working, the figures cover the more than 2 million Americans who had signed up for government-subsidized private insurance through the end of December in new federal and state markets.

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2014, 07:23:40 AM
Interesting... But does anyone know what percentage 2 million is of 300 million is?

I work for the Obama Administration. What percentage would you like it to be? It will be so.

Quote from: Solar on January 14, 2014, 07:23:40 AM
Interesting... But does anyone know what percentage 2 million is of 300 million is?
Yeah, O'Commicare is really paying for itself.

You're just not getting it. The 2 million who "signed up" (actually, some smaller portion of these people actually bought insurance) are the glorious result of KenyaCare, and will more than make up for the 4.7 million (in the federal exchanges alone as of 12/31/2013, according to Heritage.org) who have had their existing coverage modified or canceled so far, again the glorious result of KenyaCare.

How can you not see the light? Sheesh.

Quote from: actionblock on January 14, 2014, 07:29:33 AM
I work for the Obama Administration. What percentage would you like it to be? It will be so.

Quote from: TboneAgain on January 14, 2014, 08:02:06 AM
You're just not getting it. The 2 million who "signed up" (actually, some smaller portion of these people actually bought insurance) are the glorious result of KenyaCare, and will more than make up for the 4.7 million (in the federal exchanges alone as of 12/31/2013, according to Heritage.org) who have had their existing coverage modified or canceled so far, again the glorious result of KenyaCare.

How can you not see the light? Sheesh.

Oh, I see, in liberal math, those that signed up for commiecare, are old, or indigent, and won't be paying into the system, so to a liberal, even though it's insolvent, it's all about numbers, in other words, if 100 million poor people sign up, it's a success?
Using their logic, I could sell a product that cost me 10 times what it costs to make, but because I sell out my entire inventory every week at a total loss, I'm a success.

More than 9 million people have now gained coverage under the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, administration officials estimate.

In addition to the private insurance plans, nearly 4 million people have qualified for the Medicaid program for the poor, while 3 million people in their early 20s are now allowed to remain on their parents' plans.


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Almost 1/2 of the enrolments went to Medicare and the public dime!! The younger people are not signing up and the Whole medical system is collapsing!! What a great president we have!!

Quote from: actionblock on January 14, 2014, 07:18:58 AM
WASHINGTON (AP) -- It's an older, costlier crowd that's signing up so far for health insurance under President Barack Obama's law, according to government figures released Monday. Enrollments are lower for the healthy, younger Americans who will be needed to keep premiums from rising.

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What! Why didn't someone see this coming! Why didn't someone warn us! 

I have been watching this fiasco unfold and now we are at a critical stage. The idea of bailing out the insurance companies is being discussed and the expected outrage is occurring. Here is one person who says the bailout is absolutely necessary if we are going to avoid the trap of falling into a single payer system. As mentioned earlier, the companies are in trouble because of adverse selection with older, sicker people choosing to be insured. So why do I say that and what can be done?

First we must stabilize the marketplace and the bailout is necessary to do that to keep the private carriers in the game. Then, the law must be changed to allow companies to introduce products that exclude pre-existing conditions and remove the mandates of coverage. The companies also, must be able to price the products to cover the exposure without excess subsidies. By doing this the marketplace takes over and people are free to choose the product of their choice.

Obviously this is a simplistic explanation, but it hits all the important points.

Quote from: supsalemgr on January 15, 2014, 05:20:34 AM
I have been watching this fiasco unfold and now we are at a critical stage. The idea of bailing out the insurance companies is being discussed and the expected outrage is occurring. Here is one person who says the bailout is absolutely necessary if we are going to avoid the trap of falling into a single payer system. As mentioned earlier, the companies are in trouble because of adverse selection with older, sicker people choosing to be insured. So why do I say that and what can be done?

First we must stabilize the marketplace and the bailout is necessary to do that to keep the private carriers in the game. Then, the law must be changed to allow companies to introduce products that exclude pre-existing conditions and remove the mandates of coverage. The companies also, must be able to price the products to cover the exposure without excess subsidies. By doing this the marketplace takes over and people are free to choose the product of their choice.

Obviously this is a simplistic explanation, but it hits all the important points.

Yes, let the marketplace take over. Scrap Obamacare except for keeping the pre-existing conditions and under 26 year old mandate. Protect the people who signed up for the scrapped Obamacare by subsidizing them for a period of time. Will be quite a mess for awhile and probably cost billions, but cheaper in the long run than letting Obamacare lurch forward.

Not a penny for the insurance companies. They saw Obamacare as a windfall profit opportunity. A bad business decision for which they and their shareholders will have to pay the piper. Some weak companies may fail but the financially stronger companies will pick them up at a discount. Yes, let the marketplace take over but not at taxpayer expense.

With the Government out of the way the free enterprise system will right the ship in no time at all. Well, that fixes that problem. Somebody else can work out the details.

Quote from: actionblock on January 15, 2014, 07:44:10 AM
Yes, let the marketplace take over. Scrap Obamacare except for keeping the pre-existing conditions and under 26 year old mandate. Protect the people who signed up for the scrapped Obamacare by subsidizing them for a period of time. Will be quite a mess for awhile and probably cost billions, but cheaper in the long run than letting Obamacare lurch forward.

Not a penny for the insurance companies. They saw Obamacare as a windfall profit opportunity. A bad business decision for which they and their shareholders will have to pay the piper. Some weak companies may fail but the financially stronger companies will pick them up at a discount. Yes, let the marketplace take over but not at taxpayer expense.

With the Government out of the way the free enterprise system will right the ship in no time at all. Well, that fixes that problem. Somebody else can work out the details.

So at what age does a kids become a responsible adult.
18 can join the service.
18 can run up debts
18 can get married
21 can drink beer
21 can own a car

Why stop at 26?  Hell why not 65 when they can go on SS.   

Quote from: walkstall on January 15, 2014, 08:05:00 AM
So at what age does a kids become a responsible adult.
18 can join the service.
18 can run up debts
18 can get married
21 can drink beer
21 can own a car

Why stop at 26?  Hell why not 65 when they can go on SS.   

Feeling mellow today so thought I'd go with the current 26 mandate.
We could phase it out slowly. Say, each year drop 1 year until be get
to 21 or 18. Plus, it always nice to concede something to the enemy so they
think they got a win-win. We gotta compromise, the public wants that.
th

Quote from: walkstall on January 15, 2014, 08:05:00 AM
So at what age does a kids become a responsible adult.
18 can join the service.
18 can run up debts
18 can get married
21 can drink beer
21 can own a car

Why stop at 26?  Hell why not 65 when they can go on SS.   

I think Dems are starting to regret that 26-number.   Last month's weak 'push' to abolish private-sector internships gave clue...  I don't buy the 'graduate school' explanation for 26.  -From Feb. 2012:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/24/education/census-finds-bachelors-degrees-at-record-level.html?_r=1&

As of last March, 30.4 percent of people over age 25 in the United States held at least a bachelor's degree, and 10.9 percent held a graduate degree, up from 26.2 percent and 8.7 percent 10 years earlier.

People don't want compromise. They want their healthcare back.

Quote from: actionblock on January 15, 2014, 08:41:22 AM
Feeling mellow today so thought I'd go with the current 26 mandate.
We could phase it out slowly. Say, each year drop 1 year until be get
to 21 or 18. Plus, it always nice to concede something to the enemy so they
think they got a win-win. We gotta compromise, the public wants that.
th

I been hearing this for over 65 years and look what it has gotten us.