"If you like your country, you can keep your country.  Period."

Uh oh. 

Obama promised Medvedev his help two years ago.

But he still needs the thrill (and giggles) of a good taqquiyah, alinsky, marx....lying-smokescreen exercise, while he's helping them back to their USSR glory.

Quote from: AndyJackson on March 09, 2014, 10:51:53 AM
Obama promised Medvedev his help two years ago.

But he still needs the thrill (and giggles) of a good taqquiyah, alinsky, marx....lying-smokescreen exercise, while he's helping them back to their USSR glory.

Absolutely.  Taqquiyah every time he opens his mouth.

Now, with the latest takeovers, Odiaper is basically telling Ukraine:  " If you like your country, let them take part of your country... so you can like your part even more. "

Yep.  Nothing like 'separatists' commandeering Ukrainian tanks, then sticking Russian-flags on 'em.  Who exactly does our Administration think they're separating from? 

http://pjmedia.com/richardfernandez/2014/04/16/complete-fiasco/#more-36095

Quote from: kit saginaw on April 17, 2014, 09:21:45 AM
Yep.  Nothing like 'separatists' commandeering Ukrainian tanks, then sticking Russian-flags on 'em.  Who exactly does our Administration think they're separating from? 

They are separating from illegitimate regime in Kiev, that came to power by force of neo-nazi terror groups. And you are were thinking, that people in the South-West of Ukraine just have nothing better to

Kerry's statement on Ukraine: A lying brief for war
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/04/26/kerr-a26.html

"....Kerry based his argument Thursday, that the unelected regime in Kiev is the victim of a malevolent Russian plot, on the tactic of the Big Lie—calculating that the bigger the lies, the harder they are to refute. He said: "From day one, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk has kept his word. He immediately agreed to help vacate buildings. He suspended Ukraine's counterterrorism initiative over Easter, choosing de-escalation, despite Ukraine's legitimate, fundamental right to defend its own territory and its own people."

Kerry's presentation of Yatsenyuk and his Western backers as defenders of Ukraine's sovereignty is a repugnant falsification. The Yatsenyuk regime was installed in an imperialist regime-change operation, orchestrated and financed by Washington and Berlin, culminating in the February 22 putsch led by the anti-Russian Ukrainian fascists of the Right Sector militia and the Svoboda party.

The putsch disenfranchised eastern Ukraine, the power base of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych and home to Ukraine's main industrial base and ethnic Russian population. One of the Yatsenyuk regime's first actions was to threaten to eliminate the status of Russian as an official language. A few weeks after the putsch, a leak emerged of a phone call between Kiev regime security officials and oligarch Yulia Tymoshenko, the leader of Yatsenyuk's Fatherland Party, in which Tymoshenko called for killing Ukraine's 8 million Russians with "nuclear weapons."

Amid rising popular opposition and pro-Russian protests in the east, Yatsenyuk earlier this month ordered the Ukrainian army to mount a "counterterrorism offensive" to drown the protests in blood. This crackdown fell apart when large sections of the army refused to fire and went over to the protesters.

Such was the background to the political fraud of the Geneva talks, where Yatsenyuk and his Western backers eagerly agreed to "suspend" the failing crackdown and "help vacate" buildings occupied by pro-Russian protesters. For the Western powers, however, the Geneva talks were simply a delaying tactic to prepare the next crackdown, which began this week, relying directly on Ukrainian fascist militias. Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh and business oligarch Igor Kolomoysky are now setting up their own battalions in the east, coordinated with officials in Kiev....."

http://www.lewrockwell.com/2014/04/paul-craig-roberts/moving-closer-to-war/

"The Obama regime, wallowing in hubris and arrogance, has recklessly escalated the Ukrainian crisis into a crisis with Russia. Whether intentionally or stupidly, Washington's propagandistic lies are driving the crisis to war. Unwilling to listen to any more of Washington's senseless threats, Moscow no longer accepts telephone calls from Obama and US top officials....."

Quote from: kalash on April 28, 2014, 12:11:46 PM
They are separating from illegitimate regime in Kiev, that came to power by force of neo-nazi terror groups. And you are were thinking, that people in the South-West of Ukraine just have nothing better to

Kerry's statement on Ukraine: A lying brief for war
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/04/26/kerr-a26.html

"....Kerry based his argument Thursday, that the unelected regime in Kiev is the victim of a malevolent Russian plot, on the tactic of the Big Lie—calculating that the bigger the lies, the harder they are to refute. He said: "From day one, Prime Minister Yatsenyuk has kept his word. He immediately agreed to help vacate buildings. He suspended Ukraine's counterterrorism initiative over Easter, choosing de-escalation, despite Ukraine's legitimate, fundamental right to defend its own territory and its own people."

Kerry's presentation of Yatsenyuk and his Western backers as defenders of Ukraine's sovereignty is a repugnant falsification. The Yatsenyuk regime was installed in an imperialist regime-change operation, orchestrated and financed by Washington and Berlin, culminating in the February 22 putsch led by the anti-Russian Ukrainian fascists of the Right Sector militia and the Svoboda party.

The putsch disenfranchised eastern Ukraine, the power base of pro-Russian President Viktor Yanukovych and home to Ukraine's main industrial base and ethnic Russian population. One of the Yatsenyuk regime's first actions was to threaten to eliminate the status of Russian as an official language. A few weeks after the putsch, a leak emerged of a phone call between Kiev regime security officials and oligarch Yulia Tymoshenko, the leader of Yatsenyuk's Fatherland Party, in which Tymoshenko called for killing Ukraine's 8 million Russians with "nuclear weapons."

Amid rising popular opposition and pro-Russian protests in the east, Yatsenyuk earlier this month ordered the Ukrainian army to mount a "counterterrorism offensive" to drown the protests in blood. This crackdown fell apart when large sections of the army refused to fire and went over to the protesters.

Such was the background to the political fraud of the Geneva talks, where Yatsenyuk and his Western backers eagerly agreed to "suspend" the failing crackdown and "help vacate" buildings occupied by pro-Russian protesters. For the Western powers, however, the Geneva talks were simply a delaying tactic to prepare the next crackdown, which began this week, relying directly on Ukrainian fascist militias. Right Sector leader Dmytro Yarosh and business oligarch Igor Kolomoysky are now setting up their own battalions in the east, coordinated with officials in Kiev....."

We're both against talk and corruption.  Putin's saving 28-billion dollars by seizing Crimea.  Yatsenyuk just received 2-billion from the west.  If Timosenko wins on May 25th (they should just move the elections back to next year, when originally scheduled), another scam-artist enters the scene. 

Watch the money.   -Which is what a strong US would do, instead of talking.  And watch via satellite, Russia's transportation-hardware.  You can't hide 17.4-meter-long, 16-wheeled vehicles in-transit.  I'd arrange some coincidental transport-launcher 'accidents' in the next few months, if I were in-power.  Walk softly, but carry a big bag of black tricks.

CNN outraged: Why Kiev still don't shoot?!   
Video:
http://russian.rt.com/inotv/2014-04-29/Fox-News-negoduet-Kiev-do

This idiot better not piss off Russia too much, or they won't give us a ride into space anymore.

What a moron.  Why can't we have our own space program again?

Quote from: taxed on April 29, 2014, 12:16:47 PM
This idiot better not piss off Russia too much, or they won't give us a ride into space anymore.

What a moron.  Why can't we have our own space program again?

Why?

"If you like your space program, you can keep your space program.  Period."