Two things here. A glimpse into Obama's own racist perspective:

Obama said, "Keep in mind most of these laws are not preventing the the overwhelmingly majority of folks who don't vote from voting. Most people do have and ID. Most people do have a drivers license. Most people can get to the polls."

"But the bottom line is, if less then half of our folks vote, these laws aren't preventing the other half from not voting," he added.

A REAL President would see all of America as "our folks", not just those descended. from Africa.  Imagine GW Bush saying anything like this!

Watchdog.org and Fox News are already covering the issue. Here's a bit of Watchdog's story:

QuoteCHICAGO — Early Voting in Illinois got off to its typical start Monday, as votes being cast for Republican candidates were transformed into votes for Democrats.

Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan went to vote Monday at the Schaumburg Public Library.

He had trouble voting for himself on Monday when early voting started in Illinois. "I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast the vote for my opponent," Moynihan said. "You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat."

We've all heard the stories, especially from 2012. I think anyone who doesn't believe voter fraud happens on a widespread basis is a fool.

What say you? Here's a place to argue the issue and post the stories and accounts you find.

Here's one.

'Calibration error' ...MY ASS!!!! changes GOP votes to Dem in Illinois county

CHICAGO — Early voting in Illinois got off to a rocky start Monday, as votes being cast for Republican candidates were transformed into votes for Democrats.

Republican state representative candidate Jim Moynihan went to vote Monday at the Schaumburg Public Library.

"I tried to cast a vote for myself and instead it cast the vote for my opponent," Moynihan said. "You could imagine my surprise as the same thing happened with a number of races when I tried to vote for a Republican and the machine registered a vote for a Democrat."

The conservative website Illinois Review reported that "While using a touch screen voting machine in Schaumburg, Moynihan voted for several races on the ballot, only to find that whenever he voted for a Republican candidate, the machine registered the vote for a Democrat in the same race. He notified the election judge at his polling place and demonstrated that it continued to cast a vote for the opposing candidate's party. Moynihan was eventually allowed to vote for Republican candidates, including his own race.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/10/22/calibration-error-changes-gop-votes-to-dem-in-illinois-county/

O'Keefe is at it again -- and good for him! This time its's vote fraud in Colorado, one of a handful of states where every voter now receives a paper ballot in the mail about a month before the election. These mail ballots have always been pointed out by critics as obviously prone to fraud, and O'Keefe found that, at least to some extent, it's true.

QuoteJames O'Keefe, the guerilla filmmaker who brought down the ACORN voter-registration fraudsters in 2010 and forced the resignation of NPR executives, politely disagrees. Today, he is releasing some new undercover footage that raises disturbing questions about ballot integrity in Colorado, the site of fiercely contested races for the U.S. Senate, the U.S. House, and the governorship. When he raised the issue of filling out some of the unused ballots that are mailed to every household in the state this month, he was told by Meredith Hicks, the director of Work for Progress, a liberal group funded by Democratic Super PACS.: "That is not even like lying or something, if someone throws out a ballot, like if you want to fill it out you should do it." She then brazenly offered O'Keefe, disguised as a middle-aged college instructor, a job with her group.

Mark Udall Advocates Condone Voter Fraud: "That's not even like lying or stealing"

Quote from: TboneAgain on October 22, 2014, 06:16:46 PM
Watchdog.org and Fox News are already covering the issue. Here's a bit of Watchdog's story:

We've all heard the stories, especially from 2012. I think anyone who doesn't believe voter fraud happens on a widespread basis is a fool.

What say you? Here's a place to argue the issue and post the stories and accounts you find.

I say you are right, let me tell you all why...

I received a letter from the Democrat party a month ago. Stating I needed to fill out the form (with personal identity information of course) because according to the letter, I wasn't registered to vote.

Something I found to be odd to say the least, as not only do I ensure I am registered to vote in my state, but as I also vote in every election we hold here.

So, thinking that perhaps something was or had gone wrong in the registration to vote process along the line somewhere, I contacted the local board of elections office.

Inquiring as to my voter status, and whether or not I was indeed registered to vote.

Imagine my surprise when I was informed that not only was I registered to vote, as I'd thought was the case.

But was also told that this was not something sent by the board of elections themselves, but rather, something which the Democrat party sent out, on their own.

And that, had I filled this paper out, and sent it back in, I would have been giving the DNC, or another person the means to cast a ballot using the absentee voting process, in my name for me.

So does vote fraud go on?

Yes. Is it widespread? Again yes.

Is the DNC behind a lot of it? Again yes.

But what I find to be the most troubling is this.

Despite contacting the board of elections to inquire about this letter I received (and still have btw), despite informing them of who it was listed on both the envelope and the letter itself as the sender, despite subsequently also informing the local board of elections of clear cut, attempted voter fraud.

NOTHING was or is being done about it.

No investigation, and no prosecution of those guilty of what is at the very least attempted, and, given most aren't as careful when it comes to who they give information to, I am sure actual voter fraud as well being committed by persons representing the DNC in the state of Ohio.

The solution to voter fraud is quite simple.

A: require that a person wishing to cast a vote, not only be registered, but show some form of i.d. to prove they are who they claim they are.

And

B: Prosecute to the utmost extreme's allowed by law, those who attempt to, or actually do, commit voter fraud.
As both, the attempt, as well as the actual carrying out of such an act, are illegal both under most state statutes, as well as Federal statute.

That said, the issue of voter fraud, and voter intimidation, yet again underscore that elections are important.

That who we elect, particularly when it comes to election to high office such as that of the Presidency, can and does have consequences.

They illustrate why, it is of the utmost importance that we elect men and women who will not only uphold the law.

But appoint to such offices as the Attorney General of the United States, men and women who will actually do their job as well, by investigating, and then if the evidence bears it out, prosecuting to the fullest extent of the law, an offense such as attempted/actual voter fraud.

After all, let's not forget. Attempted/actual voter fraud, is an attack upon another person's rights. It is an attempt/act which strips them of their God Given right to vote.

Because our right, to cast our vote, as we see fit. Is not only one which men and women have died to ensure is a right we can all benefit from.

But it is also, within a republic, a GOD GIVEN RIGHT.

One which is endowed to us, by virtue of the fact we are human beings, AND one which is enumerated by our Constitution as a right of all citizens of this great republic.

The pre-election polls and exit-polls seem like they should be the keys to exposing fraud, as would records of actual convictions State-by-State.  I wish there was a margin of error 'trigger' of some sort. 

From what I could assess, Rassmussen Reports and Dick Morris lost prestige in 2012 for 'inaccurate' data... primarily drummed-up by Politifact.  This time, mathematical odds would randomly toss another polling-service onto the hot-seat if the same fraud-mechanisms are in-place. 

If margins of error have histories of showing Republicans leading in polls, yet Democrats keep winning those elections, a dam's gonna break real soon.       

This isn't the only story of voter fraud and I would almost guarantee you that this is not an isolated case and will be happening throughout the country...perhaps this is how the Democrats will retain the Senate with a "surprise" take over of the House as well.  Who really knows if this is happened in the past and how often.  Perhaps there is a possibility that this is how Romney lost to B.O.

Then we have the whole issue of absentee voting.  With an absentee ballot, all you have to do is request a ballot and fill out the form and send back.  You don't have to worry about showing ID.  I wonder how many ballots one individual can actually request or fill out as we were sent requests for people who no longer live at our address (silly me didn't think anything about it till now).  I'm wondering now what the benefit is for Democrats to vote early.  In our area (predominantly strong Republican) it has been reported that due to long lines in the past, they predict that early voting ballots will out number actual voters going to the polls.

I have very little faith in our electoral system anymore.

Quote from: suzziY on October 23, 2014, 04:33:21 AM
This isn't the only story of voter fraud and I would almost guarantee you that this is not an isolated case and will be happening throughout the country...perhaps this is how the Democrats will retain the Senate with a "surprise" take over of the House as well.  Who really knows if this is happened in the past and how often.  Perhaps there is a possibility that this is how Romney lost to B.O.

Then we have the whole issue of absentee voting.  With an absentee ballot, all you have to do is request a ballot and fill out the form and send back.  You don't have to worry about showing ID.  I wonder how many ballots one individual can actually request or fill out as we were sent requests for people who no longer live at our address (silly me didn't think anything about it till now).  I'm wondering now what the benefit is for Democrats to vote early.  In our area (predominantly strong Republican) it has been reported that due to long lines in the past, they predict that early voting ballots will out number actual voters going to the polls.

I have very little faith in our electoral system anymore.

A but there is reason and room for hope, or faith if you will.

Precisely because of something you yourself said.

"OUR electoral system".

And you are right it is OUR electoral system, if we as a people decide to stamp out voter fraud, through things such as voter I.D. requirements, or extensive, absolute, vigorous prosecution of those who attempt to commit, or actually do commit voter fraud.

Precisely because it is OUR ELECTORAL SYSTEM the people of the several states which make up the United States still even at this late date, CAN turn things around, so that America is once again a nation of rule by law, and not fiat, not political party, not tyranny. We still CAN turn thins around, so that America is once again a strong republic, and a republic where the right of a citizen, to cast one's vote as they themselves and only they themselves is a sacrosanct, and inviolable right.

As at one time this nation was.

You know as I sit here, reading and answering you SuzziY, I remember the first time I ever voted. I was 18, had no idea how to fill out a ballot, no idea how to lit operate the voting booth machinery, (old hanging chad type ballots were what we had back then) and I remember asking my dad to help me.

I remember how he was quickly stopped by the poll workers, and I remember how we were both told that even though he was my father, the law forbade anyone, anyone at all, from entering that voting booth with me, once I had my ballot in my hand and have gone into that booth. How no one, is allowed to know how I've cast my vote, until that ballot is counted.

And yet ironically now, today, every time we vote (using electronic voting) not only is someone else in the booth with us, that person/persons, may indeed very well  decide how that ballot is cast, may very well cast the vote for you too.

When just thirty years ago, it was illegal for a parent to even enter the booth with their child who is asking them "how the frack do I use this thing"?

Hereabouts, long-time pollworker Melowese Richardson is our poster gal for vote fraud -- you know, that thing Democrats swear to Christ doesn't exist. Here's a nice portrait of our poster gal, who was convicted on five counts of vote fraud based on illegal votes she cast during the 2012 election.



After her arrest, Richardson happily admitted that she had voted twice in her own name and three more times on behalf of others, including a granddaughter and a sister who had been in a coma for nine years. She justified her illegal actions by saying, "I'll fight it for Mr. Obama and for Mr. Obama's right to sit as president of the United States." (I guess we know who her illegal votes went for.)

Richardson has a fairly long criminal record, including convictions for assault, intimidation, drunken driving, and theft. I can only speculate how this woman became eligible to be a poll worker. She was sentenced to five years in state prison, but was released after Democrats filed petitions to have her sentence reduced. There was a celebration on her release, attended by you-know-who....

I hear what you are saying however, the majority of America is no longer listening to the Liar and Thief.

Justice Department Expert, Paid $70,000, Belittles Black Voters.

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In an astonishing piece of election news from North Carolina, a Justice Department expert took the stand in a voting laws case to repeatedly suggest that that black voters were "less sophisticated" than white voters. Charles Stewart, a political scientist hired by the Justice Department at a cost of around $70,000, also belittled black voters' education, competence, and public awareness.

A sampling:


Mr. Stewart: People who register to vote the closer and closer one gets to Election Day tend to be less sophisticated voters, tend to be less educated voters, tend to be voters who are less attuned to public affairs. That also tells me from the literature of political science that there are likely to be people who will end up not registering and not voting. People who correspond to those factors tend to be African Americans . . .

[Referring to same-day registration,] this is particularly a mechanism and a time that's well situated for less sophisticated voters, and, therefore, it's less likely to imagine that these voters...can figure out or would avail themselves of other forms of registering and voting.

more @
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/10/justice-department-expert-paid-70000-belittles-black-voters/

Quote from: suzziY on October 23, 2014, 12:31:30 PM
I hear what you are saying however, the majority of America is no longer listening to the Liar and Thief.

When has everyone listened to him?  I didn't and am paying a dear price for not doing more to keep his ass out of office.  The ones that have listened to him are paying the same price and I think they aren't paying enough.  That's ok though, turn about is going to be awesome when we rid the WH of all the scumbags.  How stupid and blind were scores of people that voted for the pos we now have?  It is definitely a curiosity to me.

Quote from: walkstall on October 23, 2014, 02:37:05 PM
Justice Department Expert, Paid $70,000, Belittles Black Voters.

snip~
In an astonishing piece of election news from North Carolina, a Justice Department expert took the stand in a voting laws case to repeatedly suggest that that black voters were "less sophisticated" than white voters. Charles Stewart, a political scientist hired by the Justice Department at a cost of around $70,000, also belittled black voters' education, competence, and public awareness.

A sampling:


Mr. Stewart: People who register to vote the closer and closer one gets to Election Day tend to be less sophisticated voters, tend to be less educated voters, tend to be voters who are less attuned to public affairs. That also tells me from the literature of political science that there are likely to be people who will end up not registering and not voting. People who correspond to those factors tend to be African Americans . . .

[Referring to same-day registration,] this is particularly a mechanism and a time that's well situated for less sophisticated voters, and, therefore, it's less likely to imagine that these voters...can figure out or would avail themselves of other forms of registering and voting.

more @
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/2014/10/justice-department-expert-paid-70000-belittles-black-voters/

Same day registration and voting is no longer allowed in NC. In 2016 a picture ID will be required.

It absolutely astounds me that ANYONE thinks an ID is too much of a requirement to vote.  It is the most specious argument I may have ever heard.  Anyone who buys it is an IDIOT.

I don't care for all this "early" voting.  ONE voting day is enough.  Absentee ballots have to be done, but not much else.  Both my parents have been legitimate candidates for absentee ballots (my mother had multiple sclerosis, my dad trouble walking now).  More voting opportunities = more potential for fraud.

This voting machine in suburban Chicago is but ONE example of how they do it.  "Machine calibration error" sounds like the dog ate my homework.  Lucky someone noticed it.  How much more of this goes undetected?

DaisyJane     

Quote from: DaisyJane on October 24, 2014, 10:42:06 AM
It absolutely astounds me that ANYONE thinks an ID is too much of a requirement to vote.  It is the most specious argument I may have ever heard.  Anyone who buys it is an IDIOT.

I don't care for all this "early" voting.  ONE voting day is enough.  Absentee ballots have to be done, but not much else.  Both my parents have been legitimate candidates for absentee ballots (my mother had multiple sclerosis, my dad trouble walking now).  More voting opportunities = more potential for fraud.

This voting machine in suburban Chicago is but ONE example of how they do it.  "Machine calibration error" sounds like the dog ate my homework.  Lucky someone noticed it.  How much more of this goes undetected?

DaisyJane     

Always a good idea to do a recap of your answers when you finish voting or before you submit your votes.  Some voters have reported a malfunction of the process in that their rep vote was cast as a Dem vote.