Ways to limit the MSM without screwing up the first admendment!

Started by redbeard, April 06, 2017, 06:04:29 PM

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topside

Quote from: zewazir on April 08, 2017, 11:42:57 AM
There are ways of presenting an unbiased report that is not limited to a laundry list of facts.

For instance:

On Thursday, at approximately 10pm Eastern Daylight time, two United States destroyers launched 59 Tomahawk Block IV cruise missiles against a military airfield in Syria. The missiles damaged the runways and destroyed several aircraft housed in hardened bunkers. In an announcement by President Donald Trump, he stated the missile attack is in response to a Sarin gas attack which was allegedly initiated by Syrian president Bashar al-Assad against a rebel stronghold in the city of Khan Sheikhoun. The targeted airfield is purportedly the origin of the Sarin gas attack. President Trump said his purpose is to "prevent and deter the spread and use of deadly chemical weapons."

Not exactly a Tom Clancy thriller, but not dead-assed boring, either. And I am not a professional.

The pros know how to write. The CHOOSE to use propaganda instead of truth, not just because their propaganda is more sensational, but because they have chosen to be part of the push to devolve the United States and the rest of the world into a socialist tyranny.

Thank you Zewazir ... well said! And I think you'd make a better reporter than 95% of those I hear that either overtly or insinuate via spin their positions into so-called news reports. Both red and blue. The news should present the facts and stated opinions of those on both sides of any topic - and work hard to avoid their own opinions. I would even ask them to drop editorials and stick with only reporting the news of those involved in an event by happenstance ... not by chasing after it.

quiller

Quote from: topside on April 08, 2017, 12:59:01 PM
Thank you Zewazir ... well said! And I think you'd make a better reporter than 95% of those I hear that either overtly or insinuate via spin their positions into so-called news reports. Both red and blue. The news should present the facts and stated opinions of those on both sides of any topic - and work hard to avoid their own opinions. I would even ask them to drop editorials and stick with only reporting the news of those involved in an event by happenstance ... not by chasing after it.

There goes the investigative reporting which toppled Richard Nixon.


topside

Quote from: quiller on April 09, 2017, 01:11:51 AM
There goes the investigative reporting which toppled Richard Nixon.

Yes. The random topical drive by's do find an occasional target. Is it worth all the other problems via sensationalism they stir up in the name of ratings / income / notoriety.

Also, Nixon's illegal actions were uncovered by journalists who took the time to uncover and report facts. Journalists can actually uncover their own facts ... it is possible albeit far too rare? Most (all) aspects of interest don't come across the wire but takes someone getting their hands dirty. 

redbeard


redbeard

Quote from: Solar on April 07, 2017, 08:44:47 AM
This explains why Dish made the offer they made us, they're afraid people might switch.
God I love capitalism and competition.
A few months ago I cut the TV cable but kept the High speed internet and now stream most channels. I did opt for Sling TV for the movie line ups and guess what, CNN is still in the package!! However my cable bill is half what it was. most TV channels are available on You tube these days live stream, Including FOX

topside

Quote from: redbeard on April 09, 2017, 05:33:06 PM
A few months ago I cut the TV cable but kept the High speed internet and now stream most channels. I did opt for Sling TV for the movie line ups and guess what, CNN is still in the package!! However my cable bill is half what it was. most TV channels are available on You tube these days live stream, Including FOX

You and I of the old guard have to admit we're not mainstream cases ... rare cases now. I believe that most of the millennials, especially the snow flakes, get their dialogue from the media - a vanishingly small percentage understand or care about the history of the country and how it came to become as stable as it has been. All is becoming (or is) relative ... "I'm glad the whole work ethic thing is for you but it's just not for me as I choose to pursue my passion even though it creates nothing that anyone else values; no one will give me a paycheck for drawing the art that I and my mom thinks is awesome.

Combine this prevalent mentality with the breakthroughs in communications technology (ubiquitous) over the past 20 years and you've got a recipe for major power control. A media that hawks opinion for the sake of controlling the dialogue and the country. As I've said (and seems to be falling on deaf ears), the founding fathers went to a great deal of trouble to put in checks and balances to keep the powers that be in balanced over time. They could not have forseen the tech breakthroughs or the power that it's enabled the media to wield. I haven't seen such an analysis, but I would bet you could show that the media controls a degree of power in our country that competes with the branches of government - basically on how the media influences the people who influence those in the branches of government. I'm still thinking an amendment to the constitution regarding the actions of societal groups, which would include the media, is in keeping with balance of power and does not contradict the original intention of the first amendment to give individuals free speech. 

You may choose to turn off the media of varied forms ... good for you. But you are the exception and not the rule. 

Solar

Quote from: redbeard on April 09, 2017, 05:26:08 PM
But you are not forced to buy them!
OK, I see what you meant now.
Yeah, I guess your only true option is to buy a Satellite receiver, an actual 12' dish and you are free to purchase individual channels, not packages, and it really isn't that expensive in the long run.
But because you do have options, you don't actually have a case, unless, you can prove you are being forced to hook to a service, say like govt housing and they only allow one provider.
Then you might have a case, but someone like me, they'd laugh out of court because I can't even get cable or DSL, only satellite.
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