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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2017, 01:29:41 PM »
I have been watching part of the senate hearing this morning and, quite frankly, I find it nauseating. I believe these hearings are worthless and nothing more than an opportunity pompous senators to pontificate. This applies to both sides of the aisle. These nominees are not going to give any indication of how they would rule on any specific case or issue. It would save a lot of time if there not be public hearings and senators would have to do their own research and then vote.

They are pointless but right now he is making Al Franken look like a complete buffoon.


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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #16 on: March 21, 2017, 01:33:01 PM »
They are pointless but right now he is making Al Franken look like a complete buffoon.


Al Franken can do that all on his own with no help.   :lol:
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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #17 on: March 21, 2017, 03:40:54 PM »
I watched the hearings and the democrats did their usual grandstanding however each of them listed many cases to which they disagreed with Gorsuch's ruling. I researched them and each time Gorsuch simply upheld the law as written by congress. That's what we want a conservative judge to do.

I might have been able to do the same, if I was suffering from insomnia, drank a bottle of 151, and chased it with a 6-pack of beer.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #18 on: March 22, 2017, 05:58:45 AM »
It would save a lot of time if there not be public hearings and senators would have to do their own research and then vote.

Which is worse? You being bored by bloviating baboons, or the U.S. enslaved by a rogue government capitalizing on our indifference? As long as they are in the public eye there is the potential that they will be held to their promises and obliged to do their duty.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2017, 11:33:19 AM »
Here is another article that proves the democrats have no leverage on this matter.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/senate-democrats-may-seek-deal-with-gop-to-confirm-gorsuch-stave-off-nuclear-option.html

So, according to the piece, Schumer is discussing behind the scenes that in return for not blocking Gorsuch McConnell would pledge not to invoke the "nuclear option" on future appointments. Why would McConnell disarm when he holds all the ammo? Chuckie, you have nothing! OTOH, McConnell is such an idiot that he might go along with it.
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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2017, 11:47:03 AM »
Here is another article that proves the democrats have no leverage on this matter.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/03/23/senate-democrats-may-seek-deal-with-gop-to-confirm-gorsuch-stave-off-nuclear-option.html

So, according to the piece, Schumer is discussing behind the scenes that in return for not blocking Gorsuch McConnell would pledge not to invoke the "nuclear option" on future appointments. Why would McConnell disarm when he holds all the ammo? Chuckie, you have nothing! OTOH, McConnell is such an idiot that he might go along with it.
It's not so much that the Con is an idiot, it's that he did this exact thing when he reversed Reid's nuke option, so it's pretty obvious he'll do it for Scummer and claim it was the best deal he could make.
Man, this guy really pisses me off, he gives the store away at every turn despite a solid majority and has the audacity to claim it was the best deal we could get?
We don't have to deal with the leftists Con, you stupid RINO asshole!
Guess where the Con ranks in this list? Yeah, pretty much ranks as a lib.
How bad is it when John Cornyn gets a better ranking than the Con, considering Cornyn is the epitome RINO?

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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #21 on: March 23, 2017, 12:11:14 PM »
It's not so much that the Con is an idiot, it's that he did this exact thing when he reversed Reid's nuke option, so it's pretty obvious he'll do it for Scummer and claim it was the best deal he could make.
Man, this guy really pisses me off, he gives the store away at every turn despite a solid majority and has the audacity to claim it was the best deal we could get?
We don't have to deal with the leftists Con, you stupid RINO asshole!
Guess where the Con ranks in this list? Yeah, pretty much ranks as a lib.
How bad is it when John Cornyn gets a better ranking than the Con, considering Cornyn is the epitome RINO?



Not surprising Cheech and Chong are 1 & 2.
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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #22 on: March 23, 2017, 12:30:14 PM »
Not surprising Cheech and Chong are 1 & 2.
I never understood placement, because Collins ranks as a lib and she's way down the list.
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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #23 on: March 23, 2017, 12:50:49 PM »
I never understood placement, because Collins ranks as a lib and she's way down the list.

I am somewhat puzzled by the rankings as well. However, keep in mind we are dealing with RINO's.
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« Reply #24 on: March 23, 2017, 12:54:46 PM »
I never understood placement, because Collins ranks as a lib and she's way down the list.
The ranking 1 thru 25 does not coincide with their conservative scores. Graham, in top spot, has a Liberty Score of 30%, while Alexander, in 3rd, has a score of 15%. Collins, 11th, scores at 10%.

I do know that CR derives their Liberty Scores from voting records. The more often they vote with conservative values on a wide variety of issues, the higher their score. Thus Graham votes with conservative values about 30% of the time (hard to believe....) while Collins only 10% of the time.

Why, then, the ranking from 1-25 in that order? Well, here is how CR explains their ranking:
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At Conservative Review, we routinely mention that our federal elected officials not only have votes, they have a voice. A voice to fight for freedom and make the critical arguments that are so badly needed to advance conservative principles.  A voice to draw attention to a shady deal or those with ill intentions who aim to consolidate power for themselves.

But that voice can also be used to undermine conservative outcomes. It’s all too common for a “pragmatic” Republican to try to advance a bad deal or save failing liberal legislation. Past examples include the Gang of 8 amnesty bill, the Manchin-Schumer-Toomey gun control bill, the Wall Street bailout known as TARP, and basically any debt limit or massive omnibus spending bill from the last decade.

That’s why Conservative Review compiled a list of the top 10 Republican members in Congress and the 25 worst Republicans in Congress. We didn’t just examine each elected official’s Liberty Score®. We also looked at their role and behavior in the legislative process, both in public and behind the scenes.
Kind of makes sense. Graham and McCain are always out front explaining why conservatives just need to relax and give in to tyranny so we can all be happy. They manage to get by depending on longevity and name recognition to keep their seats. Collins is somewhat less likely to outright denigrate conservative values in public speaking and new conferences as her seat is not quite as secure against challengers. But consistently votes against them, relying on the fact that few people bother looking at voting records.

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Re: Neil Gorsuch - A Pivotal Week For Republicans
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2017, 01:59:16 PM »
The ranking 1 thru 25 does not coincide with their conservative scores. Graham, in top spot, has a Liberty Score of 30%, while Alexander, in 3rd, has a score of 15%. Collins, 11th, scores at 10%.

I do know that CR derives their Liberty Scores from voting records. The more often they vote with conservative values on a wide variety of issues, the higher their score. Thus Graham votes with conservative values about 30% of the time (hard to believe....) while Collins only 10% of the time.

Why, then, the ranking from 1-25 in that order? Well, here is how CR explains their ranking:Kind of makes sense. Graham and McCain are always out front explaining why conservatives just need to relax and give in to tyranny so we can all be happy. They manage to get by depending on longevity and name recognition to keep their seats. Collins is somewhat less likely to outright denigrate conservative values in public speaking and new conferences as her seat is not quite as secure against challengers. But consistently votes against them, relying on the fact that few people bother looking at voting records.
Well I'll be damned, and it makes total sense with the traitors leading the list. :thumbup:
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