NY Slimes: Dims In Worse Shape Than We Thought

Started by Solar, June 08, 2017, 03:36:52 PM

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Paraphrased that it... "The Democratic Party Is in Worse Shape Than You Thought"

You know if these libs can see it and willing to talk about it, it must be 100 times worse.

Sifting through the wreckage of the 2016 election, Democratic pollsters, strategists and sympathetic academics have reached some unnerving conclusions.

What the autopsy reveals is that Democratic losses among working class voters were not limited to whites; that crucial constituencies within the party see its leaders as alien; and that unity over economic populism may not be able to turn back the conservative tide.

Equally disturbing, winning back former party loyalists who switched to Trump will be tough: these white voters' views on immigration and race are in direct conflict with fundamental Democratic tenets.

Some of these post-mortem conclusions are based on polling and focus groups conducted by the Democratic super PAC Priorities USA; others are drawn from a collection of 13 essays published by The American Prospect.

A consistent theme is that the focus on white defections from the Democratic Party masks an even more threatening trend: declining turnout among key elements of the so-called Rising American Electorate — minority, young and single voters. Turnout among African-Americans, for example, fell by 7 points, from 66.6 percent in 2012 to 59.6 percent in 2016.

Priorities USA, in surveys and focus groups, studied "drop off voters," those who lean Democratic but failed to vote in either 2014 or 2016. By and large, these voters were members of the coalition that elected and re-elected Barack Obama:

Priorities also studied Obama-to-Trump voters. Estimates of the number of such voters range from 6.7 to 9.2 million, far more than enough to provide Trump his Electoral College victory. The counties that switched from Obama to Trump were heavily concentrated in the Midwest and other Rust Belt states.

To say that this constituency does not look favorably on the Democratic Party fails to capture the scope of their disenchantment.

The accompanying chart illustrates this discontent. A solid majority, 77 percent, of Obama-to-Trump voters think Trump's economic policies will either favor "all groups equally" (44) or the middle class (33). 21 percent said Trump would favor the wealthy.

In contrast, a plurality of these voters, 42 percent, said that Congressional Democrats would favor the wealthy, slightly ahead of Congressional Republicans at 40 percent.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/opinion/the-democratic-party-is-in-worse-shape-than-you-thought.html
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They didn't help themselves by having a post election tantrum that is still going on.

Solar

Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 08, 2017, 06:34:32 PM
They didn't help themselves by having a post election tantrum that is still going on.
Yep, blaming the party's failures on the constituency was a pretty stupid move, but then, moving extreme left was the stupidest blunder ever too.
I guess every party has a few of those people that won't leave till they suck down the very last drop from the keg.
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Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2017, 08:02:02 PM
Yep, blaming the party's failures on the constituency was a pretty stupid move, but then, moving extreme left was the stupidest blunder ever too.
I guess every party has a few of those people that won't leave till they suck down the very last drop from the keg.

Not to mention 8 months of Russia conspiracies that have proved nothing.

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Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 08, 2017, 08:11:05 PM
Not to mention 8 months of Russia conspiracies that have proved nothing.
Yep, and the media lied for them the entire time, and look what's happened to it.
I swear, this will be the decade the left hits bottom worldwide.
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Quote from: Solar on June 08, 2017, 08:23:58 PM
Yep, and the media lied for them the entire time, and look what's happened to it.
I swear, this will be the decade the left hits bottom worldwide.

It's going to be bad but the GOP has to get something passed. The fact that they were not ready to replace Obamacare is unforgivable.

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Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 08, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
It's going to be bad but the GOP has to get something passed. The fact that they were not ready to replace Obamacare is unforgivable.
I think the gop'E are worried, they see how much the country hates the left, and the gop'e is no exception the way they've been acting for the last several decades.
If they don't start working with Trump, there will be another purging of leftist from a political party, and it won't be the Dims this time.
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Quote from: The Boo Man... on June 08, 2017, 08:32:51 PM
It's going to be bad but the GOP has to get something passed. The fact that they were not ready to replace Obamacare is unforgivable.

Correct. The GOP is being handed a total landslide in 2018 and are looking as if they are going to blow it. Time for Ryan and McConnell to go to work.
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

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Quote from: supsalemgr on June 09, 2017, 04:14:50 AM
Correct. The GOP is being handed a total landslide in 2018 and are looking as if they are going to blow it. Time for Ryan and McConnell to go to work.
FIFY..
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Bad news for Democrats evidently comes in waves, since Michigan Democrats were just fined the largest amount ever ($500,000) for running bingo games but keeping their typically suspect book-keeping. Gotta love the final paragraph, below....

QuoteThe party has agreed to pay a hefty $500,000 civil fine to the Federal Elections Commission — one of the largest penalties every levied by that office — after an internal investigation of its bingo operation, which was used for political fund-raising, found numerous examples of shoddy record keeping, contributions that exceeded limits and campaign finance reporting inaccuracies. one of the largest fines eve levied by the federal elections commission.

It's a fine that far exceeds the average penalty levied against candidates and political organizations over the years. The highest average fine over the past 40 years was $179,499 in 2006.

"It's a significant fine," said former Democratic Party chairman Lon Johnson, who started the internal investigation of the party's bingo game operations in 2014 and turned that investigation over to the FEC.

In addition to the fine, the state Democratic Party has agreed to hire a treasurer who is equipped to comply with all FEC regulations as well as an independent accounting firm that will review all the party's accounting process for the next two years.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/06/09/bingo-its-costly-game-michigan-democratic-party/381199001/

This was so corrupt that their own leader turned them in.

QuoteThe investigation pits two former Democratic Party chairmen — Mark Brewer and Lon Johnson — who fought a contentious battle in 2013 to lead the party. Brewer, who led the party from 1995 to 2013 lost to Johnson, who subsequently started the investigation of the bingo operations that Brewer had run.

There are no good guys in this. In 1986, Michigan voters rejected an effort to ban bingo as a fundraiser for any political party.

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Quote from: quiller on June 09, 2017, 06:58:57 AM
Bad news for Democrats evidently comes in waves, since Michigan Democrats were just fined the largest amount ever ($500,000) for running bingo games but keeping their typically suspect book-keeping. Gotta love the final paragraph, below....

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/06/09/bingo-its-costly-game-michigan-democratic-party/381199001/

This was so corrupt that their own leader turned them in.

There are no good guys in this. In 1986, Michigan voters rejected an effort to ban bingo as a fundraiser for any political party.
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Can you imagine the field day the LSM would have, had this been the gop'E?
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Quote from: Solar on June 09, 2017, 09:30:38 AM
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Can you imagine the field day the LSM would have, had this been the gop'E?

I'm still trying to imagine a Democrat fundraising operation that must now be run honestly. In Michigan, they'll find all sorts of more bleed-offs from swindling trash at all levels.

That part about feeding money into accounts of nonexistent winners must be a twist on siphoning salaries from ghost workers. They probably got caught by avoiding taxes.

Oh. The media take?

DID G.O.P. RIG DEMOCRATS' BINGO?

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Quote from: supsalemgr on June 09, 2017, 04:14:50 AM
Correct. The GOP is being handed a total landslide in 2018 and are looking as if they are going to blow it. Time for Ryan and McConnell to go to work.

If I was the head of the GOP I would have them put together a bill and wait to have it passed until the end of this years session because of all the news stories we're going to see about higher premiums. Then swoop in and rescue the healthcare system before the next Obamacare enrollment period.

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Quote from: quiller on June 09, 2017, 05:24:20 PM
I'm still trying to imagine a Democrat fundraising operation that must now be run honestly. In Michigan, they'll find all sorts of more bleed-offs from swindling trash at all levels.

That part about feeding money into accounts of nonexistent winners must be a twist on siphoning salaries from ghost workers. They probably got caught by avoiding taxes.

Oh. The media take?

DID G.O.P. RIG DEMOCRATS' BINGO?
Yeah, LSM: "GOP Suspected DNC Fundraising Scam, Did Nothing To Stop It."
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