NY Paper Runs Map Of Permit Holders

Started by Solar, December 24, 2012, 11:13:54 AM

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raptor5618

Solar I was saying to post the names of the advertisers and let them hear from the public that they will not purchase any of their products or services.  A long time ago I went to a lecture by I think it was Ray Bradbury who was the creator of Star Trek.  I am not a big fan but since back then there have been numerous movies and a large number of versions so I think it is clear that viewers like the concept. 

Well the original Star Trek was canceled pretty quickly and I think it was in its first year because it was not able to attract advertising.  He went on to explain that all TV shows are created with the intent of attracting advertising.  No matter how creative a show is, if the network cannot get advertising the show is gone. 

I am certain that while the newspaper could withstand a drop in the number of subscribers, it probably could not continue this tactic if its advertising base dried up.  I am sure the people inside the company are not happy to have their names published but if they are die hard libs I am sure they see themselves as rebels standing up for a cause to take all legal guns away for law abiding citizens.  They might be nervous but now their job takes on an air of risk which I am sure makes them a bit happier to say what they do for a living when that comes up.  Would you rather say you print a newspaper or say that you print a low readership newspaper that is so cutting edge that you have to be careful because of the haters wanting to harm you. 

Who do you remember, the general who organizes the supplies that go to war or the general who leads the charge against the enemy.

I think the GOP really needs to give up the intellectual discussions that only work on those who are willing to consider another point of view which most libs are not going to do no matter how illogical their opinion is.  I think they need to go for the jugular and do it with intent.  They need to stop trying to win the war of words and instead go for  the total and complete destruction of the lib point of view.  Just like police are trained to do they need to keep at it until the target is down and incapacitated.  Once you decide that action needs to be taken it has to done with a complete dedication to the cause. 

I do not see even a hint that the GOP has the heart or will to even attempt such an approach but until they learn that the Libs are at war and are not playing a civilized game they are going to be constantly taking one step forward and then immediately taking two steps back. 

"An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity."

AndyJackson

We can't sit around worried about looking overly litigious.  Or mean, or hateful, or divisive, or contentious, or "scorched earth", or 100 other labels.  These labels mean one thing in lib-media speak - anything that the GOP or conservatives ask for, value, or believe in.  We can't escape the labels by giving in and giving up every time, which seems to be SOP for Boehner and pals.

They do it and win / prosper.....we need to fire back on all fronts.

The leftists have another great tactic - they get away with stuff like this forever, then announce "they all do it" when caught, and quickly revert to "oh, so you think two wrongs make a right if you do it too".

It's pure kiddie stuff, they say and do anything to get an edge, then say and do anything to demonize others for what they do themselves.

It's high time to not care anymore, and go on the warpath.  It's the only thing that will change anything.  We can't beat the dems, marxists, deadbeat moochers, and media any other way.

JustKari

Quote from: raptor5618 on January 04, 2013, 11:47:40 AM
Solar I was saying to post the names of the advertisers and let them hear from the public that they will not purchase any of their products or services.  A long time ago I went to a lecture by I think it was Ray Bradbury who was the creator of Star Trek.  I am not a big fan but since back then there have been numerous movies and a large number of versions so I think it is clear that viewers like the concept. 

Well the original Star Trek was canceled pretty quickly and I think it was in its first year because it was not able to attract advertising.  He went on to explain that all TV shows are created with the intent of attracting advertising.  No matter how creative a show is, if the network cannot get advertising the show is gone. 

I am certain that while the newspaper could withstand a drop in the number of subscribers, it probably could not continue this tactic if its advertising base dried up.  I am sure the people inside the company are not happy to have their names published but if they are die hard libs I am sure they see themselves as rebels standing up for a cause to take all legal guns away for law abiding citizens.  They might be nervous but now their job takes on an air of risk which I am sure makes them a bit happier to say what they do for a living when that comes up.  Would you rather say you print a newspaper or say that you print a low readership newspaper that is so cutting edge that you have to be careful because of the haters wanting to harm you. 

Who do you remember, the general who organizes the supplies that go to war or the general who leads the charge against the enemy.

I think the GOP really needs to give up the intellectual discussions that only work on those who are willing to consider another point of view which most libs are not going to do no matter how illogical their opinion is.  I think they need to go for the jugular and do it with intent.  They need to stop trying to win the war of words and instead go for  the total and complete destruction of the lib point of view.  Just like police are trained to do they need to keep at it until the target is down and incapacitated.  Once you decide that action needs to be taken it has to done with a complete dedication to the cause. 

I do not see even a hint that the GOP has the heart or will to even attempt such an approach but until they learn that the Libs are at war and are not playing a civilized game they are going to be constantly taking one step forward and then immediately taking two steps back.
Gene Roddenberry, but yes, I see your point.

supsalemgr

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 04, 2013, 12:29:57 PM
We can't sit around worried about looking overly litigious.  Or mean, or hateful, or divisive, or contentious, or "scorched earth", or 100 other labels.  These labels mean one thing in lib-media speak - anything that the GOP or conservatives ask for, value, or believe in.  We can't escape the labels by giving in and giving up every time, which seems to be SOP for Boehner and pals.

They do it and win / prosper.....we need to fire back on all fronts.

The leftists have another great tactic - they get away with stuff like this forever, then announce "they all do it" when caught, and quickly revert to "oh, so you think two wrongs make a right if you do it too".

It's pure kiddie stuff, they say and do anything to get an edge, then say and do anything to demonize others for what they do themselves.

It's high time to not care anymore, and go on the warpath.  It's the only thing that will change anything.  We can't beat the dems, marxists, deadbeat moochers, and media any other way.

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:
"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

raptor5618

Opps old age and not enough sleep creeping up on me. So yes that is who I meant.  Also I am hopeful that the tea party or GOP read AJ's posts and are inspired to pick up the flag and charge forward with no thought of retreat or surrender.   I do not think it will be a forlorn hope type of charge but will in the end be successful.

I do not think they need to resort to flat out lying like the Dem party seems to enjoy but they do need to have the scorched earth mentality.  They are not engaged in a political discussion over tea with the Dem's and libs, but more like a cage match and only one winner can emerge.  History is so absolutely clear that the path we are on will never work that fighting against it can be won if only they make it totally clear what they stand for and how misguided the libs are. 
"An armed man will kill an unarmed man with monotonous regularity."

supsalemgr

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Quote from: raptor5618 on January 04, 2013, 12:54:45 PM
Opps old age and not enough sleep creeping up on me. So yes that is who I meant.  Also I am hopeful that the tea party or GOP read AJ's posts and are inspired to pick up the flag and charge forward with no thought of retreat or surrender.   I do not think it will be a forlorn hope type of charge but will in the end be successful.

I do not think they need to resort to flat out lying like the Dem party seems to enjoy but they do need to have the scorched earth mentality.[/[/color  They are not engaged in a political discussion over tea with the Dem's and libs, but more like a cage match and only one winner can emerge.  History is so absolutely clear that the path we are on will never work that fighting against it can be won if only they make it totally clear what they stand for and how misguided the libs are.

The GOP does not have to lie. Just telling the truth over and over will work if they are relentless.


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"If you can't run with the big dawgs, stay on the porch!"

AndyJackson

It will take an entirely new attitude and approach.

You never hear anything true and honest about anything, unless it comes from Limbaugh, or on occasion Hannity or Beck.  It's these 1.5 guys vs. the entire rest of the media, and FOX seems to bounce back and forth between being conservative & not.  Ditto O'Reilly.

The second stringers like Savage, Levin, Boortz, Ingraham, Coulter, are fun to listen to, but they don't put much out there of note.

We need a new, coordinated method.  One that's loud and overbearing, and never shuts up no matter how hard the media and WH machine cries, labels, and accuses.

JustKari

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 04, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
It will take an entirely new attitude and approach.

You never hear anything true and honest about anything, unless it comes from Limbaugh, or on occasion Hannity or Beck.  It's these 1.5 guys vs. the entire rest of the media, and FOX seems to bounce back and forth between being conservative & not.  Ditto O'Reilly.

The second stringers like Savage, Levin, Boortz, Ingraham, Coulter, are fun to listen to, but they don't put much out there of note.

We need a new, coordinated method.  One that's loud and overbearing, and never shuts up no matter how hard the media and WH machine cries, labels, and accuses.

Another Breitbart, perhaps?

taxed

Quote from: AndyJackson on January 04, 2013, 02:46:40 PM
It will take an entirely new attitude and approach.

You never hear anything true and honest about anything, unless it comes from Limbaugh, or on occasion Hannity or Beck.  It's these 1.5 guys vs. the entire rest of the media, and FOX seems to bounce back and forth between being conservative & not.  Ditto O'Reilly.
Beck is awesome.  O'Reilly is a lib.

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The second stringers like Savage, Levin, Boortz, Ingraham, Coulter, are fun to listen to, but they don't put much out there of note.
I wouldn't call Levin a second stringer....  I'd say he's the best.  Lumme some Talkmaster.


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We need a new, coordinated method.  One that's loud and overbearing, and never shuts up no matter how hard the media and WH machine cries, labels, and accuses.
Media-wise, I think Beck is the closest to a conservative media outlet.  He may have been wiffed on the Current TV deal, but that shows he's in acquisition mode....
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

Yawn

Beck has accomplished GREAT things, and will do a lot more over the next few years. I guess ADD has an upside. He's the future of the media if we survive another decade. The MSM will die off soon.

BILLY Defiant

I hear these chickenshits went out and hired armed guards for their newspaper.

Billy
Evil operates best when it is disguised for what it truly is.

Cryptic Bert

I wonder what would happen if we published the names and addresses of all those that had abortions....

Yawn

And there's an example of why the "right" always loses these battles. even "our own" describe playing by their rules, "anger and hate."  Of course such people NEVER use those words until the right does anything. The left can never be described as "hateful."

walkstall

Quote from: The Fallen on January 04, 2013, 05:18:59 PM
Anything that's public records can be procured without paying (about) anything. The problem I have with this is why she would want to do so or was it to keep someone from breaking into others homes or to let them know they have guns? Or was she out to make a point about those who have gun (permits). I wonder if her address is on the list?  :confused:

Anyway I think what she did was over the top by putting those involved who have a gun (permits) in the paper. We need to take the high road by not putting her children's and family in danger as she did others.... Anger and hate shouldn't be the cause of putting another childs life an danger or getting them killed to prove a point. :sad:


When the dealer deals the cards the dealer must play the hand they dealt themselves.  She is the one that must take responsibility for her actions.  At some point in life you must reap what you sow.   "The pen is mightier than the sword" works both ways.  You can only give someone a pass for so long, she crossed the line.   She not only crossed the line once but is looking at do it again. 
A politician thinks of the next election. A statesman, of the next generation.- James Freeman Clarke

Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

taxed

Quote from: The Fallen on January 04, 2013, 05:18:59 PM
Anything that's public records can be procured without paying (about) anything. The problem I have with this is why she would want to do so or was it to keep someone from breaking into others homes or to let them know they have guns? Or was she out to make a point about those who have gun (permits). I wonder if her address is on the list?  :confused:

Anyway I think what she did was over the top by putting those involved who have a gun (permits) in the paper. We need to take the high road by not putting her children's and family in danger as she did others.... Anger and hate shouldn't be the cause of putting another childs life an danger or getting them killed to prove a point. :sad:

I think they need a wakeup call.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon