Quote from: Solar on April 18, 2019, 02:39:32 PM
The day before the fire...




ONE OF THREE women allegedly involved in a foiled plot in 2016 to blow up a car packed with gas canisters near the Notre Dame cathedral in Paris was today sentenced to eight years in prison by a French court for earlier offences.

Ines Madani, 22, was sentenced following a three-day trial during which she was accused of encouraging would-be jihadists to go to Syria and participate in attacks against France between March 2015 and June 2016.

She used Telegram – an encrypted messaging app widely used by jihadists to communicate.

Judge Isabelle Prevost-Desprez said that Madani was "recruited" by Oumar Diaw, also known as Abou Barrou, an influential jihadist of the Islamic State group.

She used different pseudonyms on social networks, pretending for example to be Abu Souleymane, a jihadist returned from Raqa to carry out attacks in France.

"You had some autonomy in the management of your personality.... Your determination marks your dangerousness," Prevost-Desprez said.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/04/breaking-on-friday-female-jihadi-jailed-over-attempted-car-bombing-outside-notre-dame-cathedral/

It has been suggested by others that this fire was an OPERATION CHANGE THE SUBJECT orchestrated by Macron.

At first I thought this absurd.

Now I'm not so sure.

The fire apparently started On the roof, the hardest most inaccessible place for the Fire Dept to get water to because of the height of the building and the limitation of the fire equipment....if I were going to start  a fire.......

Regarding the Notre-Dame fire, not intending to rain on the parade of the
arson mongers, yet thought it might be appropriate to share information
published this afternoon in La Parisienne/Paris (French only).
A preliminary assessment, indicates that the fire was caused by extensive
short circuity malfunctions in the attic wiring.
The Cathedral roof had been reinforced w/lead over centuries and Spring
weather in Paris has been above normal, approaching 45C equivalent to 113F.
Additionally the support beams are of 900 year old bone-dry Oak, and you
have the ingredients for a rapidly cascading cauldron.

Quote from: Walter Josh on April 18, 2019, 07:16:56 PM
Regarding the Notre-Dame fire, not intending to rain on the parade of the
arson mongers, yet thought it might be appropriate to share information
published this afternoon in La Parisienne/Paris (French only).
A preliminary assessment, indicates that the fire was caused by extensive
short circuity malfunctions in the attic wiring.
The Cathedral roof had been reinforced w/lead over centuries and Spring
weather in Paris has been above normal, approaching 45C equivalent to 113F.
Additionally the support beams are of 900 year old bone-dry Oak, and you
have the ingredients for a rapidly cascading cauldron.

I dont buy it. They were saying accident while it still burned. If all this about being ready to go up in smoke is true then it's been true for 100+ years, so why now of all times, at Easter, with all these other church burnings, while muslims are taking over france.

Quote from: Walter Josh on April 18, 2019, 07:16:56 PM
Regarding the Notre-Dame fire, not intending to rain on the parade of the
arson mongers, yet thought it might be appropriate to share information
published this afternoon in La Parisienne/Paris (French only).
A preliminary assessment, indicates that the fire was caused by extensive
short circuity malfunctions in the attic wiring.
The Cathedral roof had been reinforced w/lead over centuries and Spring
weather in Paris has been above normal, approaching 45C equivalent to 113F.
Additionally the support beams are of 900 year old bone-dry Oak, and you
have the ingredients for a rapidly cascading cauldron.

So now we're arson mongers....makes me wonder why you are being so obstinate and closed minded. You really beleive the French?

Investigators in Paris said Thursday they believe an electrical short-circuit is most likely the cause behind the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral.

The French judicial police official, who spoke anonymously about the ongoing probe, said investigators still don't have the go-ahead to search the rubble or work in the cathedral because of safety concerns.

MACRON VOWS TO REBUILD NOTRE DAME IN 5 YEARS, AS DRAMATIC FOOTAGE OF FIREFIGHTERS IS RELEASED

Although authorities consider the fire an accident, possibly as a result of restoration work at the global architectural treasure that survived almost 900 years of French history, Paris prosecutor Remy Heitz said earlier this week that the inquiry into what caused the fire would be "long and complex."

Some 50 investigators are actively working the case and are expected to interview workers from five companies hired for the renovations to the cathedral's roof, where the flames first broke out.


How can an investigator come to a conclusion without being able to search rubble and gather evidence?   Unless of course somebody is channeling the amazing Kreskin

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 19, 2019, 02:33:24 PM

So now we're arson mongers....makes me wonder why you are being so obstinate and closed minded. You really beleive the French?

Investigators in Paris said Thursday they believe an electrical short-circuit is most likely the cause behind the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral.

The French judicial police official, who spoke anonymously about the ongoing probe, said investigators still don't have the go-ahead to search the rubble or work in the cathedral because of safety concerns.

MACRON VOWS TO REBUILD NOTRE DAME IN 5 YEARS, AS DRAMATIC FOOTAGE OF FIREFIGHTERS IS RELEASED

Although authorities consider the fire an accident, possibly as a result of restoration work at the global architectural treasure that survived almost 900 years of French history, Paris prosecutor Remy Heitz said earlier this week that the inquiry into what caused the fire would be "long and complex."

Some 50 investigators are actively working the case and are expected to interview workers from five companies hired for the renovations to the cathedral's roof, where the flames first broke out.


How can an investigator come to a conclusion without being able to search rubble and gather evidence?   Unless of course somebody is channeling the amazing Kreskin

"The French judicial police official, who spoke anonymously " How CONvenient...

As an electrician, I find this claim to be beyond ludicrous. But for them to even assert such a claim so early in the investigation screams "COVER UP!"

Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2019, 02:41:14 PM
"The French judicial police official, who spoke anonymously " How CONvenient...

As an electrician, I find this claim to be beyond ludicrous. But for them to even assert such a claim so early in the investigation screams "COVER UP!"

I think they realize what will happen should a Jihadi suspect (s) emerge, it will be the spark that sets a backlash against the islamic invaders.

I heard a theory the other day as well, this is from a guy who hates the catholic Church, he says that Church officials started the fire because the resotration process was too costly ad taking too long, so burn it all down ad start a fresh, and of course the sympathy donations that would follow would be a nice cash cow

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 19, 2019, 03:04:18 PM
I think they realize what will happen should a Jihadi suspect (s) emerge, it will be the spark that sets a backlash against the islamic invaders.

I heard a theory the other day as well, this is from a guy who hates the catholic Church, he says that Church officials started the fire because the resotration process was too costly ad taking too long, so burn it all down ad start a fresh, and of course the sympathy donations that would follow would be a nice cash cow

Yeah, I pass nothing to chance where Marxists are involved, and the church is now run by Marxists, oddly enough, aligning with the Muscums that enter the country.
Is there no low these people will go when it comes to power?

Whatever the cause, it was definitely arson, and we may never know the truth of who was behind it. But with 900 church vandalism's for the year, it would definitely make for good cover.

I visited Notre Dame Cathedral in 1974, it was pretty amazing. 

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 18, 2019, 04:30:25 PM
The fire apparently started On the roof, the hardest most inaccessible place for the Fire Dept to get water to because of the height of the building and the limitation of the fire equipment....if I were going to start  a fire.......

https://youtu.be/FMwtmvrzK1g

Quote from: Rotwang on April 19, 2019, 04:47:48 PM
https://youtu.be/FMwtmvrzK1g

Good find! Your link was bad, here's the real one/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMwtmvrzK1g

Quote from: Solar on April 19, 2019, 05:11:41 PM
Good find! Your link was bad, here's the real one/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMwtmvrzK1g

Pretty damning if it is authentic as to time and date.

We consistently hear that London has more cameras than any other locale on earth (tho it seems to do little to stop muslim crime sprees).

I'd expect Paris to be the same.

And although I would expect that doctoring a video to show a person on Notre Dame's roof would not be difficult, obtaining any pics from this high angle would seem to be unlikely for a tourist to obtain.

Where could a video like this be shot from ?

Are there skyscrapers nearby ?