North Korea's internet under mass cyber attack?

Started by Solar, December 22, 2014, 12:32:40 PM

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Internet connectivity between North Korea and the outside world, though never robust to begin with, is currently suffering one of its worst outages in recent memory, suggesting that the country may be enduring a mass cyber attack a few days after President Obama warned the US would launch a "proportional response" to North Korea's hack against Sony.

"I haven't seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis at the cybsecurity firm Dyn Research, according to Martyn Williams of the excellent blog North Korea Tech. Madory explained, "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn't be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently."

While it's entirely possible that this is due to run-of-the-mill maintenance or technical issues, it's hard to miss that the outage comes just days after President Obama condemned North Korea as responsible for the massive cyberattack against Sony and pledged a "proportional" US response. Two other cybersecurity firms confirmed to the New York Times that North Korea's is collapsing amid an apparent cyber attack.
http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7433873/north-korea-internet-down
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Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2014, 12:32:40 PM


Internet connectivity between North Korea and the outside world, though never robust to begin with, is currently suffering one of its worst outages in recent memory, suggesting that the country may be enduring a mass cyber attack a few days after President Obama warned the US would launch a "proportional response" to North Korea's hack against Sony.

"I haven't seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis at the cybsecurity firm Dyn Research, according to Martyn Williams of the excellent blog North Korea Tech. Madory explained, "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn't be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently."

While it's entirely possible that this is due to run-of-the-mill maintenance or technical issues, it's hard to miss that the outage comes just days after President Obama condemned North Korea as responsible for the massive cyberattack against Sony and pledged a "proportional" US response. Two other cybersecurity firms confirmed to the New York Times that North Korea's is collapsing amid an apparent cyber attack.
http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7433873/north-korea-internet-down

                                                 
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Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2014, 12:32:40 PM


Internet connectivity between North Korea and the outside world, though never robust to begin with, is currently suffering one of its worst outages in recent memory, suggesting that the country may be enduring a mass cyber attack a few days after President Obama warned the US would launch a "proportional response" to North Korea's hack against Sony.

"I haven't seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis at the cybsecurity firm Dyn Research, according to Martyn Williams of the excellent blog North Korea Tech. Madory explained, "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn't be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently."

While it's entirely possible that this is due to run-of-the-mill maintenance or technical issues, it's hard to miss that the outage comes just days after President Obama condemned North Korea as responsible for the massive cyberattack against Sony and pledged a "proportional" US response. Two other cybersecurity firms confirmed to the New York Times that North Korea's is collapsing amid an apparent cyber attack.
http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7433873/north-korea-internet-down

This action is out of character for Obama. He has not shown the courage to take such bold actions in the past. Some pundits are suggesting NK took down the internet themselves. The motive could be the fact NK could face some serious human rights charges in the UN today and NK does not want any of it citizens knowing about this.
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TboneAgain

NK citizens never have access to what we know as the internet. Everything is state controlled. Hell, they don't even have electricity after dark.

It's unlikely that anyone here would have the capability to shut down what there is of an internet in NK. Why bother anyway? We're talking about a country that originates around 30 websites and plays host to just over 1,000 IP addresses (the US has more than 1.5 billion). Of course, there's only one ISP, which is a joint venture between a private entity and the ever-benevolent government of the People's Republic of North Korea.

The recent trouble with Sony's hacked emails may have come throught NK's rudimentary internet, but its source is elsewhere, most likely, I think, China.
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Quote from: supsalemgr on December 22, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
This action is out of character for Obama. He has not shown the courage to take such bold actions in the past. Some pundits are suggesting NK took down the internet themselves. The motive could be the fact NK could face some serious human rights charges in the UN today and NK does not want any of it citizens knowing about this.


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Solar

Quote from: supsalemgr on December 22, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
This action is out of character for Obama. He has not shown the courage to take such bold actions in the past. Some pundits are suggesting NK took down the internet themselves. The motive could be the fact NK could face some serious human rights charges in the UN today and NK does not want any of it citizens knowing about this.
Orrr...Did someone in the US take it upon themselves to take it down? As T pointed out, most NK citizens don't have access to the web, so they're probably ignorant of what has happened here..
Sony has virtually unlimited funds, so I wouldn't put it past the Japanese to get a little social Justice of their own. :biggrin:
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Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2014, 01:37:23 PM
Orrr...Did someone in the US take it upon themselves to take it down? As T pointed out, most NK citizens don't have access to the web, so they're probably ignorant of what has happened here..
Sony has virtually unlimited funds, so I wouldn't put it past the Japanese to get a little social Justice of their own. :biggrin:

Obama would not like another entity doing something that makes him look weak. Good observation. :biggrin:
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Quote from: TboneAgain on December 22, 2014, 01:07:03 PM
NK citizens never have access to what we know as the internet. Everything is state controlled. Hell, they don't even have electricity after dark.

It's unlikely that anyone here would have the capability to shut down what there is of an internet in NK. Why bother anyway? We're talking about a country that originates around 30 websites and plays host to just over 1,000 IP addresses (the US has more than 1.5 billion). Of course, there's only one ISP, which is a joint venture between a private entity and the ever-benevolent government of the People's Republic of North Korea.

The recent trouble with Sony's hacked emails may have come throught NK's rudimentary internet, but its source is elsewhere, most likely, I think, China.
It's been suggested that Iran, may have been involved. Which given that would weaken their position at the "bargaining table" where Obama is asking the Ayatollahs nicely to give up on their dream of becoming another nuclear power because they love the U.S. and the entirety of western civilization so much.  :thumbdown:

I don't know about Iran, but I do find the timing of this allegation a little more than convenient. For the first time the U.N. Human rights council, you know the same one that lets Iran act as Presiding nation over the council, North Korea's human rights violations are going to be "addressed" cough cough that's U.N. diplomat speak for "we will beat our chests, harumph, and make a big stink, give speech's about how bad that Kim Jung Un fella is, then do absolutely nothing about it. So far as any real, measurable, help for the North Korean people goes that is.  :lol:
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Quote from: Solar on December 22, 2014, 12:32:40 PM


Internet connectivity between North Korea and the outside world, though never robust to begin with, is currently suffering one of its worst outages in recent memory, suggesting that the country may be enduring a mass cyber attack a few days after President Obama warned the US would launch a "proportional response" to North Korea's hack against Sony.

"I haven't seen such a steady beat of routing instability and outages in KP before," said Doug Madory, director of Internet analysis at the cybsecurity firm Dyn Research, according to Martyn Williams of the excellent blog North Korea Tech. Madory explained, "Usually there are isolated blips, not continuous connectivity problems. I wouldn't be surprised if they are absorbing some sort of attack presently."

While it's entirely possible that this is due to run-of-the-mill maintenance or technical issues, it's hard to miss that the outage comes just days after President Obama condemned North Korea as responsible for the massive cyberattack against Sony and pledged a "proportional" US response. Two other cybersecurity firms confirmed to the New York Times that North Korea's is collapsing amid an apparent cyber attack.
http://www.vox.com/2014/12/22/7433873/north-korea-internet-down

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The local tech guy on the radio out here posted on FB about North Korea being under a massive cyber attack, and I commented, "What? Are all 3 websites down?"

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If NK is involved, then they bribed someone inside Sony to expedite the operation along.  I would think it'd take months to map Sony's network without help.  -All the while evading security-detection.  Don't be surprised if the FBI announces the arrest of a Sony-employee over the next few days.

Of course we shut down NK's internet (I hope)... :thumbsup:


 

Billy's bayonet

They have no internet, the have a state run intelligence/communication system that a few choice party officials and some military leaders are allowed to access.

If somebody did attack them good, shut down their antiquated military and drive them nuts
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Quote from: Billy's bayonet on December 22, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
They have no internet, the have a state run intelligence/communication system that a few choice party officials and some military leaders are allowed to access.

If somebody did attack them good, shut down their antiquated military and drive them nuts

Well, I didn't consider the possibility that the NKs are hooked into that vast NK array of satellites. Probably nothing we can do about that.
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Solar

Quote from: TboneAgain on December 22, 2014, 06:18:07 PM
Well, I didn't consider the possibility that the NKs are hooked into that vast NK array of satellites. Probably nothing we can do about that.
NK has a satellite? Do flies circling an outhouse count? :biggrin:
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Quote from: supsalemgr on December 22, 2014, 12:50:54 PM
This action is out of character for Obama. He has not shown the courage to take such bold actions in the past. Some pundits are suggesting NK took down the internet themselves. The motive could be the fact NK could face some serious human rights charges in the UN today and NK does not want any of it citizens knowing about this.
Now this sounds like a true Obama gambit.  Attack capitalism clandestinely, then use this "outrage" to sieze control of the internet away from the people.

Since there really is no internet for the people in NK, it doesn't seem that there's much being lost here.  The politburo doesn't give a damn about talking with the rest of the globe, lol.

It does remind one that somebody put the screws to Iran with various IT attacks.  But I'll bet my lunch money that it was Israel, all by their lonesome.

Solar

Quote from: AndyJackson on December 23, 2014, 10:12:47 AM
Now this sounds like a true Obama gambit.  Attack capitalism clandestinely, then use this "outrage" to sieze control of the internet away from the people.

Since there really is no internet for the people in NK, it doesn't seem that there's much being lost here.  The politburo doesn't give a damn about talking with the rest of the globe, lol.

It does remind one that somebody put the screws to Iran with various IT attacks.  But I'll bet my lunch money that it was Israel, all by their lonesome.
That was exactly the plan behind Fast & Furious.
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