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Title: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Ms.Independence on May 21, 2017, 04:01:29 PM
This could go either way ... perhaps only rumor, but Trump first stated that he was going to move the embassy to Jerusalem and then he backed down.  Bibi put up with Bammy for 8 long years; I'm hoping that these talks keep a positive report between the U.S. and Israel.  As for Israel being concerned about the $billions deal with the Saudi's; I agree and they have every right to be concerned.

Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of 'ultimate deal'

President Donald Trump has cast the elusive pursuit of peace between Israelis and Palestinians as the "ultimate deal." But he will step foot in Israel having offered few indications of how he plans to achieve what so many of his predecessors could not.

Trump has handed son-in-law Jared Kushner and longtime business lawyer Jason Greenblatt the assignment of charting the course toward a peace process. The White House-driven effort is a sharp shift from the practice of previous U.S. administrations that typically gave secretaries of state those responsibilities.

Kushner and Greenblatt were to accompany Trump on his two-day visit, set to begin Monday and include separate meetings with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas. Trump also planned to visit the Holocaust memorial Yad Vashem and the Western Wall, an important Jewish holy site......

......Speaking on condition of anonymity in line with protocol, he said the package also includes economic concessions and opening the border crossing between the West Bank and Jordan.

White House aides have played down expectations for significant progress on the peace process during Trump's stop, casting it as more symbolic than substantive. Yet Trump may still need to engage in some delicate diplomacy following revelations that he disclosed highly classified intelligence Israel obtained about the Islamic State group with top Russian officials, without Israel's permission.

Israel also has expressed concern about the $110 billion arms sale to Saudi Arabia that Trump announced Saturday in Riyadh. Yuval Steinitz, a senior Cabinet minister and Netanyahu confidant, called Saudi Arabia "a hostile country" and said the deal was "definitely something that should trouble us."

https://apnews.com/1bd07f6b90844163ac118f4023ab3825/Next-stop-for-Trump-is-Israel,-in-pursuit-of-'ultimate-deal'

Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 21, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
I don't see how Trump or anyone could broker peace between Israel and Palestine when the Palestinians have no interest in peace.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: supsalemgr on May 22, 2017, 04:59:21 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on May 21, 2017, 09:43:48 PM
I don't see how Trump or anyone could broker peace between Israel and Palestine when the Palestinians have no interest in peace.

Nailed it Boo! A peace deal with Palestinians is a tar baby he does not need to fight.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: quiller on May 22, 2017, 05:32:24 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 22, 2017, 04:59:21 AM
Nailed it Boo! A peace deal with Palestinians is a tar baby he does not need to fight.

Their alleged peace negotiator says the U.S. moving its embassy to Jerusalem will end any peace talks. They had a back-up plan. In case that fails they can withdraw because it's Monday.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Ms.Independence on May 22, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
Quote from: quiller on May 22, 2017, 05:32:24 AM
Their alleged peace negotiator says the U.S. moving its embassy to Jerusalem will end any peace talks. They had a back-up plan. In case that fails they can withdraw because it's Monday.

...ah...but Trump knows the 'art of the deal' and thinks that he will succeed where others have failed.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: quiller on May 22, 2017, 12:46:53 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on May 22, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
...ah...but Trump knows the 'art of the deal' and thinks that he will succeed where others have failed.

Netanyahu is probably gritting his teeth at our Senior Crass.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 22, 2017, 07:59:11 PM
Quote from: Ms.Independence on May 22, 2017, 10:11:01 AM
...ah...but Trump knows the 'art of the deal' and thinks that he will succeed where others have failed.

If he doesn't succeed it's not his fault. He's dealing with two parties and one of them will not acknowledge the other sides existence. You can't make deals with those that are willing to blow themselves and their children up.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: SkippingWithScissors on May 23, 2017, 10:52:44 AM
Honestly, I just don't see peace in my lifetime.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Solar on May 23, 2017, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: SkippingWithScissors on May 23, 2017, 10:52:44 AM
Honestly, I just don't see peace in my lifetime.
:biggrin:
That's what the Muscum have in mind, your life and it ends.
You're right though, nothing is going to change the culture of hate unless we kill them.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Possum on May 23, 2017, 03:26:36 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on May 22, 2017, 04:59:21 AM
Nailed it Boo! A peace deal with Palestinians is a tar baby he does not need to fight.
There can only be negotiations for peace after one side surrenders.
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: Cryptic Bert on May 23, 2017, 07:35:11 PM
Did anyone see Trump's meeting with the Palestinians?
Title: Re: Next stop for Trump is Israel, in pursuit of ‘ultimate deal’
Post by: quiller on May 23, 2017, 07:53:34 PM
Quote from: s3779m on May 23, 2017, 03:26:36 PM
There can only be negotiations for peace after one side surrenders.

Or is exterminated. Israel contributes. The Paleo-simians do not.