This is one to watch. Obviously Trump and the GOP have an interest with Trump going to Fayatteville yesterday for a rally.
The makeup of the district which has some of the eastern suburbs of Charlotte and and is fairly rural. However it does have a significant Black presence. The democrat has declared he supports sanctuary cities. The district has been republican for over fifty years, but has undergoing a demographic shift.
Thanks for clarifying this. Most of us don't know just how important this election is.
But the big question is. Did the GOP slip in a RINO here? I really know nothing about the candidate.
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2019, 07:59:07 AM
Thanks for clarifying this. Most of us don't know just how important this election is.
But the big question is. Did the GOP slip in a RINO here? I really know nothing about the candidate.
I don't know if he is a RINO or not. He has been in the NC legislature for some time. NC has some weird districts and this is one. I find it quite unusual a district in NC would run from Charlotte out to Fayayettville. That is why the legislature is under court order to redistrict before the 2020 elections. Gerrymandering has been an art form in NC for many years by both parties.
The importance of this race is to cut off the democrats from making gains in the state.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 10, 2019, 08:29:50 AM
I don't know if he is a RINO or not. He has been in the NC legislature for some time. NC has some weird districts and this is one. I find it quite unusual a district in NC would run from Charlotte out to Fayayettville. That is why the legislature is under court order to redistrict before the 2020 elections. Gerrymandering has been an art form in NC for many years by both parties.
The importance of this race is to cut off the democrats from making gains in the state.
Then let's hop it works. :cool:
Quote from: Solar on September 10, 2019, 07:59:07 AM
Thanks for clarifying this. Most of us don't know just how important this election is.
But the big question is. Did the GOP slip in a RINO here? I really know nothing about the candidate.
Just watched Bishop being interviewed on OANN. He is very vocal about being on the same track as POTUS. He promises he will vote with him instead of against. He seemed sincere. Gonna keep an eye on election results tonight, that's for sure.
The courts ousted the redistricting plan that was created as a result of the Census. The courts did the gerrymandering and the 9th district is made for a Democrat. It stretches from Southern Charlotte all the way to Fayettville to include the counties with some of the lowest avg household income in NC.
D Dan McCready 54.1% 47,739
R Dan Bishop 45.4% 40,039
Quote from: The Boo Man... on September 10, 2019, 05:27:33 PM
D Dan McCready 54.1% 47,739
R Dan Bishop 45.4% 40,039
Final count?
no
D Dan McCready 50.8% 63,025
R Dan Bishop 48.7% 60,376
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 447
G Allen Smith 0.2% 24
Still votes to be counted.
49.8% Dan McCready Dem 59,013
49.7% Dan Bishop GOP 58,884
in 2018 the rep won by .4%, about 900 votes.
D Dan McCready 50.5% 68,507
R Dan Bishop 48.9% 66,321
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 495
G Allen Smith 0.2% 260
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:13:47 PM ET
50.5% precincts reported
D Dan McCready 50.4% 69,150
R Dan Bishop 49% 67,165
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 502
G Allen Smith 0.2% 261
So NC is full of a bunch of idiots.
If there is good news it appears the early votes were posted first resulting in a 7000 vote lead for the democrat. Its been narrowing since
Bishop has taken a narrow lead
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:23:52 PM ET
54.7% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50% 66,099
D Dan McCready 49.4% 65,371
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 499
G Allen Smith 0.2% 253
HOLDING MY BREATH
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:31:46 PM ET
65.4% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.3% 72,682
D Dan McCready 49.2% 71,082
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 558
G Allen Smith 0.2% 275
if im right about the early votes being posted first then the dem lead by 47,000 to 40,000. since then Bishop has gathered 32,000 same day voted to 24,000 for the dem
Bishop's lead has widened a bit
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:37:46 PM ET
73.8% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.5% 79,712
D Dan McCready 48.9% 77,198
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 636
G Allen Smith 0.2% 299
50.5% Dan Bishop GOP 80,927
48.9% Dan McCready Dem 78,468
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:39:46 PM ET
77.1% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.5% 80,927
D Dan McCready 48.9% 78,468
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 646
G Allen Smith 0.2% 308
The rep easily won the district 3 race by about 24% but its hard to compare to 2018 because the rep was unopposed.
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:47:47 PM ET
79.4% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.5% 81,995
D Dan McCready 48.9% 79,437
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 652
G Allen Smith 0.2% 314
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:51:48 PM ET
85% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.7% 86,672
D Dan McCready 48.7% 83,348
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 700
G Allen Smith 0.2% 337
Bishop has continued to pick up more same day votes.
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 09:56:08 PM ET
90.2% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.8% 89,941
D Dan McCready 48.6% 86,120
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 715
G Allen Smith 0.2% 344
Right now he has a 2.2% lead while the rep only won by .4% in 2018
Expect a recount and lots of lawyering.
Quote from: ldub23 on September 10, 2019, 06:56:00 PM
Bishop has continued to pick up more same day votes.
Idub, Can you explain why he is doing better with same day votes as opposed to early votes?
Republicans always seem to do better with same day voting. It might have to do with they are generally older and more traditional.
Gotten a little closer
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 10:04:46 PM ET
93.5% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.6% 92,264
D Dan McCready 48.8% 88,833
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 741
G Allen Smith 0.2% 357
Does anyone recall any cries of voter fraud for NC? I don't.
Percent Candidate Party Votes Winner
50.6% Dan Bishop GOP 92,272 ✓
48.8% Dan McCready Dem 88,839
0.6% Other 1,098
95.2% of precincts reporting (200/210)
182,209 total votes
Bishop has pulled out to about a 4250 margin, 2.3%. Hard to see how the dem can win now.
CharlotteRaleighGreensboro
House 9Too close to call
Sep 10 2019 10:13:19 PM ET
95.8% precincts reported
R Dan Bishop 50.9% 93,725
D Dan McCready 48.6% 89,486
L Jeff Scott 0.4% 744
G Allen Smith 0.2% 359
What does this hideous close election portend for the 2020 Presidential election?
The media is going to compare this to 2016 when Trump won the district by 12%, but compared to 2018 the rep increased the margin from .4% to 2.3%. Maybe 2018 was the height of the dem tide.
Quote from: SueAnn on September 10, 2019, 07:17:02 PM
What does this hideous close election portend for the 2020 Presidential election?
ITS not as close as 2018. As far as 2020 i have no idea.
They just called it for Bishop.....
Turnout in 2018 was about 280,000. Looks like this time it will be about 190,000. Turnout will be far higher in 2020.
Y'all NC folk give us a rundown.... It's my understanding this is a stronger Dem district, so this was a statement win for us...
Quote from: ldub23 on September 10, 2019, 07:24:29 PM
Turnout in 2018 was about 280,000. Looks like this time it will be about 190,000. Turnout will be far higher in 2020.
So we won the district with low turnout?
Quote from: taxed on September 10, 2019, 07:23:58 PM
They just called it for Bishop.....
:thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Quote from: taxed on September 10, 2019, 07:26:00 PM
So we won the district with low turnout?
It would appear to be the case. Its possible dem enthusiasm has peaked.
Quote from: ldub23 on September 10, 2019, 07:27:43 PM
It would appear to be the case. Its possible dem enthusiasm has peaked.
The breakdowns will be interesting...
I wish people would realize how important voting is on all levels.
Quote from: ldub23 on September 10, 2019, 07:27:43 PM
It would appear to be the case. Its possible dem enthusiasm has peaked.
From your lips to God's ears.
Unfortunately, if the Dems have a person of color or a woman of any color in 2020....we will see the Dems remotivated.
Quote from: Killer Clouds on September 10, 2019, 07:30:35 PM
I wish people would realize how important voting is on all levels.
Midterms in my Borough are awful for turnout. The polls are practically deserted.
We already know the spin. He only won by a few thousand votes. The GOP is finished. Trump is out of political capital. It's over in 2020.
https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1171615202959339522
QuoteBREAKING: Republican Dan Bishop, who campaigned as a pro-Trump candidate, defeats Democrat Dan McCready for Congress -- despite McCready raising $3 mil more & campaigning twice as long & despite his volunteers taking down Bishop's signs at polling places in Charlotte, NC, suburbs
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1PfBrr7/EEJpnx-CVAAAs7y6.jpg)
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Quote from: taxed on September 10, 2019, 08:29:47 PM
(https://i.postimg.cc/PfZn3vTf/nc9-fg.jpg)
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AHEMM, the Trump Effect! :thumbsup:
Quote from: taxed on September 10, 2019, 07:25:25 PM
Y'all NC folk give us a rundown.... It's my understanding this is a stronger Dem district, so this was a statement win for us...
It has been GOP controlled for over 50 years. However, the growing eastern part of Charlotte is changing the mix. The more conservative western part of the district is not growing as quickly. I suspect the next redistricting will change NC #9.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 11, 2019, 05:25:10 AM
It has been GOP controlled for over 50 years. However, the growing eastern part of Charlotte is changing the mix. The more conservative western part of the district is not growing as quickly. I suspect the next redistricting will change NC #9.
Isn't this the district that a court redesigned due to gerrymandering?
Quote from: s3779m on September 11, 2019, 05:35:40 AM
Isn't this the district that a court redesigned due to gerrymandering?
The court case was about the entire state, not just one district As I posted in an earlier post, both parties have gerrymandered. However, as Obama said, "Elections have consequences". The GOP just recently won control of the entire legislautre for the first time in over 100 years. The corrections they made to districts were substantial and this generated the lawsuits.
Quote from: supsalemgr on September 11, 2019, 05:53:07 AM
The court case was about the entire state, not just one district As I posted in an earlier post, both parties have gerrymandered. However, as Obama said, "Elections have consequences". The GOP just recently won control of the entire legislautre for the first time in over 100 years. The corrections they made to districts were substantial and this generated the lawsuits.
did the courts version make it more dim friendly?
Quote from: s3779m on September 11, 2019, 06:01:20 AM
did the courts version make it more dim friendly?
Yes. For the 9th district. The states that border SC is the poorest large geographical area n NC (you could argue a are in the NE of the state matches it). The area has about $700 a week average household income and that is not skewed by a tourist areas service industry.
Before moving to the coast, I ran a company about 50 miles away but most of the laborers came from this new district and they traveled because there were few jobs in these southern counties.. It is agriculture and once a year had a Nascar race so that people knew it existed.
If you look at the previous maps then you see they were around the wealthier Charlotte area but not the city.
Look at the changes at the bottom of the page for recent elections.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Carolina%27s_9th_congressional_district
Quote from: s3779m on September 11, 2019, 06:01:20 AM
did the courts version make it more dim friendly?
It has not been completed as of now. The democrats desire to change my district in WNC where Mark Meadows is the rep. Redistricting split Asheville/Buncombe which decimated an island of leftists in an otherwise conservative district.
Plus this was a huge win, despite the leftist courts gerrymandering the district.
Since when was a 4 point win a squeaker and a loss like the MSM is pronouncing the morning after?
Quote from: carolina73 on September 11, 2019, 09:33:27 AM
Plus this was a huge win, despite the leftist courts gerrymandering the district.
Since when was a 4 point win a squeaker and a loss like the MSM is pronouncing the morning after?
Good thing this is not Washington State, they would be finding ballot boxes for a week for the Dem's.
Quote from: carolina73 on September 11, 2019, 09:33:27 AM
Plus this was a huge win, despite the leftist courts gerrymandering the district.
Since when was a 4 point win a squeaker and a loss like the MSM is pronouncing the morning after?
Depends on how may illegals, flying voters and dead people the Dems tried to pad the rolls with, just like with Hillary it wasn't quite eough.
Quote from: carolina73 on September 11, 2019, 09:33:27 AM
Plus this was a huge win, despite the leftist courts gerrymandering the district.
Since when was a 4 point win a squeaker and a loss like the MSM is pronouncing the morning after?
It could have been a landslide win and the MSM would say it's a loss somehow.