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Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« on: February 18, 2018, 06:09:46 AM »
Can you imagine if the DOJ can get Lois Lerner to turn states evidence against Mueller for targeting Conservatives. Wow what a firestorm that would be.

Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party 


Just when you thought the Deep State swamp couldn't get any murkier and the stench any more repugnant, we are reminded by Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton in a Feb. 13 tweet of how Robert Mueller's FBI worked with Lois Lerner's IRS to target Tea Party and other groups in the run-up to the Obama re-election campaign:

@JudicialWatch lawsuit uncovered how Mueller's FBI worked with Lois Lerner's IRS to try to prosecute the very groups Obama IRS was suppressing. Another reason I don't trust Mr. Mueller – or the FBI!

The treasure trove of documents detailing the weaponizing of powerful government agencies, including Mueller's FBI, by the Obama administration to target the Tea Party was obtained by Judicial Watch as a result of court orders stemming from Freedom of Information Act lawsuits after the political targeting of the Tea Party:


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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2018, 07:11:29 AM »
Or Mueller to turn on McCON-nel?
I know there has to be a connection there somewhere.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2018, 04:28:30 AM »
Can you imagine if the DOJ can get Lois Lerner to turn states evidence against Mueller for targeting Conservatives. Wow what a firestorm that would be.

Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party 


Just when you thought the Deep State swamp couldn't get any murkier and the stench any more repugnant, we are reminded by Judicial Watch's Tom Fitton in a Feb. 13 tweet of how Robert Mueller's FBI worked with Lois Lerner's IRS to target Tea Party and other groups in the run-up to the Obama re-election campaign:

@JudicialWatch lawsuit uncovered how Mueller's FBI worked with Lois Lerner's IRS to try to prosecute the very groups Obama IRS was suppressing. Another reason I don't trust Mr. Mueller – or the FBI!

The treasure trove of documents detailing the weaponizing of powerful government agencies, including Mueller's FBI, by the Obama administration to target the Tea Party was obtained by Judicial Watch as a result of court orders stemming from Freedom of Information Act lawsuits after the political targeting of the Tea Party:


READ MORE.....
https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2018/02/mueller_worked_with_lerner_to_target_tea_party.html

I had previously read the American Thinker piece and I think it is far too soon to definitively say that Mueller was working with Lerner to target Conservative groups.  The FBI has 37,000 employees and I am sure that the FBI has agents that work together building criminal cases with the IRS, as well as other agencies.  Team Lerner obviously didn't persuade the FBI to pursue criminal charges against anyone in the Tea Party, even though I am sure they tried.

Am I being naively patriotic to still believe that most of the men and women working in our FBI are White Hats?  I think the jury's still out on both Mueller and Rosenstein, in spite of the appearances.  Consider that it is probably best to present a false flag to one's foes when conducting a counterintelligence operation, lest your real targets suspect that you may be far more clever than your public persona would appear.

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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2018, 07:21:02 AM »
I had previously read the American Thinker piece and I think it is far too soon to definitively say that Mueller was working with Lerner to target Conservative groups.  The FBI has 37,000 employees and I am sure that the FBI has agents that work together building criminal cases with the IRS, as well as other agencies.  Team Lerner obviously didn't persuade the FBI to pursue criminal charges against anyone in the Tea Party, even though I am sure they tried.

Am I being naively patriotic to still believe that most of the men and women working in our FBI are White Hats?  I think the jury's still out on both Mueller and Rosenstein, in spite of the appearances.  Consider that it is probably best to present a false flag to one's foes when conducting a counterintelligence operation, lest your real targets suspect that you may be far more clever than your public persona would appear.

Time will tell.

To even state that the FBI as a whole (37,000 employees) is corrupt is off the charts crazy. Right now the narrative is the head of the F.B.I. They have turned the FBI into a policial criminal organization. They are targeting people for policial reasons. To deny that is just as crazy as saying all of the FBI is corrupt.

The more Mueller digs the more he gets hit with his own boomerang like The Boo Man likes to say. This investigation is turning into one big joke. It is being reported now that the some of the 13 or so that Mueller indicted was just some Russian blogging trolls pitting Trump supporters against Trump haters and the NY Times, liberal Michael Moore, and the folks that attended fell for it. If I'm correct I remember something of the effect we here at CPF discussed if you go to a rally make sure it's an official rally being it from Ted Cruz or Donald Trump. I can't find the post but I'm sure I heard it here.
https://mediaequalizer.com/martin-walsh/2018/02/desperate-to-show-collusion-nyt-and-
michael-moore-exposed-by-muellers-indictment

Also, the Mueller indictment of these Russians came from information from Europe Free Radio back in 2015.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/02/18/too-funny-special-prosecutor-mueller-patched-together-much-of-his-muh-russia-indictment-from-old-news-articles/

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/stunning-mueller-patched-together-much-indictment-2015-radio-free-europe-article/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2018/02/18/the-russian-journalist-who-helped-uncover-election-meddling-is-confounded-by-the-mueller-indictments/?utm_term=.9823122cd878

This is all taking place because the FBI wanted Hillary Clinton as their boss so they can get away with their criminal activities while the hard-working ground troops of the FBI try and do their jobs.

How many lumps on the head does the FBI have to take with The Boo Man's boomerang before they realize it was them that caused their own problems.

The transformation of the United States of America began under Obama and it will end with the Mueller investigation.

IMO...Many of the leaders of the FBI are as corrupt as the mob itself. Like you hear on so many of the FBI specials about the mob...you cut the head of the snake off and the body will die with it. You put the heads of the FBI that are corrupt behind bars for life and the rest of the corrupt body will die with them and IMO Mueller is a snake in the grass.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2018, 08:02:58 AM »
It's always been well established that there is a great number of outstanding agents in the FBI, probably 99.9 %.  Nobody has ever said any different, and everyone who wants to clean out the Obama - Clinton criminals, has been careful to make this point endlessly.

However, when the Obama WH gave the top 10-15 leadership slots of every agency to their fellow America-hating revolutionaries, all agencies effectively were fomenting the revolution.  The 99% had no ability to do anything differently.

And yes, one would be incredibly naive to suggest that because there are a lot of good guys out there, that they had any ability to stop the movement toward destruction.

Until Trump and a group of well-placed patriots got their shot, that is.

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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 01:35:32 PM »
It's always been well established that there is a great number of outstanding agents in the FBI, probably 99.9 %.  Nobody has ever said any different, and everyone who wants to clean out the Obama - Clinton criminals, has been careful to make this point endlessly.

However, when the Obama WH gave the top 10-15 leadership slots of every agency to their fellow America-hating revolutionaries, all agencies effectively were fomenting the revolution.  The 99% had no ability to do anything differently.

And yes, one would be incredibly naive to suggest that because there are a lot of good guys out there, that they had any ability to stop the movement toward destruction.

Until Trump and a group of well-placed patriots got their shot, that is.

I'm thinking that you have a mere handful of Obama loyalists in the higher echelon of our FBI, DOJ & Intelligence Agencies, as well as a few in various other, less significant agencies.  After this, you have "bad cops" who are going along  to get along with their bosses' agenda.
Corruption investigations of police departments and Prosecutor's offices usually will reveal a few big shots who find the weak minded, dishonest subordinates they can corrupt and bring onto their team.  Some of the underlings may even do things they know are wrong simply because they know this is what their boss wants and they want to be rewarded for their loyalty. I will be very surprised if this corruption goes very deep into the ranks.  In the case of the FBI it seems limited to the 7th Floor of the J. Egar Hoover Building.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 02:20:31 PM »
Hopefully this evidence against Mueller, and others like Uranium one, are what Trump "used" to get Mueller to do his bidding.

"Be on our team, or be on the team that goes down".

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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 02:52:39 PM »
Hopefully this evidence against Mueller, and others like Uranium one, are what Trump "used" to get Mueller to do his bidding.

"Be on our team, or be on the team that goes down".
That's reasonable.  People who have had professional working relationships with others who they have come to trust can find themselves placed in awkward and embarrassing positions when they learn they may have misplaced their trust and been unwittingly implicated in the intentional wrongdoings of such people.

Culpability sometimes does go to "intent" in such cases.  This is not to say that "intent" was a necessary element of Hillary Clinton's criminal behavior though.  So far, I haven't heard of any criminal accusations of specific FBI personnel over Uranium One; only questions raised regarding the FBI's "duty to inform".  This may fall back to what did Mueller know and when did he know it.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 02:59:58 PM »
Hopefully this evidence against Mueller, and others like Uranium one, are what Trump "used" to get Mueller to do his bidding.

"Be on our team, or be on the team that goes down".
I'm not even certain Trump had to convince Mueller of anything. Consider the fact that Mueller was never going to find dirt on Trump and Trump knew it, he let the Dims dig all they wanted, knowing quite well, in the end, all the dirt would be evidence against the left.
And it is, to date, not one bit of damning evidence points to Trump or those connected with him, no, it all points to Dim Russian collusion...

Now the Dims are in a panic because Mueller was supposed to dump the evidence right around the midterms in hopes of hurting the Right, but now they know the opposite is about to happen. :biggrin:

Dem Lawmaker Warns Mueller Against Releasing Witch Hunt Findings Before Election – Democrats Worried It Will Hurt Them

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/dem-lawmaker-warns-mueller-releasing-witch-hunt-findings-election-democrats-worried-will-hurt/
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2018, 03:53:45 PM »
I'm not even certain Trump had to convince Mueller of anything. Consider the fact that Mueller was never going to find dirt on Trump and Trump knew it, he let the Dims dig all they wanted, knowing quite well, in the end, all the dirt would be evidence against the left.
And it is, to date, not one bit of damning evidence points to Trump or those connected with him, no, it all points to Dim Russian collusion...

Now the Dims are in a panic because Mueller was supposed to dump the evidence right around the midterms in hopes of hurting the Right, but now they know the opposite is about to happen. :biggrin:

Dem Lawmaker Warns Mueller Against Releasing Witch Hunt Findings Before Election – Democrats Worried It Will Hurt Them

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/dem-lawmaker-warns-mueller-releasing-witch-hunt-findings-election-democrats-worried-will-hurt/
One of the most important things that everyone in a Leadership position knows is that your people are your most valuable resource.  You must trust your people. If Mueller is doing his job, he would naturally give his trusted members of his team the benefit of the doubt.  A Leader would have to believe their was a criminal conspiracy going on with those in positions of public trust.  You don't immediately "go there".

However, Mueller may be now unraveling this criminal conspiracy within his own beloved agency.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2018, 03:56:14 PM »
Here is what happened in the Govt, include the FBI and a few other "Letter" Law Enforcement agencies....that I remember.  The REAL cops, the ones who used to go after the REAL criminals were aging, they started retiring in the Mid-90's and in some cases they were given 'early outs'  THIS WAS UNDER THE CLINTON Admin. Those competant, capable people were replaced by "Politically correct up an commers"  there was a big rush to promote these people into Mid level managerial positions, Giving them "resume builders" for the day they would get the top management slots.

Same same US Attorney's office. I remember BOTH Joe DeGenova (Very Competant and capable) and Eric Holder (A primping Posuer)  Holder got the key position of being in charge of the Narcotics division of the Washington DC US Attorneys office and long story short, Fkd it all up. Then he became Chief USAO for DC, and that was the begining of the end as far as I was concerned. The kicker here was a Lot of GOOD USAO's were leaving going into private practise or working for big name corps because of Holder.

I can imagine how bad things got in the Obamao years, as HEAD OF THE DOJ, Holder had time to ensconse his people in Both the USAO's office and the FBI.  I imagine the whole DOJ & FBI is riddled with these people from Field agents to Mid Level managers to include of course complete Aholes like Comey.

Its going to be hard getting these people out.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2018, 04:34:44 PM »
Here is what happened in the Govt, include the FBI and a few other "Letter" Law Enforcement agencies....that I remember.  The REAL cops, the ones who used to go after the REAL criminals were aging, they started retiring in the Mid-90's and in some cases they were given 'early outs'  THIS WAS UNDER THE CLINTON Admin. Those competant, capable people were replaced by "Politically correct up an commers"  there was a big rush to promote these people into Mid level managerial positions, Giving them "resume builders" for the day they would get the top management slots.

Same same US Attorney's office. I remember BOTH Joe DeGenova (Very Competant and capable) and Eric Holder (A primping Posuer)  Holder got the key position of being in charge of the Narcotics division of the Washington DC US Attorneys office and long story short, Fkd it all up. Then he became Chief USAO for DC, and that was the begining of the end as far as I was concerned. The kicker here was a Lot of GOOD USAO's were leaving going into private practise or working for big name corps because of Holder.

I can imagine how bad things got in the Obamao years, as HEAD OF THE DOJ, Holder had time to ensconse his people in Both the USAO's office and the FBI.  I imagine the whole DOJ & FBI is riddled with these people from Field agents to Mid Level managers to include of course complete Aholes like Comey.

Its going to be hard getting these people out.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2018, 04:46:33 AM »
Here is what happened in the Govt, include the FBI and a few other "Letter" Law Enforcement agencies....that I remember.  The REAL cops, the ones who used to go after the REAL criminals were aging, they started retiring in the Mid-90's and in some cases they were given 'early outs'  THIS WAS UNDER THE CLINTON Admin. Those competant, capable people were replaced by "Politically correct up an commers"  there was a big rush to promote these people into Mid level managerial positions, Giving them "resume builders" for the day they would get the top management slots.

Same same US Attorney's office. I remember BOTH Joe DeGenova (Very Competant and capable) and Eric Holder (A primping Posuer)  Holder got the key position of being in charge of the Narcotics division of the Washington DC US Attorneys office and long story short, Fkd it all up. Then he became Chief USAO for DC, and that was the begining of the end as far as I was concerned. The kicker here was a Lot of GOOD USAO's were leaving going into private practise or working for big name corps because of Holder.

I can imagine how bad things got in the Obamao years, as HEAD OF THE DOJ, Holder had time to ensconse his people in Both the USAO's office and the FBI.  I imagine the whole DOJ & FBI is riddled with these people from Field agents to Mid Level managers to include of course complete Aholes like Comey.

Its going to be hard getting these people out.

Excellent observation and that is why the "deep state" cannot be dismantled overnight. The heads of departments will have to search these snakes out. Fire those they can (not always easy) and reassign other to the mail room with no access or responsibility. I remind folks once again - patience is a virtue.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2018, 07:46:09 AM »
Excellent observation and that is why the "deep state" cannot be dismantled overnight. The heads of departments will have to search these snakes out. Fire those they can (not always easy) and reassign other to the mail room with no access or responsibility. I remind folks once again - patience is a virtue.
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Re: Mueller Worked with Lerner to Target Tea Party
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2018, 05:33:00 PM »
So now it appears that an awful lot of pertinent (to investigations) documents have been stolen from the govt agencies and taken to Obama's library, which really won't have documents, but there's no actual permanent solution to this yet, so they are being stored temporarily in a rickety old warehouse by some tiny vendor, where they will certainly be exposed to a high probability of fire and/or flood and/or rats eating them.

If anybody's serious about these investigations, they should raid the shit out this place just like Manafort's bedroom, take everything that shouldn't have been taken from govt facilities, and leave the rest in a giant heap on the floor.

They may have more evidence than they need without this stuff, but this should be done just based on principle.  Sick of these bastards getting away with every cheesy trick in the book, 24/7.

 

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