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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2020, 07:42:55 AM »
An interesting take on China Us relations. The Chinese see war as an inevitably, but only because they see the world turning against them, all being lead by Trump.
This is article 5 in a series of 10 articles, each and everyone very long as is this one. Here's a snippet.
I give credit to the author for walking a tightrope and still finding a way to get information out without pissing off the CCP. So far.

The report warned that China’s overseas investments, especially the ambitious Belt and Road Initiative, could fall victim to rising anti-Chinese sentiments, while the US may accelerate efforts to counter Beijing’s expanding clout by increasing financial and military support for regional allies.
While the think tank declined to confirm the Reuters story, many international relations analysts shared similar bleak assessments of US-China relations.
“We are already in an all-around confrontation with the US, which sees both sides at odds on almost every front – from trade and tech tensions, military, ideological and geopolitical rivalry, to political and legal battles over the coronavirus,” Zhu said. “The prospects for bilateral ties are deeply worrying and we are just one step away from a new cold war.”

With much of the world still in the grip of the Covid-19 pandemic, Beijing’s critics and opponents, led by the US, have upped the ante in the blame-shifting game as they line up to pursue an international investigation into the origins of the deadly virus.
The coronavirus has also derailed most of China’s diplomatic agenda for the first half of the year, with Xi’s planned state visits to Japan and South Korea postponed.
Meanwhile, China’s relations with the European Union have become more tense, though Beijing managed to dodge a bullet at this week’s World Health Assembly, which adopted a mildly worded resolution drafted by the EU to carry out an independent inquiry into different countries’ response to the outbreak at “an appropriate time”.
But a growing number of European countries have pushed back against China’s diplomatic assertiveness and followed Washington’s lead to press Beijing for greater transparency over the coronavirus.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3085321/destined-conflict-xi-jinping-donald-trump-and-thucydides-trap
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2020, 03:09:07 PM »
How will this civil war look?

US to React Strongly If Beijing Moves Ahead with Hong Kong National Security Law: Trump

President Donald Trump said on May 21 the United States would react strongly if China follows through on plans to impose a new national security law on Hong Kong. Critics say the move would further erode the city’s autonomy and allow the regime to crack down on dissident voices under the pretext of safeguarding security.

Zhang Yesui, spokesperson for the regime’s rubber-stamp legislature, the National People’s Congress (NPC), announced on May 21 evening that the body will propose a bill to “establish and improve the legal system and enforcement mechanism for safeguarding the national security in the Hong Kong Special Administrative Region.”

“If it happens, we’ll address that issue very strongly,” Trump told reporters Thursday before leaving the White House.

Further details of the law will be released on Friday, Zhang added. Hong Kong media outlets, citing insider sources, reported that the legislation would ban secession, terrorism, foreign interference, and other external interference that could pose threats to the regime’s power. The measure could be headed for a formal vote next Thursday and take effect as early as August, local media reported.

The bill, which would allow the regime to bypass Hong Kong’s legislature, is all but guaranteed to be passed, given the NPC’s role as a ceremonial rubber-stamp that approves directives promulgated by the Chinese Communist Party.

Pro-democracy lawmakers and activists in Hong Kong condemned Beijing’s latest move and pledged protest action.

“This is the end of Hong Kong,” said local lawmaker Dennis Kwok at a press conference on Thursday night. “This is the end of ‘One Country, Two Systems,’” he said, referring to the framework Beijing promised to rule Hong Kong upon the city’s transfer of sovereignty from British to Chinese rule in 1997.

“Make no mistake about it—I foresee that the international status for Hong Kong as a city, an international city will be gone very soon,” Kwok continued. “And that has all to do with Beijing’s walking back and breaching its promise to the Hong Kong people.”
https://www.theepochtimes.com/us-to-react-strongly-if-beijing-moves-ahead-with-hong-kong-national-security-law-trump_3359722.html
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2020, 04:36:44 PM »
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2020, 05:09:40 PM »
An interesting take on China Us relations. The Chinese see war as an inevitably, but only because they see the world turning against them, all being lead by Trump.
This is article 5 in a series of 10 articles, each and everyone very long as is this one. Here's a snippet.
I give credit to the author for walking a tightrope and still finding a way to get information out without pissing off the CCP. So far.

The report warned that China’s overseas investments, especially the ambitious Belt and Road Initiative, could fall victim to rising anti-Chinese sentiments, while the US may accelerate efforts to counter Beijing’s expanding clout by increasing financial and military support for regional allies.
While the think tank declined to confirm the Reuters story, many international relations analysts shared similar bleak assessments of US-China relations.
“We are already in an all-around confrontation with the US, which sees both sides at odds on almost every front – from trade and tech tensions, military, ideological and geopolitical rivalry, to political and legal battles over the coronavirus,” Zhu said. “The prospects for bilateral ties are deeply worrying and we are just one step away from a new cold war.”

With much of the world still in the grip of the Covid-19 pandemic, Beijing’s critics and opponents, led by the US, have upped the ante in the blame-shifting game as they line up to pursue an international investigation into the origins of the deadly virus.
The coronavirus has also derailed most of China’s diplomatic agenda for the first half of the year, with Xi’s planned state visits to Japan and South Korea postponed.
Meanwhile, China’s relations with the European Union have become more tense, though Beijing managed to dodge a bullet at this week’s World Health Assembly, which adopted a mildly worded resolution drafted by the EU to carry out an independent inquiry into different countries’ response to the outbreak at “an appropriate time”.
But a growing number of European countries have pushed back against China’s diplomatic assertiveness and followed Washington’s lead to press Beijing for greater transparency over the coronavirus.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/diplomacy/article/3085321/destined-conflict-xi-jinping-donald-trump-and-thucydides-trap
Wasn't too long ago china could not have cared less what the U.S. thought. Enough dems and rinos could be bought off and the rest talked tough and that was it. Now china pays attention to every word Trump says. I really don't think china will do anything stupid, they are a very old country and very patient, I would image they will try to wait out Trump.   

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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2020, 05:16:14 PM »
Wasn't too long ago china could not have cared less what the U.S. thought. Enough dems and rinos could be bought off and the rest talked tough and that was it. Now china pays attention to every word Trump says. I really don't think china will do anything stupid, they are a very old country and very patient, I would image they will try to wait out Trump.   
Sooo True! They know Trump means business. I think the CCP is making these moves quickly before the world turns against them.
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #20 on: May 22, 2020, 01:20:46 PM »
Sabre Rattling...

Esper: US Watching China ‘Very Carefully’

A Chinese Communist Party-run newspaper last week quoted a Chinese military expert saying training exercises “can turn into action any time” if Taiwanese officials try to secede from China.

Would such an attack would be an act of war?

“Look, we watch China very carefully. They should be cautious about they do. We regard any type of military action like that very gravely,” Esper responded.


The top military official stressed later that America will “defend our allies.”

Taiwan has seen broad support from the United States, including the establishment in 1979 of substantial relations between America and Taiwan.

https://www.theepochtimes.com/esper-us-watching-china-very-carefully_3361031.html
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2020, 05:05:26 PM »
Somebody in the CCP really fcked up....Hong Kong is a cash cow for "the party" Lots of Beijing big wigs have tons of cash invested in there as well.
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2020, 05:12:15 PM »
Somebody in the CCP really fcked up....Hong Kong is a cash cow for "the party" Lots of Beijing big wigs have tons of cash invested in there as well.
That's what puzzles me as well, they're shooting themselves in both Leftist feet.
China will not benefit monetarily, they're killing Hong Kong's  economy and will have to deal with feeding millions more.
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2020, 03:28:33 PM »

For those not following Hong Kong, their leader Carrie Lam just sold them out to the Communist CCP.

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Re: More China Panic
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2020, 07:38:00 PM »
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1264303685699428352.html

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Paper kitty kat....
They can't even protect their merchant ships, what makes them think they can control the South China sea?
They better watch their step or they won't have a pot to piss in! I feel sorry for the Chinese people having to suffer under these morons.
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Re: More China Panic
« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2020, 07:39:56 PM »
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3085662/taiwan-fire-missile-programme-tsai-puts-focus-asymmetric

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Taiwan is expected to step up the development of missiles able to strike mainland China in the face of growing military threats by Beijing.
Taiwanese President Tsai Ing-wen vowed during her inaugural speech on Wednesday to bolster the self-ruled island’s defences by emphasising the development of asymmetrical warfare, apparently foreseeing bumpy cross-strait ties in her next four years in office.
In asymmetrical warfare, one side uses non-traditional weapons against a more powerful enemy. Analysts said a boost to Taiwan’s missile programme would mean the island could brace for the mainland’s first advance before the United States came to its rescue.

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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2020, 07:53:25 PM »
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/military/article/3085662/taiwan-fire-missile-programme-tsai-puts-focus-asymmetric

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China has absolutely no experience in warfare. It would be a 3 day routing of their forces and they'd be essentially landlocked after our having taken out their entire air capabilities.
And China is well aware of this and it scares the shit out of the CCP.
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« Reply #29 on: May 24, 2020, 05:01:26 AM »
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1264303685699428352.html

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Paper kitty kat....

This is what happens when we don't have our hands in the pockets of the Chinese. It puzzles the crap out of them and they run around confused like a chicken without its head.

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