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elmerfudd

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more bad economic news
« on: March 01, 2012, 06:35:59 AM »
Paradoxically, it's bad because it's good. Unemployment is down, the lowest it's been in a few years.  Now all of us on this board know that the parasitic government workers who calculate that rate smoke the books when a Dim is in office, but the average voter doesn't know that.  I also heard that Chrysler's sales are up something like 46% over some comparable time period last year, new business starts are up, more business lending is taking place, etc. etc.  It made me so sick I turned the radio to a rap station.  Anyway, we've got to get busy and stamp this out!  We've got to keep this economy in the tank until at least election day!  Our country's future depends on it!  Who wil join with me to sabotage this alleged recovery?

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #1 on: March 01, 2012, 06:42:30 AM »
Just as weak as all your other efforts to appear conservative. Golly, you're dull!

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2012, 06:51:11 AM »
Just as weak as all your other efforts to appear conservative. Golly, you're dull!

But you never fail to respond.

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2012, 06:57:34 AM »
But you never fail to respond.

Because you're stupid, and deserve it.

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #4 on: March 01, 2012, 07:05:26 AM »
:)
Because you're stupid, and deserve it.

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #5 on: March 01, 2012, 07:20:41 AM »
Paradoxically, it's bad because it's good. Unemployment is down, the lowest it's been in a few years.  Now all of us on this board know that the parasitic government workers who calculate that rate smoke the books when a Dim is in office, but the average voter doesn't know that.  I also heard that Chrysler's sales are up something like 46% over some comparable time period last year, new business starts are up, more business lending is taking place, etc. etc.  It made me so sick I turned the radio to a rap station.  Anyway, we've got to get busy and stamp this out!  We've got to keep this economy in the tank until at least election day!  Our country's future depends on it!  Who wil join with me to sabotage this alleged recovery?
Actually the unemployment rate measures the ratio of those employed in any capacity to those not employed - but still searching for work. Usually those still looking for work are judged by counting existing and new unemployment claims. Of course that under counts or ignores, persons whose unemployment has expired (been out of work over two years), persons who would like to work, but have retired (workers between 62 and 65) and, of course the underemployed (part time workers or temporary workers).  A better measurement would be the total working age population as compared to those actually full time employed. I would help you with those figures, but for some reason BLS stopped making that comparison about two years ago/sarc. 
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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #6 on: March 01, 2012, 07:31:40 AM »
Elmer, with all due respect, Sir, I would point out that anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size, will believe not one iota of any statistic emanating from the Glorious Government. It exists to lie and lies to exist.
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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #7 on: March 01, 2012, 07:32:12 AM »
Actually the unemployment rate measures the ratio of those employed in any capacity to those not employed - but still searching for work. Usually those still looking for work are judged by counting existing and new unemployment claims. Of course that under counts or ignores, persons whose unemployment has expired (been out of work over two years), persons who would like to work, but have retired (workers between 62 and 65) and, of course the underemployed (part time workers or temporary workers).  A better measurement would be the total working age population as compared to those actually full time employed. I would help you with those figures, but for some reason BLS stopped making that comparison about two years ago/sarc.
I am sure Obama made them quit.  I can't wait till he gets his head handed to him this November and Romney gets in there and makes them start back doing it. 

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #8 on: March 01, 2012, 07:33:09 AM »
Elmer, with all due respect, Sir, I would point out that anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size, will believe not one iota of any statistic emanating from the Glorious Government. It exists to lie and lies to exist.

Yes, but only when the Dims are in office.  Just let the Pubs get back in there and truth will out!

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #9 on: March 01, 2012, 07:35:42 AM »
Elmer, with all due respect, Sir, I would point out that anyone with an IQ greater than their shoe size, will believe not one iota of any statistic emanating from the Glorious Government. It exists to lie and lies to exist.

Off topic, I know, but I would like your thoughts on Medicare.  Socialist conspiracy to enslave Americans?  Or good healthcare program for senior citizens?  Or something else?  I will be enrolling in it in four years myself, assuming I have not croaked and we're not all speaking Arabic.  (4 more years of Obozo bowing and scraping to those sand monkeys virtually guarantees we all better start learning Arabic.)
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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #10 on: March 01, 2012, 08:26:48 AM »
Off topic, I know, but I would like your thoughts on Medicare.  Socialist conspiracy to enslave Americans?  Or good healthcare program for senior citizens?  Or something else?  I will be enrolling in it in four years myself, assuming I have not croaked and we're not all speaking Arabic.  (4 more years of Obozo bowing and scraping to those sand monkeys virtually guarantees we all better start learning Arabic.)
It's like Social Security. It's one of those entitlement programs that will put us in the fiscal graveyard.
Because politicians over promised. Stole all the money for political purpose. And then borrowed like hell to make it up
It was set up wrong in the first place, because the people who set it up didn't understand either economics or humanity.
The right way would have been to set up medical savings accounts free from government control, and under the control of the people using them. But that wouldn't have served the purpose of the politicians which is ALWAYS to make you dependent on them. Think of the difference it would have made had they set Social Security up as a 401K program. It would have engendered an entirely different attitude toward Business, Tax policy, Corporate crime, Savings and Investment, Government spending, etc. etc.. Or a least that's my belief.
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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2012, 08:38:48 AM »
It's like Social Security. It's one of those entitlement programs that will put us in the fiscal graveyard.
Because politicians over promised. Stole all the money for political purpose. And then borrowed like hell to make it up
It was set up wrong in the first place, because the people who set it up didn't understand either economics or humanity.
The right way would have been to set up medical savings accounts free from government control, and under the control of the people using them. But that wouldn't have served the purpose of the politicians which is ALWAYS to make you dependent on them. Think of the difference it would have made had they set Social Security up as a 401K program. It would have engendered an entirely different attitude toward Business, Tax policy, Corporate crime, Savings and Investment, Government spending, etc. etc.. Or a least that's my belief.

You could be right.  It's a case of the road not taken, so we'll never know.  But I do know this with respect to social security. It was not created because people were doing a good job of providing for themselves in their golden years and the government just wanted to make sure it continued, and it has made the difference between subsistence level living and grinding poverty for many an elderly American, including, I bet, some of your relatives.  And mine, too.  Needs tweaking?  Yes.  Abolishment? No. 

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2012, 09:03:05 AM »
You could be right.  It's a case of the road not taken, so we'll never know.  But I do know this with respect to social security. It was not created because people were doing a good job of providing for themselves in their golden years and the government just wanted to make sure it continued, and it has made the difference between subsistence level living and grinding poverty for many an elderly American, including, I bet, some of your relatives.  And mine, too.  Needs tweaking?  Yes.  Abolishment? No.
Actually Social Security was set up so that the socialists - who infested the Roosevelt administration - could tax EVERYONE - to fund their socialist schemes, without causing open revolt during the Depression. If you know anything about Social Security, it was not set up to provide more than subsistence level living until the 60's. And originally it was set at 65 because Bismarck in Germany set it at 65 , and he did so because so few people reached that age.
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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #13 on: March 01, 2012, 09:08:52 AM »
Actually Social Security was set up so that the socialists - who infested the Roosevelt administration - could tax EVERYONE - to fund their socialist schemes, without causing open revolt during the Depression. If you know anything about Social Security, it was not set up to provide more than subsistence level living until the 60's. And originally it was set at 65 because Bismarck in Germany set it at 65 , and he did so because so few people reached that age.

Okay.  If you say so. 

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Re: more bad economic news
« Reply #14 on: March 02, 2012, 09:50:41 AM »
BTW, here are some charts on the drop on total work force as compared to the % rate employed:
http://blog.american.com/2012/03/the-economic-case-against-obamanomics-in-13-charts/
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