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Title: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 13, 2017, 02:47:53 PM
The victims were seven years old.

Seven.

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  Detroit — A Detroit emergency room physician was charged Wednesday with mutilating the genitalia of two 7-year-old girls in what is believed to be the first case of its kind brought under federal law.

Jumana Nagarwala of Livonia was charged with female genital mutilation, a five-year felony, and transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, a 10-year felony, according to a complaint unsealed Thursday in U.S. District Court.

“According to the complaint, despite her oath to care for her patients, Dr. Nagarwala is alleged to have performed horrifying acts of brutality on the most vulnerable victims,” Acting Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco said in a statement. “The Department of Justice is committed to stopping female genital mutilation in this country, and will use the full power of the law to ensure that no girls suffer such physical and emotional abuse.”

Nagarwala was arrested Wednesday night and arraigned in federal court Thursday.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/13/doctor-charged-genital-mutilation/100416734/

May they put her in general population...and pass out knives to everyone else.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2017, 03:25:33 PM
To think, libs support the idea of Sharia on our shores. :angry:
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 13, 2017, 03:38:38 PM
To think, libs support the idea of Sharia on our shores. :angry:

(http://media.fotki.com/1_p,rtdkswbqbrgqdkwxbqfqsbrwqdbw,vi/brwrrbfqwxrbdkwbrrkxbrwbqgtbb/1/1595431/13696380/20170320561ea5ea_large-vi.jpg)

Muslims don't hate Christians, just ask them. Muslims aren't serious about killing every Jew on the planet...just ask them. Muslims aren't a sadistic death cult bound by centuries of interbreeding among people kept ignorant and riled by "leaders" too vile to deserve the title, just....

Ah, fuggedit.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 13, 2017, 03:45:26 PM
Of course, not everybody's thrilled with muslim militancy...even other Muslims. I got a smile out of seeing CAIR is in on this.

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A man trying to impose what he calls "the civil part of the sharia law" in the Cedar-Riverside neighborhood of Minneapolis has sparked anger among local residents and Muslim leaders.

Abdullah Rashid, 22, a Georgia native who moved to Cedar-Riverside last year, has been making the rounds in the Somali-dominated neighborhood, telling people not to drink, use drugs or interact with the opposite sex. If he sees Muslim women he believes are dressed inappropriately, he approaches them and suggests they should wear a jilbab, a long, flowing garment. And he says he's recruiting others to join the effort.

But local Muslim leaders are sounding the alarm. They are working to stop Rashid's group, General Presidency of the Religious Affairs and Welfare of the Ummah, and have notified Minneapolis police, who say he's being banned from a Cedar-Riverside property. Some say the group is preying on vulnerable young Muslims in a community that has dealt with national scrutiny around radicalization and terrorism.

"What he's doing is wrong and doesn't reflect the community at all," said Jaylani Hussein, executive director of the Minnesota chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR).

http://www.startribune.com/minneapolis-muslims-protest-sharia-vigilante-patrolling-in-cedar-riverside-area/419321224/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 13, 2017, 05:22:56 PM
If CAIR is what they say they are they would be speaking out against this as well as that crazy anti Semite Keith Ellison.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 14, 2017, 03:10:53 AM
If CAIR is what they say they are they would be speaking out against this as well as that crazy anti Semite Keith Ellison.

Nothing yet, although they did note (very, very briefly!) the death of that muslim judge.

https://www.cair.com/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: walkstall on April 14, 2017, 04:44:22 AM
Nothing yet, although they did note (very, very briefly!) the death of that muslim judge.

https://www.cair.com/

Now we know she was black, was she?
A African-American-Muslim
A Muslim-African-American
A African-Muslim-American
A American-African-Muslim
A American-Muslim-African
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 14, 2017, 05:31:06 AM
The alleged suicide was both muslim and black, yes, but offhand I can't recall the origin of the alleged doctor who butchered these two (and probably more) children.

UPDATED - PHOTO HERE

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/13/doctor-charged-genital-mutilation/100416734/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Bronx on April 14, 2017, 05:38:28 AM
Hey plan parenthood don't get any ideas....!  I think I seen a whole bunch of light bulbs going on over at plan parenthood.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 14, 2017, 05:46:35 AM
Hey plan parenthood don't get any ideas....!  I think I seen a whole bunch of light bulbs going on over at plan parenthood.

 :confused:
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 15, 2017, 04:45:11 AM
The two girls in question are now in protective custody in Minnesota, but now the FBI admits that many more girls were involved.

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The FBI said Nagarwala, 44, is a member of a cultural community that believes in the practice but that she denied performing it when interviewed by agents. She is charged with genital mutilation, making false statements and other crimes and remains in custody pending a Monday court hearing.

In a court filing, the FBI said many more girls have told investigators that Nagarwala performed procedures on their genitals. Acting U.S. Assistant Attorney General Kenneth Blanco called the procedures "horrifying acts of brutality on the most vulnerable victims."

Dr. Mohammed Arsiwala, president and CEO of Michigan Urgent Care and board member of the Michigan State Medical Society, said he knows of Nagarwala and confirmed she is a member of the community. He said he left the community after learning of the practices.

"This is absolutely not needed — there's no scientific basis at all for it," said Arsiwala, who said he has shared his concerns through resolutions presented to the state medical group and Wayne County Medical Society, of which he is a former president.

http://www.tbo.com/ap/national/protection-petitions-filed-for--girls-in-mutilation-case-ap_nationala17066e586dc47e88278114f68145161

Nothing yet on the CAIR site. I am ever so shocked and dismayed....although in a Google search I did find this....

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/pages/site/cair-questions.aspx
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 15, 2017, 09:10:33 AM
Like most other catagory crimes in America, The Majority of crimes go UNREPORTED. Thus, I imagine this is only the tip of the iceberg, likely many more mutilations across the country done by so called Muslim Doctors all secret and hush hush like.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 17, 2017, 12:10:47 PM
The child-butchering "doctor" has been ordered held without bond pending trial.

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Detroit — A Detroit emergency room physician charged with mutilating the genitalia of two 7-year-old Minnesota girls is dangerous and a flight risk, a federal magistrate judge said Monday, while ordering her jailed pending trial.

The decision in the case against Dr. Jumana Nagarwala capped a tense 90-minute hearing in front of a standing-room-only crowd in federal court that shed light on a controversial medical procedure and a small sect of Shia Muslims in Metro Detroit.

Nagarwala denied cutting the girls, insisting she performed a religious procedure that involved removing mucous membrane from the girls’ genitalia so their family members could bury the material in the ground.

“There is clear and convincing evidence that (Nagarwala) poses a danger to the community,” U.S. Magistrate Judge Mona Majzoub said Monday.

The hearing came less than a week after Nagarwala was charged in the first case of its kind brought under federal law.

(. . . ) Nagarwala is charged with female genital mutilation, a five-year felony, lying to federal investigators and transportation with intent to engage in criminal sexual activity, a felony punishable by 10 years to life, according to a complaint unsealed Thursday in U.S. District Court.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/17/female-genital-mutilation-doctor/100563870/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: supsalemgr on April 17, 2017, 12:21:58 PM
The child-butchering "doctor" has been ordered held without bond pending trial.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/17/female-genital-mutilation-doctor/100563870/

It is a good start in not letting Sharia law get its nose under the tent.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 17, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
It is a good start in not letting Sharia law get its nose under the tent.

Not in this instance, but Islam has had its nose under Michigan's tent for some time, in both Dearborn and also now in Hamtramk (pronounced ham-TRAM-mick). A second major mosque is also underway in northern suburban Detroit, and another proposed for Pittsfield Township near Ann Arbor.

Transporting across state lines makes Dr. Clippy a registered sex offender and unable legally to be in contact with children. In her culture this is meaningless. She will re-offend.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on April 19, 2017, 07:26:08 PM
Does Kim Jong Un need a personal physician?
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 19, 2017, 07:56:55 PM
Does Kim Jong Un need a personal physician?

He needs a diet and preferably a double tap to the head.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on April 19, 2017, 08:03:15 PM
He needs a diet and preferably a double tap to the head.

I was suggesting Dr. Nagarwala.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 19, 2017, 09:10:13 PM
I was suggesting Dr. Nagarwala.

 :lol: :lol: :lol:

Without Anesthesia.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 20, 2017, 02:54:30 AM
Breitbart had this story today that most U.S. media have hidden her Islamic background. As usual the lamestream press runs interference for the enemies of decency.

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  The establishment media is hiding the dramatic news that President Donald Trump’s Department of Justice has announced a national campaign to eradicate the imported practice of Female Genital Mutilation.

By ignoring the imported FGM practice, the TV networks “are guilty of aiding and abetting violence against women out of a politically correct fueled fear of offending Muslims,” says an April 18 statement by the Media Research Center and ACT for America.

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/18/media-ignores-imported-female-genital-mutilation/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 21, 2017, 02:59:13 PM
More arrests have been made in this case, expanding it to a suburban Detroit doctor and his wife who allegedly made appointments for Dr. Snippy.

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Dr. Fakhruddin Attar is accused of letting Dr. Jumana Nagarwala perform mutilations at his Burhani Medical Clinic on Farmington Road. His wife, office manager Farida Attar, also was arrested and is accused of helping Nagarwala perform the mutilations, according to a 14-page complaint unsealed Friday in federal court.

The arrests are the latest development in the nation’s first female genital mutilation case, which is providing insight into a small, insular Muslim community in Metro Detroit and an illegal procedure performed on young girls.

The complaint solves a mystery stemming from the case by pinpointing where Nagarwala allegedly mutilated two 7-year-old girls from Minnesota earlier this year. The complaint also describes a conspiracy involving at least Nagarwala, Attar and his wife — all three are members of the Dawoodi Bohra religious community based locally out of a Farmington Hills mosque. 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/21/second-doctor-arrested-genital-mutilation/100741450/

Nah, Islam is the religion of PIECES. Just ask the survivors.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on April 21, 2017, 07:13:07 PM
I think it's safe to say Sharia has infiltrated our society. It's only going to get worse.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 22, 2017, 03:43:30 AM
I think it's safe to say Sharia has infiltrated our society. It's only going to get worse.

I've seen the cancer begin at the retail level, where permissive immigration laws allow Achmed to come in, open a convenience store (we call them party stores) and then suddenly declare sooooooo much profit he now can open a second store and needs to bring over Cousin Camelhumper to run it. After that it's exponential.

This divides into the clean stores run by India-Indians, and the places you check your legs for bugs after exiting, which are run by people whose wives wear scarves and overcharge for every item they sell. Then there are the gas stations, with the convenience stores attached. Michigan has had plenty of problems with arab-owned outlets rigging the meters on the pumps, overcharging for what is actually pumped.

But the religious side? Whoa, Nelly! Screaming like gutted cats five times a day over loudspeakers---yet sniveling at the sound of Christ's bells on Sundays. Forcing their sick views on wifebeating and other nonsense onto a public  which strove for two centuries to overcome the evils of Europe and beyond.

The cancer started in Detroit and is now around my state. We are dying from within.

Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on April 22, 2017, 07:36:54 PM
But the religious side? Whoa, Nelly! Screaming like gutted cats five times a day over loudspeakers---yet sniveling at the sound of Christ's bells on Sundays. Forcing their sick views on wifebeating and other nonsense onto a public  which strove for two centuries to overcome the evils of Europe and beyond.

Here's my theory on why they sound like that:
Most of the Muslim countries are in deserts.
The people are all dehydrated, and therefore constipated.
That's why they make that sound.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 23, 2017, 04:43:16 AM
Here's my theory on why they sound like that:
Most of the Muslim countries are in deserts.
The people are all dehydrated, and therefore constipated.
That's why they make that sound.

I frankly have never bothered to consider the justification for sounds made by a false religion, in behalf of a murderous women-hating pedophile. I assume it's like eating spicy sausage: eventually you will fart it out, all that Islam is good for, stinking up the room.

Let the church bells ring. Airing the sounds of hate?---not so much.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Rotwang on April 23, 2017, 08:51:24 PM
I've seen the cancer begin at the retail level, where permissive immigration laws allow Achmed to come in, open a convenience store (we call them party stores) and then suddenly declare sooooooo much profit he now can open a second store and needs to bring over Cousin Camelhumper to run it. After that it's exponential.

This divides into the clean stores run by India-Indians, and the places you check your legs for bugs after exiting, which are run by people whose wives wear scarves and overcharge for every item they sell. Then there are the gas stations, with the convenience stores attached. Michigan has had plenty of problems with arab-owned outlets rigging the meters on the pumps, overcharging for what is actually pumped.

But the religious side? Whoa, Nelly! Screaming like gutted cats five times a day over loudspeakers---yet sniveling at the sound of Christ's bells on Sundays. Forcing their sick views on wifebeating and other nonsense onto a public  which strove for two centuries to overcome the evils of Europe and beyond.

The cancer started in Detroit and is now around my state. We are dying from within.

AMEN
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 25, 2017, 11:45:20 PM
Prediction: absolutely nothing significant will happen, aside from choosing more discreet ways of butchering women in the name of the false god Allah.

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Detroit — An Islamic group is pushing a local mosque to denounce female genital mutilation amid a widening conspiracy involving members of the sect and the torture of girls.

The American Islamic Forum for Democracy also wants the Anjuman-e-Najmi mosque in Farmington Hills to investigate if other members are helping commit crimes against girls and women following the arrest of Dr. Jumana Nagarwala, who is the first person charged nationwide in federal court with female genital mutilation.

The mosque serves members of the Dawoodi Bohra, a small Muslim sect from India that was linked to a mutilation scandal in Australia two years ago.

Mosque leaders should turn in any other participants to FBI and Homeland Security Investigations agents, dismantle an underground network facilitating female genital mutilation and commit to fighting the controversial procedure, according to a Thursday letter addressed to the mosque by Dr. M. Zuhdi Jasser, president and founder of the Islamic forum. 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/25/mosque-faces-genital-mutilation-backlash/100914374/

Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 25, 2017, 11:48:28 PM
Here's a story about a crime-infested Detroit gas station that casually mentions the owner of this place is "out of the country," which for Detroit gas stations means gone home to the Mideast. It's just one horror story among many, aided and abetted by Islam.

Oh yeah...in Detroit you have to pay a little extra baksheesh to the cops, just to pay attention....

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/04/25/residents-offer-money-fight-gas-station-crime/100892274/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 28, 2017, 04:55:27 AM
The Michigan State Senate belatedly saw its barn door was open.....

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In the wake of an historic genital mutilation prosecution in Detroit, two Senate bills were formally introduced in Lansing today to outlaw the practice of genital cutting in Michigan, which is one of more than 20 states that does not have such a law on the books.

Under the proposed legislation, female genital mutilation would be considered a felony in Michigan, punishable by up to 15 years in prison. That's a much stiffer penalty than what the 1996 federal genital mutilation law calls for, which is five years.  If the bills becomes law, Michigan would join at least 24 other states that have passed anti-genital cutting laws over the last two decades. 

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/04/27/ban-genital-cutting-michigan-detroit/100985766/

As expected, the ambulance-chasing shyster defending this pile of trash now claims that wasn't a whole clitoris, just a membrane, and it's ALLLLLLL RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION!

I'd love to see her defend beheading infidels for wearing crosses, or sending kids out wearing explosives to kill in the name of a false god and falser death-cult pretending to be a religion.

Meanwhile, the New Yawk Slimes won't use the phrase "female genital mutilation" mainly because telling the truth about Islam is culturally offensive. (Repeat after me: "After Charlie Hebdo, we learned how to surrender!")
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: supsalemgr on April 28, 2017, 05:41:52 AM
The Michigan State Senate belatedly saw its barn door was open.....

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2017/04/27/ban-genital-cutting-michigan-detroit/100985766/

As expected, the ambulance-chasing shyster defending this pile of trash now claims that wasn't a whole clitoris, just a membrane, and it's ALLLLLLL RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION!

I'd love to see her defend beheading infidels for wearing crosses, or sending kids out wearing explosives to kill in the name of a false god and falser death-cult pretending to be a religion.

Meanwhile, the New Yawk Slimes won't use the phrase "female genital mutilation" mainly because telling the truth about Islam is culturally offensive. (Repeat after me: "After Charlie Hebdo, we learned how to surrender!")

Keep us informed as to where the democrats in MI come down on this.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on April 28, 2017, 06:35:41 PM
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In the wake of an historic genital mutilation prosecution in Detroit, two Senate bills were formally introduced in Lansing today to outlaw the practice of genital cutting in Michigan, which is one of more than 20 states that does not have such a law on the books.

Under the proposed legislation, female genital mutilation would be considered a felony in Michigan, punishable by up to 15 years in prison. That's a much stiffer penalty than what the 1996 federal genital mutilation law calls for, which is five years.  If the bills becomes law, Michigan would join at least 24 other states that have passed anti-genital cutting laws over the last two decades. 

It seems to me that FGM would already qualify as "felonious assault."
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: walkstall on April 28, 2017, 07:20:51 PM
It seems to me that FGM would already qualify as "felonious assault."

That's why your not a Dem.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 29, 2017, 04:45:14 AM
Keep us informed as to where the democrats in MI come down on this.

I haven't seen any PARTISAN Dems talking about this (except the senators making grandstand moves while also saying a law they intend to pass will somehow apply to an event in the past). Had that tactic worked on other things, we'd have no taxes and no need for senators, but who's noticing, hey.....

CAIR is silent. They would be, although the overtly religious Mussies aren't exactly screaming for Dr. Clippy's release, no matter what her shyster says is a violation of her "religious freedom."

Indictments have been handed down and a trial date will probably be set late this month or early next, if my hunch is right. Usually takes a while for the persecution to mount its offence and the lying shysters to manufacture a defense.

Unfortunately there are several local Detroit issues bubbling: disgraced former mayor Coleman Young's son is running for mayor and his own family's against it, backing someone else. This instantly sets up the hottest local election in decades and is sure to dominate the News or the Free Press until Junior's either in office or jail like his old man fully deserved.

Then there's the summer sports season when Detroiters get bone brain stupid and focus on just sports. I say this from 50 years of watching these knuckledraggers in action.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 29, 2017, 05:10:18 AM
Follow-up link.... 

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/opinion/columnists/bankole-thompson/2017/04/27/bankole-mcquade-eastern-district/100952138/

This is a background item (and opinion piece from a virulently left-wing viewpoint) regarding the absence of a formal U.S. Attorney in the same district which will probably hear this case. Note that the writer and all judges he mentions are black, and also note that McQuade was white and yet instituted the first civil right division within a U.S. District Court.

McQuade (a Democrat) was understandably mouthing the dictates of the runaway racist Hussein, yet she was also fearless enough to jail corrupt Detroit mayor Kwame Kilpatrick and others in what I frankly had thought would favor black defendants. The number of racial-percentage employees in her shop doesn't matter if she's impartial-enough and honest enough to withstand the incredible local pressure to get Jar-Jar Bling-Bling off on all charges.

As a lifelong committed conservative, I am not just mouthing pleasantries in saying, any Dem that honest is worth retaining. But McQuade got dumped when Trump came in, and that is how that stuff does go.

Anti-muslim sentiment runs high enough in "Day-twah," as it is. The prospect for a quiet trial are absolutely out of the question. TV trucks are posted at that U.S. District Courthouse, and have been every day this last week (according to my wife, who was serving on a trial there).
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 29, 2017, 10:32:24 AM
Ripples in the legal pond. Take the kids away from the parents who knowingly subject the child or children to this barbaric practice...

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  St. Paul, Minn. — Lawmakers in Minnesota and Texas are pushing to crack down on parents involved with genital cutting after an indictment against a Detroit-area doctor accused of performing the procedure on two young Minnesota girls highlighted the little-known practice.

Dr. Jumana Nagarwala is charged with female genital mutilation, conspiracy and other crimes. Prosecutors say Nagarwala performed the illegal procedure on two 7-year-old girls at a clinic in February and that the girls were brought to Michigan by their mothers. A clinic manager and his wife who are members of the same Muslim religious sect have also been charged. Nagarwala’s attorney has said she was merely performing a harmless religious ritual.

In Minnesota, a Republican lawmaker has offered a bill that could strip custody from parents who knowingly allow their children to be subjected to genital cutting. A Texas Senate committee recently passed similar legislation that clarifies religious or cultural rituals are not an acceptable defense.

(. . . ) In Michigan, prosecutors are relying on federal law to charge Nagarwala, clinic manager Dr. Fakhruddin Attar and Attar’s wife, Farida. State Sen. Patrick Colbeck introduced legislation this week that would make the practice a state felony. His bill doesn’t address parents.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/nation/2017/04/28/female-genital-mutilation-reps-parents/101048778/


This says one of the Minnesota victims has been released back to her parent-savages.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on April 29, 2017, 12:49:58 PM
So Muslim women are bringing their daughters
to a female Muslim doctor to have their clitorises removed.
Quite a case of Stockholm syndrome -
captives being brainwashed by their captors.
Abuse to the extent of mutilation is so central to Muslim culture
that even the female victims are perfectly fine with it!

It's already a federal crime to mutilate girls this way, plus,
states are passing laws with harsher penalties than federal law.
I wonder how long it will be before the Muzzies wage a lawfare offensive
claiming that the long accepted practice of circumcision
is a precedent that justifies what Muslims do to girls.

The difference is of course that circumcision
removes a mostly non-functional piece of skin,
(and results in lower incidence of some diseases)
where the Muslim practice
removes the primary sensing organ of a girl's genitals.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on April 30, 2017, 04:01:37 AM
You'd think Walker would admit when she's not just wrong but tragically wrong. Buried in this same piece is Germaine Greer trying to downplay FGM, and some bizarre comparisons between female genital mutilation and male circumcision. Oh yeah---the AIDS angle, too.

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Feminist icon Alice Walker has bemoaned the horror of female genital mutilation (FGM) for years and acknowledged in a 2006 interview that Muslim scholars “have traditionally ignored the problem.”

The author of the Pulitzer Prize-winning The Color Purple and Possessing the Secret of Joy – a novel that attacks the practice of FGM and the mythologies that sustain it – Walker told Feminist.com founder and executive director Marianne Schnall in December, 2006, that she had recently received word that “some scholars very high in the hierarchy of the Muslim world” had met in Cairo and resolved that “female genital mutilation is not to happen henceforth among Muslims.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/04/28/feminist-alice-walker-muslim-scholars-ignored-problem-female-genital-mutilation-6000-years/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 04, 2017, 03:31:29 AM
Two developments in this case. The doctor's children and those of other cult members have been physically examined for signs of FMG. Here's a piece of good news in this.....

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U.S. Magistrate Judge Elizabeth Stafford rejected the religious argument altogether, saying bond would be decided on the allegations, not religion.

"It is important to me ... to take religion out of it and focus on the allegations that young girls' genitals were mutilated and that the defendants played a role,"  said Stafford, noting the defense claim that the procedure isn't as harmful as the government claims isn't "persuasive."

"I think it's common knowledge that the cutting of the genitalia of a 7-year-old child would be painful,"  Stafford said. "I find this to be a serious crime."

http://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/detroit/2017/05/03/genital-mutilation-probe-targets-doctors-daughters/101263068/

...and the leader of their mosque has fled the country.

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Detroit — A leader of the Muslim sect embroiled in an alleged female genital mutilation conspiracy boarded a one-way flight to India on April 10, the same day FBI agents raided a medical clinic where a doctor allegedly cut 7-year-old girls, The Detroit News has learned.

The flight is the latest development in a case that has led to criminal charges against one leader of the local Dawoodi Bohra community based out of a Farmington Hills mosque. Three members of the mosque have been charged in federal court with female genital mutilation and prosecutors say they belong to a religious and cultural community that practices the illegal procedure.

Two sources identified the leader as former mosque President Saifuddin Bhabrawala, whose three-year term ended before he flew from Detroit Metropolitan Airport on April 10, the day the genital mutilation scandal emerged publicly. He was detained by federal agents in conjunction with the female genital mutilation investigation and they searched his electronic devices before Bhabrawala flew to India, one source familiar with the man’s trip told The News.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/05/02/mosque-leader-took-way-flight-india-amid-fbi-probe/101181370/

This was evidently an investigation taking months and far more work than first suggested. Cops had video cameras watching the clinic where these butchers did their work. Defense lawyers are failing to prove the defendants were NOT present at the scene of the crime on the days cops state.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on May 04, 2017, 07:32:55 PM
This case reminds me of Doctor James C. Burt, rogue gynecologist
(if ever there were two words that should never be together...)
who thought he could enhance women's pleasure
by removing the flap of skin that normally covers the clitoris.

By leaving it exposed, it was made TOO sensitive, and painful.
He fraudulently obtained "consent" from the patients
by hiding in the fine print the surgery he was planning to actually do.

He surrendered his medical license to prevent an inquiry
that would have revealed many more details.
Lawsuits bankrupted him,
as well as the hospital where he performed the surgeries
(St Elizabeth Medical Center)
but he was never criminally charged.

So, Doctor Burt was trying to enhance sexual pleasure, but caused pain,
where Doctor Nagarwala was trying to eliminate sexual pleasure.
Doctor Burt's procedure was universally condemned,
where Doctor Nagarwala's procedure is endorsed by millions of Muslims.

Here's a short article about Doctor Burt:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_C._Burt

Here's a longer one:
http://people.com/archive/james-burts-love-surgery-was-supported-to-boost-pleasure-but-some-patients-say-it-brought-pain-vol-31-no-12/

And here's a very informative one:
http://www.patient-safety.com/burt.htm

And here's some info about the horrifying practice:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genital_modification_and_mutilation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_on_female_genital_mutilation

The www.patient-safety.com article also informs us that:

   Dr. Marci Bowers is skillful in this area
   because of her experience with gender-reassignment surgery
   in reconstructing victims of female genital mutilation in Africa.
   She might be able to help Burt's victims put things back together.
   She usually spends a lot of time in Africa helping to build a hospital,
   but she is involved with  www.clitoraid.org,
   a non-profit organization that helps with female genital mutilation.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 06, 2017, 02:10:26 AM
Two developments in this case. The doctor's children and those of other cult members have been physically examined for signs of FMG.

This was evidently an investigation taking months and far more work than first suggested. Cops had video cameras watching the clinic where these butchers did their work. Defense lawyers are failing to prove the defendants were NOT present at the scene of the crime on the days cops state.

More children of these cult members have been examined by doctors, and now authorities are seeking to take the kids into protective custody.

Quote
Detroit — Child welfare officials moved Friday to terminate the parental rights of as many as five families from a small Shia Muslim sect in Metro Detroit, alleging their children are victims of female genital mutilation, a lawyer said.

The initial moves could impact as many as 12 children from the families in Oakland and Wayne counties and sent waves of fear rippling across the local Dawoodi Bohra community.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/05/05/genital-mutilation-cases/101353874/

Waves of fear? Let's escalate this to flee in mortal terror. The FMG abomination must end.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 10, 2017, 07:54:15 AM
Well, so much for any crackdowns. The kids were allowed to remain with parents until this is settled.

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Referee Scott Hamilton approved child protection petitions, which will go to Oakland Circuit Judge Victoria Valentine for a pretrial conference and possible decision. Child welfare officials are seeking to terminate the parental rights of several families from a small Shia Muslim sect in Metro Detroit, alleging their children are victims of female genital mutilation.

But Hamilton agreed with attorneys for the couples, state Health and Human Services workers investigating the families, and an assistant county prosecutor that the children from the two families involved in Tuesday’s hearings do not appear “in any risk” at this time.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2017/05/09/genital-mutilation-parental-custody/101475892/

The risk is NOT over if these children were actually mutilated. Allowing them to remain with ignorant parents IS. They knew they were lawbreakers, else they would not have left the state to inflict this butchery on their own flesh and blood.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 21, 2017, 03:33:41 AM
They're back, headed for court --- and it's a LEGAL RIGHT to mutilate your child, ask any Muslim...or their POS shyster lawyer.

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On paper, the law seems clear: Cutting any part of a young girl's genitalia is illegal — and no custom or ritual can be used to justify it.

The law has been on the books for 21 years, unchallenged.

But in a federal courtroom in Detroit, a landmark case involving the centuries-old taboo ritual is about to put that law to the test for the first time.

And perhaps more historic, a question will be raised in the American legal system that has never been raised before: Does the U.S. Constitution allow for genital cutting, even if it's just a minor nick or scraping, in the name of religion?

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/05/21/female-genital-mutilation-religious-freedom/319911001/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on May 21, 2017, 07:31:27 PM
They might try use circumcision as precedent.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 22, 2017, 04:44:48 AM
They might try use circumcision as precedent.

The Michigan Supreme Court is overwhelmingly conservative. Their decision seems inevitable.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: je_freedom on May 22, 2017, 11:05:53 AM
The Michigan Supreme Court is overwhelmingly conservative. Their decision seems inevitable.

The Ohio Supreme Court is all Republican, but over half are RINOs.
That was revealed in 2010
when the Court unlawfully kept a valid candidate off the ballot.
Then Secretary of State Jennifer Brunner (Dem) refused to count valid signatures
on a candidate's petition to run against Mike DeWine for Attorney General,
and the Court refused to hear the case in time to make any difference.

What this shows is, a Dem did a favor for RINOs
because RINOs are closer to Dems than they are to conservatives,
like the one who was kept off the ballot.
And the RINO court acted unlawfully to retain the favor.

I wrote about the whole thing at
http://www.cpnlive.com/forum/post/1924011
under the title "STOP ELECTION THEFT !!!"

(Follow up: Governor Kasich made it up to the candidate
a couple of years later  by appointing him to a state judgeship.
If I remember correctly, a State Appeals Court office came open,
and Kasich appointed the guy to fill the rest of the term.)
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on May 22, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
The Michigan Supreme Court is overwhelmingly conservative. Their decision seems inevitable.

Good.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 23, 2017, 06:21:57 AM
Good.

Memory is hazy on when the female-mutilation bill was signed, or which Michigan governor signed it, but I strongly suspect it's over a decade old, and enough time to survive challenges --- which come only now, from someone the feds have so securely in their net.

Let's say my religion involves screwing with federal government. How long d'you think I'd get to hold services --- out of jail? Their "religion" butchers children. How long should THEY remain free?
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on May 23, 2017, 07:51:52 PM
Memory is hazy on when the female-mutilation bill was signed, or which Michigan governor signed it, but I strongly suspect it's over a decade old, and enough time to survive challenges --- which come only now, from someone the feds have so securely in their net.

Let's say my religion involves screwing with federal government. How long d'you think I'd get to hold services --- out of jail? Their "religion" butchers children. How long should THEY remain free?

Ah, I thought the law was passed recently. Looks like they might be nailed to a tree.

Good.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 23, 2017, 08:07:26 PM
Ah, I thought the law was passed recently. Looks like they might be nailed to a tree.

Good.

I just found this, posted May 17.

Quote
  Felony charges for female genital mutilation in Michigan would be tougher than current federal law under legislation passed unanimously through the state Senate Wednesday.

Performing or coordinating female genital mutilation procedures is already a federal felony carrying penalties of up to five years in prison and a $250,000 fine.


But two sponsors of the bills, Sens. Rick Jones, R-Grand Ledge, and Margaret O'Brien, R-Portage, were inspired to make it a state felony carrying a maximum of 15 years behind bars after Detroit-area doctor Jumana Nagarwala was accused of performing female genital mutilation on two minors.

"When I first heard of this practice taking place in Michigan, I was shocked," Jones said on the Senate floor. "I could not believe something so evil, so horrific, so demonic could happen here in Michigan." 

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2017/05/tougher_penalties_for_genital.html

Oh yeah. Notice how they avoid mentioning it's Muslims who do this barbaric act upon their daughters.

Quote
Female genital mutilation has existed for centuries and involves removal of portions of or the entirety of a woman's labia or clitoris, usually performed between the ages of 6 and 9, according to prosecutors.

The bills -- SB 337, SB 338, SB 368 and SB 369 -- now head to the House for consideration.   

Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 23, 2017, 08:12:16 PM
Ah, I thought the law was passed recently. Looks like they might be nailed to a tree.

Good.

My information was bad. The federal law is about five years old. This is what these alleged parents are being prosecuted under.

There is presently no Michigan law although a pair of anti-Sharia bills were approved May 21 by the state senate and are en route to the House.

https://michiganpeninsulanews.com/news/4252-senate-advances-bills-outlaw-female-genital-mutilation-michigan/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: The Boo Man... on May 23, 2017, 08:23:44 PM
My information was bad. The federal law is about five years old. This is what these alleged parents are being prosecuted under.

There is presently no Michigan law although a pair of anti-Sharia bills were approved May 21 by the state senate and are en route to the House.

https://michiganpeninsulanews.com/news/4252-senate-advances-bills-outlaw-female-genital-mutilation-michigan/

If they're being prosecuted under the present federal law by the current DoJ the results should still be good...I think I have that right.

Any road, I believe every state needs female genitalia mutilation laws.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 23, 2017, 08:36:06 PM
If they're being prosecuted under the present federal law by the current DoJ the results should still be good...I think I have that right.

Any road, I believe every state needs female genitalia mutilation laws.

Federals? Anything's possible. Anything.

These hotheads exceeded their brief. I do agree every state needs such a law, BUT.....

The present state-level move is a barn-door action which will probably be struck down by 6th Circuit appellate judges reminding us states may not pass laws more restrictive than the feds. 

Getting spineless federal-level Republicans to pass a 15-year-penalty? Foh-GIT-it! Islam is our friennnnnnnnnd!

(*Best Les Nessman voice: "God is my witness, I thought there was a state law!"*)

Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Solar on May 24, 2017, 04:37:44 AM
Federals? Anything's possible. Anything.

These hotheads exceeded their brief. I do agree every state needs such a law, BUT.....

The present state-level move is a barn-door action which will probably be struck down by 6th Circuit appellate judges reminding us states may not pass laws more restrictive than the feds. 

Getting spineless federal-level Republicans to pass a 15-year-penalty? Foh-GIT-it! Islam is our friennnnnnnnnd!

(*Best Les Nessman voice: "God is my witness, I thought there was a state law!"*)
That's not true. State law and Fed law can be two different things, Fed law does not trump state law in all cases, especially where the fed has no business ruling. The state can file this under several statutes like malpractice, Fed, on the other hand has other options, but the Fed can't yank this out of the hands of the state, it's still a states issue.
The Fed may decide to charge her and the state may allow it, or she may face both State and Federal charges, but the Fed does not have power over the state in cases such as this, unless it's being charged under First Amendment restrictions, remember the Bill of Rights?

This is going to be a minefield for any prosecutor, Fed or State, the State just might want to let the Fed have this as it's a serious hot potato, one straight from the microwave, explodes when you open it.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on May 24, 2017, 06:20:09 AM
I agree it's a minefield. Some lunatic judge might believe Islam is actually a religion, that a barbaric death cult actually deserves to practice horrors like this.

This thing is like an onion as it unfolds. I'm not going to bet either way on any freedom-of-religion issues. What I'd *LIKE* involves ten feet of stout rope and any place to anchor it --- tree limb, lamp post, doorjamb, you name it. That is prohibited by my state's law, so go figure.

The "doctor" remains in jail without bond. That's some consolation, the pace that any federal case goes (particularly in the early stages before what I expect will be a jury trial). Even a couple of years awaiting trial is still better than letting her on the street.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Solar on May 24, 2017, 07:19:07 AM
I agree it's a minefield. Some lunatic judge might believe Islam is actually a religion, that a barbaric death cult actually deserves to practice horrors like this.

This thing is like an onion as it unfolds. I'm not going to bet either way on any freedom-of-religion issues. What I'd *LIKE* involves ten feet of stout rope and any place to anchor it --- tree limb, lamp post, doorjamb, you name it. That is prohibited by my state's law, so go figure.

The "doctor" remains in jail without bond. That's some consolation, the pace that any federal case goes (particularly in the early stages before what I expect will be a jury trial). Even a couple of years awaiting trial is still better than letting her on the street.
Onion is a good analogy, because each layer removed, gets her closer to exoneration. I say that only because the enemy has learned to use our laws against us.
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on June 08, 2017, 07:06:11 AM
A federal prosecutor claimed yesterday that up to 100 girls were mutilated by these animals.

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  “Due to the secretive nature of this procedure, we are unlikely to ever know how many children were cut by Dr. (Jumana) Nagarwala,” Woodward said, referring to the lead defendant in the case, later adding, “The Minnesota victims were not the first victims.”

Against Woodward’s wishes, U.S. District Judge Bernard Friedman granted bond to two other defendants in the case: Dr. Fakhruddin Attar, 53, of Farmington Hills, who is accused of letting Nagarwala use his clinic to perform genital cutting procedures on minor girls; and his wife, Farida Attar, 50, who is accused of holding the girls’ hands during the procedure to keep them from squirming and to calm them.

The government believes the three defendants, all members of a local Indian-Muslim sect, subjected numerous girls to genital cutting procedures over a 12-year period. To date, the government says it has identified eight victims — including the two Minnesota girls — though Woodward said the government estimates there could be as many as 100 victims. She said that’s a conservative estimate, and that it’s based on Dr. Attar’s alleged admission to authorities that he let Nagarwala use his clinic up to six times a year to treat children for genital rashes.

http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/06/feds-claim-up-to-100-girls-underwent-fgm-in-michigan/

That many "genital rashes" must be so commonplace in Islam that there's no need to call in Child Protective Services....right?
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on June 14, 2017, 04:28:28 AM
Quote
Detroit – A Farmington Hills-based mosque paid a physician to perform female genital mutilation, a lawyer for the doctor’s children alleged in court Tuesday.

Cynthia Nunez, an attorney for the Michigan Children’s Law Center who represents two children of Dr. Jumana Nagarwala, said the physician was paid to cut girls as part of a procedure practiced by their religious and cultural community, the Dawoodi Bohra.   

The counter-claim is that the doctor WAS paid, all right --- for food bought for the mosque's food bank, like 2-liter pop, etc., etc.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2017/06/13/attorney-alleges-mosque-paid-genital-mutilation/102829092/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on June 14, 2017, 04:41:04 AM
Here's the liberal Detroit Free Press version. It's the first I've seen there, after this issue broke.

http://www.freep.com/story/news/2017/06/13/witness-mosque-paid-doctor-perform-genital-cuttings-girls/394104001/
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: mdgiles on June 15, 2017, 05:58:03 AM
I wonder what will happen, when some lunatic "religion", practicing human sacrifice, demands recognition. Perhaps some Mexicans will demand to be allow to practice the Aztec "old time religion". I sure that they could find some mentally unstable suicidal individual willing to demand that his/her heart be ripped from his/her chest
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: Solar on June 15, 2017, 06:36:42 AM
I wonder what will happen, when some lunatic "religion", practicing human sacrifice, demands recognition. Perhaps some Mexicans will demand to be allow to practice the Aztec "old time religion". I sure that they could find some mentally unstable suicidal individual willing to demand that his/her heart be ripped from his/her chest
Well, when you think about it, only a lib would be loony enough to volunteer, soooo, I could get behind that. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on June 15, 2017, 06:38:13 AM
I wonder what will happen, when some lunatic "religion", practicing human sacrifice, demands recognition. Perhaps some Mexicans will demand to be allow to practice the Aztec "old time religion". I sure that they could find some mentally unstable suicidal individual willing to demand that his/her heart be ripped from his/her chest

(*Memo to self: re-watch Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom*)

We already have lunatic religions, which mutilate children almost as fast as they kill them by strapping bombs to their bodies to go kill strangers. There isn't any better modern example of bigotry, ignorance and violence than what this planet gets from this death cult.

You're right, though. Never underestimate the power of judicial stupidity. With morons like the 9th Circus in operation, what WILL happen?
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: mdgiles on June 16, 2017, 04:37:00 PM
Well, when you think about it, only a lib would be loony enough to volunteer, soooo, I could get behind that. :biggrin:
Would you also participate in the "church dinner" afterwards? The sides of those pyramids, were made steep, so the lifeless body, could be easily rolled down. The Aztecs also practiced cannibalism.  :scared:
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: quiller on July 11, 2017, 04:24:34 PM
Barn, meet door. Claims of double jeopardy should be interesting, though feds have first crack and the state simply ensures the doctors and others STAY jailed.

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LANSING, Mich. (AP) — Doctors, parents and others involved in female genital mutilation in Michigan will face up to 15 years in prison under new laws signed Tuesday that were sparked by an ongoing criminal case involving six young girls.

The legislation stemmed from a federal case against six people connected to an India-based Muslim sect called Dawoodi Bohra who are accused of being involved in the genital mutilation of two girls from Minnesota and four from Michigan. The procedures were allegedly carried out by a doctor at a clinic in suburban Detroit.

"Those who commit these horrendous crimes should be held accountable for their actions, and these bills stiffen the penalties for offenders while providing additional support to victims," Gov. Rick Snyder said in a statement. "This legislation is an important step toward eliminating this despicable practice in Michigan while empowering victims to find healing and justice."

The practice, also known as female circumcision or cutting, is a federal crime punishable by five years in prison. But the new Michigan laws — which also give prosecutors and victims more time to pursue such cases — create harsher penalties for procedures that have been condemned by the United Nation but are common for girls in some parts of Asia, Africa and the Middle East.

Michigan is the 26th state to officially ban the practice in the U.S. The state laws take effect in October.

The new laws apply to parents or others who knowingly facilitate genital mutilation, including by transporting girls to another state for the procedure. Defendants in such cases will not be able to defend themselves in court by saying it is a custom or ritual.  

http://www.tbo.com/ap/national/michigan-imposes-prison-term-for-female-genital-mutilation-ap_nationalb40578a4035b478a90691b5f2299069a
Title: Re: Michigan has first genital-mutilation case
Post by: walkstall on July 18, 2017, 02:29:32 PM
Genital mutilation investigation spreads to 5 states

 

Updated 1:10 p.m. ET July 18, 2017
http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2017/07/18/mutilation-case-spreads-nationwide/103799260/