Massachusetts city council to vote on Trump impeachment resolution

Started by Ms.Independence, April 03, 2017, 05:15:22 AM

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Ms.Independence

Obviously a city council in MA voting to impeach Trump is purely symbolic as the article suggests, but how can Trump's lawyers say that every conflict of interest have been cleared up when it sure seems he is breaking nepotism laws by hiring his son-in-law and his daughter?

Massachusetts city council to vote on Trump impeachment resolution

A Massachusetts city is joining a handful of other municipalities across the country in calling for an impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump, based on alleged conflicts of interest.

Cambridge City Council is slated to vote Monday on a resolution calling for the U.S. House of Representatives to begin such an investigation.

The resolution -- which is largely symbolic -- follows similar calls to action by other city councils, including Richmond, Virginia; Berkeley, California; and Alameda, California.

But as ABC News previously reported, in a resignation letter dated Jan. 19 -- the day before his inauguration -- Trump wrote, "I, Donald Trump, hereby resign from each and every office and position I hold in the entities listed." More than 400 entities were listed in the 19-page document.
Trump's lawyers have also previously said that all potential conflicts of interest have been ironed out.

The resolution is being sponsored by Cambridge vice mayor Marc McGovern, councilor Jan Devereux and councilor Leland Cheung, according to the policy order posted on the city's website.

The resolution states, "That the City Council call upon the United States House of Representatives to support a resolution authorizing and directing the House Committee on the Judiciary to investigate whether sufficient grounds exist for the impeachment of Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, including but not limited to the violations of the Foreign Emoluments Clause and the Domestic Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution." ...

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/massachusetts-city-council-vote-trump-impeachment-resolution-monday-083353329--abc-news-topstories.html
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Solar

Had this Been a TEA challenge to their enlightened Marxist, Yahoo would see to it, it never saw the light of day as a news article.
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blake allyn

Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2017, 05:44:10 AM
Had this Been a TEA challenge to their enlightened Marxist, Yahoo would see to it, it never saw the light of day as a news article.

Perhaps because there was no reason to impeach Obama and only a lunatic would advocate it and most who did argued he was not a citizen mainly because they were mad there was a black president?

Also, you continue to use the word Marxist incorrectly.  To refer to Obama as a marxist is absolutely idiotic, completely misses the point of his 8 years and fundamentally does not understand American politics.  You also dont understand the difference between socialism and communism and marxism. 

I will repeat something you refuse to respond to.  The ACA was written by the health care industry's private lawyers.


To call that Marxism, is beyond idiotic.

Solar

Quote from: blake allyn on April 03, 2017, 06:54:16 AM
Perhaps because there was no reason to impeach Obama and only a lunatic would advocate it and most who did argued he was not a citizen mainly because they were mad there was a black president?
Black, what has race to do with it? Oh yeah, that's right, to you libs everything is about race.
Drop that shit, your racism doesn't play here kid.

QuoteAlso, you continue to use the word Marxist incorrectly.  To refer to Obama as a marxist is absolutely idiotic, completely misses the point of his 8 years and fundamentally does not understand American politics.  You also dont understand the difference between socialism and communism and marxism. 
Go ahead, tell us what Marxism means.

QuoteI will repeat something you refuse to respond to.  The ACA was written by the health care industry's private lawyers.


To call that Marxism, is beyond idiotic.
Show me where I refused to respond, come on troll, I warned you about making shit up.
Now if you want to prove the Dim party isn't Marxist, go right ahead, but I guarantee you, I will make you look like the biggest tool ever.
You'll wish you hadn't challenged people that know what they're talking about, but go right ahead if you think you have the balls to challenge me.
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topside

Quote from: blake allyn on April 03, 2017, 06:54:16 AM
Perhaps because there was no reason to impeach Obama and only a lunatic would advocate it and most who did argued he was not a citizen mainly because they were mad there was a black president?

Also, you continue to use the word Marxist incorrectly.  To refer to Obama as a marxist is absolutely idiotic, completely misses the point of his 8 years and fundamentally does not understand American politics.  You also dont understand the difference between socialism and communism and marxism. 

I will repeat something you refuse to respond to.  The ACA was written by the health care industry's private lawyers.


To call that Marxism, is beyond idiotic.

Hmm. I was hoping you would come back. But would have thought a little more about how to discuss the issues in a more profound manner. You restate the same points over and over again. And you're still shot-gunning over many issues at once that you take exception with. And the whole "I Won" thing has gotten old. Some played along for awhile, but it's not helpful.

Step back Blake. You have a lot of perspectives / beliefs that most your age don't have and I admire that. But admit that you also have a lot to learn from other contexts and experiences. Admit where you are searching for input.

What is your age? There's a natural rate at which experience moves into the bones of any of us. You do seem ahead of your time but also of your time. You seem to discount much of our Republic foundation. Knowing your age will help us all. It's not like I'm asking for your tax return!  :smile:

blake allyn

Quote from: topside on April 03, 2017, 07:16:31 AM
Hmm. I was hoping you would come back. But would have thought a little more about how to discuss the issues in a more profound manner. You restate the same points over and over again. And you're still shot-gunning over many issues at once that you take exception with. And the whole "I Won" thing has gotten old. Some played along for awhile, but it's not helpful.

Step back Blake. You have a lot of perspectives / beliefs that most your age don't have and I admire that. But admit that you also have a lot to learn from other contexts and experiences. Admit where you are searching for input.

What is your age? There's a natural rate at which experience moves into the bones of any of us. You do seem ahead of your time but also of your time. You seem to discount much of our Republic foundation. Knowing your age will help us all. It's not like I'm asking for your tax return!  :smile:
You can have my age! 27!!!!

blake allyn

Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2017, 07:14:02 AM
Black, what has race to do with it? Oh yeah, that's right, to you libs everything is about race.
Drop that shit, your racism doesn't play here kid.
Go ahead, tell us what Marxism means.
Show me where I refused to respond, come on troll, I warned you about making shit up.
Now if you want to prove the Dim party isn't Marxist, go right ahead, but I guarantee you, I will make you look like the biggest tool ever.
You'll wish you hadn't challenged people that know what they're talking about, but go right ahead if you think you have the balls to challenge me.

You need me to explain the difference between Marxism, Communism and socialism?  I'll be happy to.

But just to be clear:
1. You want my definitions of those three
2. You then want me to explain why the dem party are not Marxists?

topside

Quote from: blake allyn on April 03, 2017, 07:20:42 AM
You can have my age! 27!!!!

My guess was 25 - recently out of college. So that's pretty close. That's such a great part of life. Try to be patient and prioritize where you spend your time ... in general and on the forum.

I'm 57 and grew up in the midwest - eventually finished H.S. in Colorado. I've spent a lot of time in my life studying: Engineering in the 80's, graduate school for engineering in the 90's, graduate mathematics in the 2000's. All along while working and raising three girls. I have grandkids now. Marriage and children had a way of teaching me humility like no other life lesson. Rounded off some of the sharp edges. I have a very patient wife whom I'm very grateful for - after 36 years, we still like each other.

What's your background?

Ms.Independence

Quote from: blake allyn on April 03, 2017, 06:54:16 AM
Perhaps because there was no reason to impeach Obama and only a lunatic would advocate it and most who did argued he was not a citizen mainly because they were mad there was a black president?

Also, you continue to use the word Marxist incorrectly.  To refer to Obama as a marxist is absolutely idiotic, completely misses the point of his 8 years and fundamentally does not understand American politics.  You also dont understand the difference between socialism and communism and marxism. 

I will repeat something you refuse to respond to.  The ACA was written by the health care industry's private lawyers.


To call that Marxism, is beyond idiotic.

Please stop hijacking the threads (right now, I'm asking you kindly). The ACA has absolutely nothing to do with this topic.
When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another...Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed...

blake allyn

Quote from: topside on April 03, 2017, 07:31:50 AM
My guess was 25 - recently out of college. So that's pretty close. That's such a great part of life. Try to be patient and prioritize where you spend your time ... in general and on the forum.

I'm 57 and grew up in the midwest - eventually finished H.S. in Colorado. I've spent a lot of time in my life studying: Engineering in the 80's, graduate school for engineering in the 90's, graduate mathematics in the 2000's. All along while working and raising three girls. I have grandkids now. Marriage and children had a way of teaching me humility like no other life lesson. Rounded off some of the sharp edges. I have a very patient wife whom I'm very grateful for - after 36 years, we still like each other.

What's your background?

Good to hear.  I have a masters in applied social research and policy analysis. 

Solar

Quote from: topside on April 03, 2017, 07:31:50 AM
My guess was 25 - recently out of college. So that's pretty close. That's such a great part of life. Try to be patient and prioritize where you spend your time ... in general and on the forum.

I'm 57 and grew up in the midwest - eventually finished H.S. in Colorado. I've spent a lot of time in my life studying: Engineering in the 80's, graduate school for engineering in the 90's, graduate mathematics in the 2000's. All along while working and raising three girls. I have grandkids now. Marriage and children had a way of teaching me humility like no other life lesson. Rounded off some of the sharp edges. I have a very patient wife whom I'm very grateful for - after 36 years, we still like each other.

What's your background?
Remember turning 21 and thinking you're an adult, then you go to bars and find out you're a kid once again?
Then you turn 27 and hit the bars again, only to discover you no longer fit in with the kids...
This is the place we've all been in, all your friends have a purpose, whether it's opening new businesses or raising families or exploring the planet, they have a goal.
Blake is without cause, career or wisdom and it's driving him nuts. But why he comes to a forum where people know what and who they are is beyond reason, and then try and claim he understands life and politics makes one wonder if he is some sort of perverted masochist who enjoys public humiliation...
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blake allyn

Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2017, 07:51:08 AM
Remember turning 21 and thinking you're an adult, then you go to bars and find out you're a kid once again?
Then you turn 27 and hit the bars again, only to discover you no longer fit in with the kids...
This is the place we've all been in, all your friends have a purpose, whether it's opening new businesses or raising families or exploring the planet, they have a goal.
Blake is without cause, career or wisdom and it's driving him nuts. But why he comes to a forum where people know what and who they are is beyond reason, and then try and claim he understands life and politics makes one wonder if he is some sort of perverted masochist who enjoys public humiliation...

I am a senior data analyst for a successful company. 
Nice to see you use the same evidence tactics in psychology as you do for climate change!

You ignored my question above: Please respond.

supsalemgr

Quote from: Ms.Independence on April 03, 2017, 05:15:22 AM
Obviously a city council in MA voting to impeach Trump is purely symbolic as the article suggests, but how can Trump's lawyers say that every conflict of interest have been cleared up when it sure seems he is breaking nepotism laws by hiring his son-in-law and his daughter?

Massachusetts city council to vote on Trump impeachment resolution

A Massachusetts city is joining a handful of other municipalities across the country in calling for an impeachment investigation of President Donald Trump, based on alleged conflicts of interest.

Cambridge City Council is slated to vote Monday on a resolution calling for the U.S. House of Representatives to begin such an investigation.

The resolution -- which is largely symbolic -- follows similar calls to action by other city councils, including Richmond, Virginia; Berkeley, California; and Alameda, California.

But as ABC News previously reported, in a resignation letter dated Jan. 19 -- the day before his inauguration -- Trump wrote, "I, Donald Trump, hereby resign from each and every office and position I hold in the entities listed." More than 400 entities were listed in the 19-page document.
Trump's lawyers have also previously said that all potential conflicts of interest have been ironed out.

The resolution is being sponsored by Cambridge vice mayor Marc McGovern, councilor Jan Devereux and councilor Leland Cheung, according to the policy order posted on the city's website.

The resolution states, "That the City Council call upon the United States House of Representatives to support a resolution authorizing and directing the House Committee on the Judiciary to investigate whether sufficient grounds exist for the impeachment of Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, including but not limited to the violations of the Foreign Emoluments Clause and the Domestic Emoluments Clause of the United States Constitution." ...

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/massachusetts-city-council-vote-trump-impeachment-resolution-monday-083353329--abc-news-topstories.html

These people obviously have too much time on their hands.
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Billy's bayonet

Quote from: Solar on April 03, 2017, 07:51:08 AM

Blake is without cause, career or wisdom and it's driving him nuts. But why he comes to a forum where people know what and who they are is beyond reason, and then try and claim he understands life and politics makes one wonder if he is some sort of perverted masochist who enjoys public humiliation...


He an Expert in everything Social....he has a degree after all and we're just poor knuckle dragging buffoons.....

I can't wait to see his definition of Marxism, Socialism and Communism.
Evil operates best when under a disguise

WHEN A CRIME GOES UNPUNISHED THE WORLD IS UNBALANCED

WHEN A WRONG IS UNAVENGED THE HEAVENS LOOK DOWN ON US IN SHAME

IMPEACH BIDEN

blake allyn

Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 03, 2017, 08:05:39 AM

He an Expert in everything Social....he has a degree after all and we're just poor knuckle dragging buffoons.....

I can't wait to see his definition of Marxism, Socialism and Communism.
Waiting for solar to confirm that is what he is asking for. 

Hes shady, sometimes I write specific questions in a debate to him and he disappears.....or he just deletes the thread.