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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2017, 06:27:02 AM »
I fully understand that the law was broken several times I get that.  However in order for prosecution to take place the situation will have to be investigated and a determination made to prosecute those involved.  The investigation is going to be done by the DOJ which the FBI has already asked them to deny the claim.  The acting current AG is going to be replaced tomorrow by the newly appointed Deputy AG who worked under Bammy.

If we look back at all the lawlessness that took place under the Bammy administration, both Holder and Lynch looked the other way. In fact in 2012 Holder appointed Rosenstein to investigate leaks of classified information that the White House was accused of and Bammy denied.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/06/holder-names-2-prosecutors-to-probe-leaks-077228
So you're basing the outcome of the GOP's historical incompetence and collusion with the enemy as a predictor of the future, is that what you're saying?
The only reason the GOP never pushed for investigations, is because they share a common goal with the Marxist party, but now they have new leadership, and he was the target.
You admit the law was broken, yet make serious leaps as to why nothing is going to happen. I just don't make the connections.
Trump was targeted, obviously, he has evidence or he'd never have said anything.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2017, 06:57:44 AM »
:thumbup:

As I listened to that broadcast LIVE and then a second time - Levin was laying out a road-map, connecting the dots for us... and sounded like he was reminding the FBI or whoever, they MUST investigate thoroughly.

This could involve tens or hundreds of people - all ready to point the finger of blame back to someone in the Obama cabinet.   
Would you be surprised if James Comey doesn't bubble back up?


Understand something, like with most Govt & Non Govt agencies there are two(or more) major factions within the Dept.

The FBI and the DOJ are no different, there are "Obama" people and there are "Trump" people, which is not to say they are blind Trump supporters but loyal to the Constitution, the ideals of justice, oath of office, etc etc. They will "out" the rotten apples.

My gut tells me they already have.....Trump was told about this, either covertly or openly....by someone with direct knowledge.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2017, 07:32:47 AM »
So you're basing the outcome of the GOP's historical incompetence and collusion with the enemy as a predictor of the future, is that what you're saying?
The only reason the GOP never pushed for investigations, is because they share a common goal with the Marxist party, but now they have new leadership, and he was the target.
You admit the law was broken, yet make serious leaps as to why nothing is going to happen. I just don't make the connections.
Trump was targeted, obviously, he has evidence or he'd never have said anything.

The connection is the DOJ ... the DOJ is the past was corrupt; Holder & Lynch.  Sessions is out of the picture on this and the newly appointed Deputy AG (who was also appointed by Holder to investigate Bammy) will be in charge of this investigation.

Perhaps you don't think that the new Deputy AG who is a carry over from Bammy is a concern, I do.  I don't see him prosecuting Bammy, or Lynch.

In the end Solar, I hope I am dead wrong on this and for once the left will be held accountable.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2017, 08:01:44 AM »
The connection is the DOJ ... the DOJ is the past was corrupt; Holder & Lynch.  Sessions is out of the picture on this and the newly appointed Deputy AG (who was also appointed by Holder to investigate Bammy) will be in charge of this investigation.

Perhaps you don't think that the new Deputy AG who is a carry over from Bammy is a concern, I do.  I don't see him prosecuting Bammy, or Lynch.

In the end Solar, I hope I am dead wrong on this and for once the left will be held accountable.

We all know how slimy politicians can be, although there seems to be more of the slimy ones on the left.  No doubt the excuses are being lined up and rehearsed as we speak...no wonder so little gets accomplished.

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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2017, 08:08:51 AM »
The connection is the DOJ ... the DOJ is the past was corrupt; Holder & Lynch.  Sessions is out of the picture on this and the newly appointed Deputy AG (who was also appointed by Holder to investigate Bammy) will be in charge of this investigation.

Perhaps you don't think that the new Deputy AG who is a carry over from Bammy is a concern, I do.  I don't see him prosecuting Bammy, or Lynch.

In the end Solar, I hope I am dead wrong on this and for once the left will be held accountable.
Did you not listen to your own video by Levin?

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I get your historical pessimism, but Trump has proven he doesn't roll over for anything.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2017, 09:36:14 AM »
Did you not listen to your own video by Levin?

I get your historical pessimism, but Trump has proven he doesn't roll over for anything.

Ok Solar ... now you sound like my hubby on the pessimism ... I see myself as a realist.  :thumbsup:   I don't trust anyone from the Bammy administration. You are absolutely correct, Trump doesn't rollover, nor does he cut anyone slack.  It will definitely be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2017, 09:58:47 AM »
Ok Solar ... now you sound like my hubby on the pessimism ... I see myself as a realist.  :thumbsup:   I don't trust anyone from the Bammy administration. You are absolutely correct, Trump doesn't rollover, nor does he cut anyone slack.  It will definitely be interesting to see how this all plays out.

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That's the thing, Trump is not the guy I expected him to be based on his Dim ties. As you well know, I despised the guy, but once elected I swore to give him a fair shot and support where deserved.
This is one of those times, the Marxist party had no issue abusing their power in using Fed entities like a weapon and with Impunity!
The GOP feigned anger was a nice ruse, but once they started letting these people off the hook, it was blatantly obvious they had made a deal with the Dims, 'You don't expose our involvement with attacking TEA, and we won't prosecute any Dims'.

But that was before the country elected an outsider in Trump. So far his track record has been impressive in following through on everything he said he was going to do, and with this new information coming out and his proof that he was a target as a US Citizen pursuing political office, makes it even more imperative that he follows through or the nation loses all faith in our political system, in that no self-respecting person would subject themselves to such invasions of privacy.

I expect to see a special Prosecutor appointed because obviously neither party can be trusted to follow the Constitution.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2017, 10:42:39 AM »
That's the thing, Trump is not the guy I expected him to be based on his Dim ties. As you well know, I despised the guy, but once elected I swore to give him a fair shot and support where deserved.
This is one of those times, the Marxist party had no issue abusing their power in using Fed entities like a weapon and with Impunity!
The GOP feigned anger was a nice ruse, but once they started letting these people off the hook, it was blatantly obvious they had made a deal with the Dims, 'You don't expose our involvement with attacking TEA, and we won't prosecute any Dims'.

But that was before the country elected an outsider in Trump. So far his track record has been impressive in following through on everything he said he was going to do, and with this new information coming out and his proof that he was a target as a US Citizen pursuing political office, makes it even more imperative that he follows through or the nation loses all faith in our political system, in that no self-respecting person would subject themselves to such invasions of privacy.

I expect to see a special Prosecutor appointed because obviously neither party can be trusted to follow the Constitution.

You and I are on the same page for the most part.  I too detested Trump. Once he defeated Hillary, I was willing to give him a clean slate with the utmost respect and yes his current track record has been impressive. Sure, I believe he was a target and in probability a special prosecutor will be assigned.  This is where I believe you and I have a difference of opinion.  Rosenstein (soon to be Trump's new Deputy AG) who worked as a special prosecutor under Eric Holder to investigate the White House and Bammy will in all likelihood assign the special prosecutor. IF Rosenstein assigns the  special prosecutor I don't see things going well ... this is based on his past affiliation with Holder and his association with Clinton, Bush and Bammy. I'm still scratching my head as to why President Trump would select him ... perhaps the news article that I read about Trump's appointment of him is incorrect.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2017, 12:31:40 PM »
You and I are on the same page for the most part.  I too detested Trump. Once he defeated Hillary, I was willing to give him a clean slate with the utmost respect and yes his current track record has been impressive. Sure, I believe he was a target and in probability a special prosecutor will be assigned.  This is where I believe you and I have a difference of opinion.  Rosenstein (soon to be Trump's new Deputy AG) who worked as a special prosecutor under Eric Holder to investigate the White House and Bammy will in all likelihood assign the special prosecutor. IF Rosenstein assigns the  special prosecutor I don't see things going well ... this is based on his past affiliation with Holder and his association with Clinton, Bush and Bammy. I'm still scratching my head as to why President Trump would select him ... perhaps the news article that I read about Trump's appointment of him is incorrect.
He may suggest from a list of names of which Trump will likely make the final decision, assuming Sessions is out, or even possibly replaced by none other than christy.
But all of this is speculation, because Trump can delay this indefinitely, keeping it in the news and played when needed.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2017, 04:12:46 PM »
That's the thing, Trump is not the guy I expected him to be based on his Dim ties. As you well know, I despised the guy, but once elected I swore to give him a fair shot and support where deserved.
This is one of those times, the Marxist party had no issue abusing their power in using Fed entities like a weapon and with Impunity!
The GOP feigned anger was a nice ruse, but once they started letting these people off the hook, it was blatantly obvious they had made a deal with the Dims, 'You don't expose our involvement with attacking TEA, and we won't prosecute any Dims'.

But that was before the country elected an outsider in Trump. So far his track record has been impressive in following through on everything he said he was going to do, and with this new information coming out and his proof that he was a target as a US Citizen pursuing political office, makes it even more imperative that he follows through or the nation loses all faith in our political system, in that no self-respecting person would subject themselves to such invasions of privacy.

I expect to see a special Prosecutor appointed because obviously neither party can be trusted to follow the Constitution.
Isn't this putting the cart before the horse? What crimes have been committed to require a special prosecutor? Has the FBI requested prosecutor assistance from the DOJ? So far from what I've seen it is fake news, a false premise being driven by the left! Why in the world would the DOJ, FBI, congress or the executive under Trump cave to these cry babies and their lies?

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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2017, 04:19:47 PM »
Isn't this putting the cart before the horse? What crimes have been committed to require a special prosecutor? Has the FBI requested prosecutor assistance from the DOJ? So far from what I've seen it is fake news, a false premise being driven by the left! Why in the world would the DOJ, FBI, congress or the executive under Trump cave to these cry babies and their lies?

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« Reply #41 on: March 06, 2017, 04:21:11 PM »
Isn't this putting the cart before the horse? What crimes have been committed to require a special prosecutor? Has the FBI requested prosecutor assistance from the DOJ? So far from what I've seen it is fake news, a false premise being driven by the left! Why in the world would the DOJ, FBI, congress or the executive under Trump cave to these cry babies and their lies?
Try working on that cognitive process of yours. Now read this thread again, and see if you can glean the actual points being put forward.
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Re: Marxist Wiretap Thread
« Reply #42 on: March 06, 2017, 04:40:22 PM »
I think you're reading waaaaay too much into this.
His recusal means nothing, stop listening to leftists pundits impressing their hopes and dreams into their airtime.
All the talkingheads in the country will never put Humpty Dumpty back together again, Trump has a piece of the Marxists shell as evidence.
This may be a really dumb question, but here goes,  I thought Sessions only recused himself from the investigation on his self  and not from other job duties? In other words, is he free to investigate obama?

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« Reply #43 on: March 06, 2017, 05:30:27 PM »
This may be a really dumb question, but here goes,  I thought Sessions only recused himself from the investigation on his self  and not from other job duties? In other words, is he free to investigate obama?


He is free to launch any investigation for which THERE IS PROBABLE CAUSE....if he is wise he will appoint a special (read Indie) prosecutor
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« Reply #44 on: March 06, 2017, 07:33:15 PM »
This may be a really dumb question, but here goes,  I thought Sessions only recused himself from the investigation on his self  and not from other job duties? In other words, is he free to investigate obama?
No, excellent question, which is why I was saying move on and appoint a special prosecutor.
I read so much bull shit on the web, yet not a soul has broached the topic, instead everyone but Levin is responding to the leftist media's game of tag.
Maybe tomorrow or the next day, Trump will drop a bomb on these assholes. :biggrin:
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