Marine Le Pen refuses to put on muzzie head veil

Started by taxed, February 21, 2017, 06:42:26 PM

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taxed

Nice...  Some politicians are starting to take a stand against the cockroaches.  Hussein would have bent over and shown flexibility.  Le Pen told them to stuff it and canceled the meeting.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/21/le-pen-forgoes-meeting-with-grand-mufti-rather-than-wear-islamic-veil/

QuoteThe leader of France's National Front, Marine Le Pen, has opted to cancel a meeting with Lebanon's Grand Mufti rather than wear an Islamic veil.

Ms Le Pen is in the country to meet its leaders ahead of the first round of voting in France's Presidential elections in April, in which she is expected to top the polls. But when offered a scarf to wear to a scheduled meeting with the Sunni religious leader, the Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdul Latif Derian, she declined.

"I met the grand mufti of Al-Azhar," she told reporters, referring to a 2015 visit to Cairo's historical centre of Islamic learning. "The highest Sunni authority didn't have this requirement, but it doesn't matter.

"You can pass on my respects to the grand mufti, but I will not cover myself up," she said.
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Cryptic Bert

WTF is wrong with people? "I won't talk to women unless they are wearing a pillow case"?

taxed

Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 21, 2017, 06:58:55 PM
WTF is wrong with people? "I won't talk to women unless they are wearing a pillow case"?

It's just so not to anger them and force them to start rioting and burning things.  They're very peaceful.
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Cryptic Bert

Quote from: taxed on February 21, 2017, 07:00:01 PM
It's just so not to anger them and force them to start rioting and burning things.  They're very peaceful.

If they are not burning things they are raping things. Islam is basically the religion of arson and genitals. Odd combination.

topside

Quote from: The Boo Man... on February 21, 2017, 07:12:21 PM
If they are not burning things they are raping things. Islam is basically the religion of arson and genitals. Odd combination.

Boo Man: I'm not a Muslim and believe it to be a false religion. But your comment offends even me. The article was about someone who took a stand not to cow down to political pressure and cover herself. Not a call for Boo Man Jihad against the entire Muslim community. You might have strong reasons for your bigotry, but we're trying to get behind our republic, aren't we?

Freedom of Religion ... I think that was somewhere in the Constitution / First Amendment / Bill of Rights that this site and our republic supports:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

But I agree that there are some followers of Islam that act as though their religion is of arson and genitals. There are bad actors in all religions - bad actors in all groups that I've witnessed that mean well for that matter. But most are peaceful in their beliefs.


walkstall

Quote from: topside on February 22, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Boo Man: I'm not a Muslim and believe it to be a false religion. But your comment offends even me. The article was about someone who took a stand not to cow down to political pressure and cover herself. Not a call for Boo Man Jihad against the entire Muslim community. You might have strong reasons for your bigotry, but we're trying to get behind our republic, aren't we?

Freedom of Religion ... I think that was somewhere in the Constitution / First Amendment / Bill of Rights that this site and our republic supports:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

But I agree that there are some followers of Islam that act as though their religion is of arson and genitals. There are bad actors in all religions - bad actors in all groups that I've witnessed that mean well for that matter. But most are peaceful in their beliefs.

Show me the open outrage over this from even 1/3 of the Islam religion actors. 
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Always remember "Feelings Aren't Facts."

Solar

Quote from: topside on February 22, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Boo Man: I'm not a Muslim and believe it to be a false religion. But your comment offends even me.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You're offended? Did he intentionally target you? Your entire line screams liberal snowflake.

QuoteThe article was about someone who took a stand not to cow down to political pressure and cover herself. Not a call for Boo Man Jihad against the entire Muslim community. You might have strong reasons for your bigotry, but we're trying to get behind our republic, aren't we?
Do you even know what a bigot is? Look up the tenets of Islum, and you'll have a clear understanding of what bigot means.

QuoteFreedom of Religion ... I think that was somewhere in the Constitution / First Amendment / Bill of Rights that this site and our republic supports:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."
Where did he mention anything about using govt to control Islum?

QuoteBut I agree that there are some followers of Islam that act as though their religion is of arson and genitals. There are bad actors in all religions - bad actors in all groups that I've witnessed that mean well for that matter. But most are peaceful in their beliefs.

No other religion condones beheading people in the name of their God, nor do its followers remain silent as the followers that make excuses for bad behavior.
I could go on and on, but you get the idea.
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topside

Quote from: walkstall on February 22, 2017, 10:39:32 AM
Show me the open outrage over this from even 1/3 of the Islam religion actors.

I don't know the details of that religion or the violence that their text calls for. But I do know that, even if the texts call for it, those I've talked with don't believe that it's calling for them to rape and destroy the property of others. They want good lives for themselves and their families.   

Terrorism: The unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

So you can't even classify most if it as terrorism because much of their rapes and attacks are done just to satisfy some kind of blood lust as I understand it. And why aren't the people more outraged? I would guess mostly because they don't want to draw attention to themselves as the radicals will kill then, their children, their families. It's a lot easier to be outraged when the only risk is that someone may not agree with you.

What is confusing is that I don't see the outrage from those in our nation who can speak and act freely against it. But distance makes it easier to say things and harder for it to be effective.

taxed

Quote from: topside on February 22, 2017, 10:13:09 AM
Boo Man: I'm not a Muslim and believe it to be a false religion. But your comment offends even me. The article was about someone who took a stand not to cow down to political pressure and cover herself. Not a call for Boo Man Jihad against the entire Muslim community. You might have strong reasons for your bigotry, but we're trying to get behind our republic, aren't we?

Freedom of Religion ... I think that was somewhere in the Constitution / First Amendment / Bill of Rights that this site and our republic supports:

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

But I agree that there are some followers of Islam that act as though their religion is of arson and genitals. There are bad actors in all religions - bad actors in all groups that I've witnessed that mean well for that matter. But most are peaceful in their beliefs.

I'm very sorry you were offended.  Is there anything we can do to make your stay more comfortable?
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topside

Quote from: Solar on February 22, 2017, 12:54:20 PM
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
You're offended? Did he intentionally target you? Your entire line screams liberal snowflake.

Thanks for the name-call ... not a liberal and not a snowflake. I thought we were past that.

Fuck'n liberals with their panzy ass, pin-headed whining about Trump doing something.

There - does that help you feel better? I thought this site was about thinking through all the crap going on together and coming up with reasoned conclusions that align with the conservative aspects as we each believe them. Then to take these ideas with the reasons to those around us so that they can help the republic move in a good way. If that's not what all this is for, then why are we bothering? What's the fucking point.

The other night, the Mexican Wall came up at our dinner table with my parents who came over to my house for dinner (before you start thinking I live with my parents). There was a lot of divergence in the discussion and I brought up some of the numbers from this forum. My folks are more convinced that the Wall should go up. Ok - they're only two people. But that's how we move minds in the right direction.

So, a snowflake is someone who is easily offended. I did say offended ... made an easy target. It's not the right word, okay. I was trying to convey that I thought we were better than this. I know Boo Man has been posting for a long time (a Hero level) and I want him to work forward with the rest of the conservative force that's here. I just called him out on what I thought was over the line. I want to see if he's rationale or not - or will just defend his position even if he's off-point.

Does anyone agree with me that this was over the line? Or is it that only about five people contribute, or that the members agree with Boo Man's position on Muslims. This site has a poll - maybe I'll put one together. :-)

I thought this was a lightning rod. But I expected you to at least look at both viewpoints - not just throw me under the bus. I had valid support and Boo Man only vented emotion over an entire people-group that was only valid for a subset.

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Do you even know what a bigot is? Look up the tenets of Islum, and you'll have a clear understanding of what bigot means. Where did he mention anything about using govt to control Islum?

Bigot defined above - is actually not a very meaningful term. It needs more definition to hold meaning. Boo Man was saying that those who follow Islam either burn things or rape women. I know (hope) he was only giving an extreme characterization of his thought, but I'll avoid the term bigot and just say he was characterizing a whole people-group by the fraction that acts as anarchists and/or dictators who lead in terrorizing the peaceful into silence.

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No other religion condones beheading people in the name of their God, nor do its followers remain silent as the followers that make excuses for bad behavior.
I could go on and on, but you get the idea.

Does the religious text condone beheadings? I don't know - never looked. I'll trust that you have and that it does. But even so, I do know that all Muslims that I've met haven't tried to behead those around them. So the idea may be systemic but is not carried out in practice. Yes - I have issues with the inconsistency, but this discussion is about what people are doing as much as what their religion espouses.

topside

Quote from: taxed on February 22, 2017, 01:08:48 PM
I'm very sorry you were offended.  Is there anything we can do to make your stay more comfortable?

Asshole. :-) I'll no better than to use that word ever again. I've taken my beatings - can we move on?


topside

All-in-all, the Arab culture is in great contrast to our republic. It has been like it is for a long, long time (maybe 8000 years or so?).

It's incompatible with our republic and if Islamists come here they need to fall under our republic. That means they accept our Constitution and it's laws. They will experience a great culture shift. And when the extremists try to flex their muscles, I hope we'll have the guts to kill the bastards. And hopefully the people near them won't cow to them because the good guys will take losses.

There's an interesting parallel in some of (any of) our cities. The gangs are like the extremists and the people cow to them so that they can survive. An interesting question is how do we remove those predators - how do we exterminate the gangs that cause so much damage. Now that's worth discussing. Maybe you already have.

Bronx

Quote from: topside on February 22, 2017, 01:33:32 PM
Thanks for the name-call ... not a liberal and not a snowflake. I thought we were past that.




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C'MON MAN....!

You call a person a "bigot" that you don't even know then you get upset because someone called you a "snowflake".

People sleep peacefully at night because there are a few tough men prepared to do violence on their behalf.

A foolish man complains about his torn pockets.

A wise man uses it to scratch his balls.

quiller

Quote from: taxed on February 22, 2017, 01:08:48 PM
I'm very sorry you were offended.  Is there anything we can do to make your stay more comfortable?

Maybe a nice back rub, and mints on the pillow.

quiller

Quote from: Bronx on February 22, 2017, 01:44:13 PM



C'MON MAN....!

You call a person a "bigot" that you don't even know then you get upset because someone called you a "snowflake".

He could be called a whole lot worse for defending the false religion which killed so many Americans on 9/11/2001.