Quote from: Sauce on October 24, 2020, 08:19:38 AM
Hold your nose and vote for Lindsey....why you say?

Because of what's happening with Biden, because this political graf is COMMON PLACE.   Because this is just the tip of the iceberg being exposed.

If anyone thinks what Q has been posting has a degree of truth to it, we KNOW this is just the beginning.  MASS resignations will happen.....and one of those WILL BE Lindsey.....if he is re elected.   And South Carolina has a Republican governor which I ASSUME would appoint his replacement.   If not some type of election would occur to fill his seat.

If he loses we are stuck with a DEM senator in SC for 6 years.

Something to think about

I'm going to listen to Solar and agree that it's better to have a demonrat controlled senate than to have a republicant controlled senate with RINOs in it.

Quote from: Killer Clouds on October 24, 2020, 08:28:37 AM
I'm going to listen to Solar and agree that it's better to have a demonrat controlled senate than to have a republicant controlled senate with RINOs in it.

Huh? You realize 50 dem votes  in the senate means the entire communist agenda  gets  passed?

Quote from: Sauce on October 24, 2020, 08:19:38 AM
Hold your nose and vote for Lindsey....why you say?

Because of what's happening with Biden, because this political graf is COMMON PLACE.   Because this is just the tip of the iceberg being exposed.

If anyone thinks what Q has been posting has a degree of truth to it, we KNOW this is just the beginning.  MASS resignations will happen.....and one of those WILL BE Lindsey.....if he is re elected.   And South Carolina has a Republican governor which I ASSUME would appoint his replacement.   If not some type of election would occur to fill his seat.

If he loses we are stuck with a DEM senator in SC for 6 years.

Something to think about

Make that a powerless Dim! Losing a big fuckin leftist RINO in the party is far better than a nobody Dim.

Quote from: ldub23 on October 24, 2020, 09:00:36 AM
Huh? You realize 50 dem votes  in the senate means the entire communist agenda  gets  passed?

The DNC is dead, they are not gaining any seats with the exception of Grahmnasty!

Quote from: Solar on October 24, 2020, 09:25:16 AM
Make that a powerless Dim! Losing a big fuckin leftist RINO in the party is far better than a nobody Dim.

Only powerless if we maintain the senate.    I THINK we will, but given the tsunami of corruption that will break after the election, enduring Grahamnesty for 6 months to a year more is better than a possible seat in DEM control keeping us from a super majority in that same time.... 


We  all know Mz Lindsey is neck deep in Deep State debauchery, he will be FORCED to resign along with probably 70% of congress....not to mention the judiciary and lifetime deep state policy makers.

on a related note....

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1320008650493206529

Quote from: Sauce on October 24, 2020, 09:58:26 AM
Only powerless if we maintain the senate.    I THINK we will, but given the tsunami of corruption that will break after the election, enduring Grahamnesty for 6 months to a year more is better than a possible seat in DEM control keeping us from a super majority in that same time.... 


We  all know Mz Lindsey is neck deep in Deep State debauchery, he will be FORCED to resign along with probably 70% of congress....not to mention the judiciary and lifetime deep state policy makers.

on a related note....

https://twitter.com/tracybeanz/status/1320008650493206529

That is not guaranteed though, the guy is slippery as Hell.
My point is, we've been feeding the Establishment machine in a rigged game for decades and we finally have a chance to kill it off.
The GOP would rig elections in their favor, E.G. running a RINO in a primary race, they'd keep a low profile while the other candidates battle it out.

In the end it would be between a Conservative and the RINO assuming the Conservative survived, then they play the fear card, they'd do their best to first destroy the other candidate, then they'd claim if we don't support the RINO, we'd undoubtedly lose to a Dim. So What!!! Read the article I pened nearly a decade ago, posted above.

Well, those days are over, we have the vote, we have this in the bag and we can afford to remove a single leftist cancer already anchored in the party.
A Dim is nowhere near the threat that a Grahmnasty is to the health of the party.

Yes, I get it, giving the left a seat is hard to swallow, but weakening the death grip the Establishment has over the GOP, is a trade off we can afford.

I've been hearing for YEARS that we are supposedly "close" to prosecutions yet, nothing ever happens. I've had it with Lindsay Graham and the rest of the RINO's who sit idly by while Democrats lie to the public aided by the liberal media. I can't blame Lou for being tired of all the rhetoric coming from the Republicans who then do absolutely NOTHING about the illegal activities of the Democrats!

The word is:   Graham is in trouble.   Control of the Senate is "in play".  Flipping the House - not an Icecube's chance in hell.

Florida & Pennsylvania are the ones to watch, both have lots of electoral votes.

IMO - many may cross over to vote for Donald Trump, but still vote Democrat for the rest.

Quote from: Hoofer on October 24, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
The word is:   Graham is in trouble.   Control of the Senate is "in play".  Flipping the House - not an Icecube's chance in hell.

Florida & Pennsylvania are the ones to watch, both have lots of electoral votes.

IMO - many may cross over to vote for Donald Trump, but still vote Democrat for the rest.

Trump will probably drag Graham over the line in SC.

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 24, 2020, 12:06:10 PM
Trump will probably drag Graham over the line in SC.

If not, get ready for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer..

I think.... Early voting is really messing with polling, my question, "Are the polls really worthless this year with the high rate of early voting?"

PP - "yes and no.  It makes it easier to vote, which boosts turnout, but both Dems and GOP take advantage of the convenience."

"How can you track the early voters?  I keep hearing Biden voters are outspoken, but Trump voters kinda silenced?"

PP - "It's Public RECORD in most states, the RNC gets daily updates from election boards"

The death of RBG was a catalyst that shoved everything into HIGH GEAR - for Dems.

IMO, even the internal pollsters are pulling their hair out with the high rate of early voting, and the fact that much of it too place *before* the last debate, might leave early Biden voters in energy producing with buyer's remorse!  So, the positive effect of the last debate (thanks to early voting), might be minimal, "I voted for Biden... but, should have voted for Trump".

Polls don't mean shit!

Quote from: Hoofer on October 24, 2020, 12:36:39 PM
If not, get ready for Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer..

I think.... Early voting is really messing with polling, my question, "Are the polls really worthless this year with the high rate of early voting?"

PP - "yes and no.  It makes it easier to vote, which boosts turnout, but both Dems and GOP take advantage of the convenience."

"How can you track the early voters?  I keep hearing Biden voters are outspoken, but Trump voters kinda silenced?"

PP - "It's Public RECORD in most states, the RNC gets daily updates from election boards"

The death of RBG was a catalyst that shoved everything into HIGH GEAR - for Dems.

IMO, even the internal pollsters are pulling their hair out with the high rate of early voting, and the fact that much of it too place *before* the last debate, might leave early Biden voters in energy producing with buyer's remorse!  So, the positive effect of the last debate (thanks to early voting), might be minimal, "I voted for Biden... but, should have voted for Trump".

RBG is yesterdays news. Libs have the attention span of a gnat, and RBG hasn't been in the news in a decade if you're a lib, they've already forgotten.

Quote from: Killer Clouds on October 24, 2020, 12:42:34 PM
Polls don't mean shit!

So, why do polling?   What is the real purpose of polling, and for example *one* of the ways they're used?

1.  Poll is taken, questions are *leading* toward one candidate "KC".
2.  Public thinks ... KC is wine drinking, Liberal who you'd never trust your wife or daughter, overnight at a motel 6, hates guns, etc., but... nobody is really SURE about "KC"...
3.  New Ad campaign features "KC" on a tractor, sees a Coyote stalking his wife & kid, he pulls a Winchester and scares the savage beast away - wife kisses him & serves up a huge steak & potato dinner with a beer.
4.  Poll is taken, more *leading* questions.
5.  Public opinion is "KC"'s opponent mis-characterized "KC" - meh, he's your "quiet, works hard, all-American stud, you'd feel comfortable having a beer & watching a UFC match together.
6.  "KC" thanks the pollsters, pays them more *money*, "Help me smear my opponent with negative ads, he's been cheating on his taxes... I think some anonymous source, meh, Harry Reid said.."
(that's basically the purpose of an "Internal Poll - which you don't see)

- you're right, the numbers YOU see, are meaningless to you, but the internal polling the hired guns see, make and/or break a candidate, and have a direct result on ADVERTISING you're subjected to.  What you see in the polls is basically more advertising, opinion shaping.


Now, consider this... if you come up with a "killer idea" for an issue, pass that along to the campaign, see if they make a commercial out of it.  I did, and was pleasantly surprised, they ran with it.

Quote from: Hoofer on October 24, 2020, 11:39:45 AM
The word is:   Graham is in trouble.   Control of the Senate is "in play".  Flipping the House - not an Icecube's chance in hell.

Florida & Pennsylvania are the ones to watch, both have lots of electoral votes.

IMO - many may cross over to vote for Donald Trump, but still vote Democrat for the rest.

Is there any chance of something unexpected to happen? You know, like NY turning red or something? 

Quote from: Estel on October 24, 2020, 01:18:40 PM
Is there any chance of something unexpected to happen? You know, like NY turning red or something? 

NY... yeah, if an asteroid hit NYC! 

I was thinking - hoping - this cycle was dramatically different than 2016, Red Wave, etc., nope.
Now I'm beginning to realize, these darn Millennials caught us old farts asleep and went for the political power grab!