I have 3 kids 27, 30 and 32.  All voted for Obama against my encouragement not to. Whey did I teach them that it is important to vote?  Anyway their reasons for voting for Obama were mostly based upon the lies that Obama's campaign spread.  Two are girls and they thought that Romney was going to take their rights away an make birth control illegal.  Then the belief that Romney was going to cut taxes for the rich and raise their taxes.

They were upset when they saw that 2% tax come back for SS.  Told them to thank Obama.  When the health care system cuts in I think they will find out that they walked happily into a trap. 

Oh one goodie that Obama created is a new way to pay for student loans.  Your payment is based on how much you make.  So if you get out of school and do not get a decent job you will end up paying virtually nothing against the loan.  The payment has zero connection to the amount borrowed so those who realize how the payback will work, are going to borrow as much as they can.   So we once again are funding those who know how to take advantage of the system.  School is not a bad job and If I knew that I could borrow as much as I could and only had to pay back at an amount equal to what is set for pay scale I would have borrowed more and probably stayed in school longer.  I have lots of education but back then you had to pay back what you borrowed. 

My point is that the govt is doing all that it can to remove consequences for anything.   Do not want to work hard, you get free stuff so you live like those who do work hard.  A mother with 2 kids on welfare and getting all the goodies lives like on who earns nearly 50K.  So no down side and no responsibility required. 

I have 3 kids 27, 30 and 32.  All voted for Obama against my encouragement not to. Whey did I teach them that it is important to vote?  Anyway their reasons for voting for Obama were mostly based upon the lies that Obama's campaign spread.  Two are girls and they thought that Romney was going to take their rights away an make birth control illegal.  Then the belief that Romney was going to cut taxes for the rich and raise their taxes.

They were upset when they saw that 2% tax come back for SS.  Told them to thank Obama.  When the health care system cuts in I think they will find out that they walked happily into a trap. 

Oh one goodie that Obama created is a new way to pay for student loans.  Your payment is based on how much you make.  So if you get out of school and do not get a decent job you will end up paying virtually nothing against the loan.  The payment has zero connection to the amount borrowed so those who realize how the payback will work, are going to borrow as much as they can.   So we once again are funding those who know how to take advantage of the system.  School is not a bad job and If I knew that I could borrow as much as I could and only had to pay back at an amount equal to what is set for pay scale I would have borrowed more and probably stayed in school longer.  I have lots of education but back then you had to pay back what you borrowed. 

My point is that the govt is doing all that it can to remove consequences for anything.   Do not want to work hard, you get free stuff so you live like those who do work hard.  A mother with 2 kids on welfare and getting all the goodies lives like on who earns nearly 50K.  So no down side and no responsibility required.

Don't remember where it was.  It said if your studying to be a nurse, doctor, policeman or teacher you would not have to pay it back.   

"Two are girls and they thought that Romney was going to take their rights away an make birth control illegal."



With all due respect if they could be that misinformed at the ages you mentioned, what does that say about those that voted for him?

I love when someone points out how ludicrous the truth can be.
You just pointed out how the average lib votes with the emotional equivalency to that of a 20 something female.
Love it!

I love when someone points out how ludicrous the truth can be.
You just pointed out how the average lib votes with the emotional equivalency to that of a 20 something female.
Love it!

Highschool, free safe sex when voting for b o. 

"Two are girls and they thought that Romney was going to take their rights away an make birth control illegal."



With all due respect if they could be that misinformed at the ages you mentioned, what does that say about those that voted for him?

We live in a very Dem dominated area and summer vacation area for Hillary when she was young so you are not going to hear many voices of dissension for any anti GOP comments.  My kids are like a lot of voters,  they hear a little bit here and there and then hear people talking about it.  They are not very into politics and partially vote because I keep telling them that it is important.  What I was getting at is that the media is so in the tank for Obama and of the clarity of their understanding or lack of understanding if they listen with half an ear to what is said on the news channels Obama is all for the common person and Romney was the devil who was just looking to shake down the middle class while only helping the upper class.   

Certainly their views were not based on total information but probably from discussions with friends who heard something from another friend.  A kernel of the original story but different. 

I think that for some time now the media plays a large role in deciding who will be our president.  Obama was a great story and something historical so there was no way they were going to say or do anything that would chance the story not becoming reality.   So the less informed think Obama is god.  The minorities are not going to vote for a white rich guy when they could vote for a black man that talks like MLK and is running on the idea that they got screwed by the rich guys and he is going to take their money back from the rich folks.  Well it would be their money if the rich did not keep it for themselves. 

So if all minorities, except for a small number vote for Obama and then say 10% of the casual voters vote based on what the media says well just that probably gives 30 or 40% of the vote.   So do the math and the other 60 or 70% have to vote overwhelmingly for Romney for it to even be a tie.  At the least he would need greater than 70% of the remaining voters to vote for him just to break even.  Toss in fraud and well an Obama win was almost a certainty.   I think 12 precincts in PA gave 100% of their votes to Obama. 

The GOP has to do what Mark Levin says and get rid of the fake conservatives and then they have to make their case.  They have to do what ever it takes to try and keep the media honest.  I would use some of their money to investigate news casters and celebrities.  They all have to have skeletons in their closet or do things that go against the lib beliefs.  Sort of shoot a shell across the bow.