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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Bassman on December 29, 2012, 04:52:41 PM

Title: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Bassman on December 29, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
http://www.ranker.com/list/republican-and-african-american-or-the-black-republican-list/famous-conservatives (http://www.ranker.com/list/republican-and-african-american-or-the-black-republican-list/famous-conservatives)

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Some of these even surprised me!
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Bassman on December 29, 2012, 04:53:18 PM
Uhh that should have been plural, sorry for the typo, folks.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
A large percentage of blacks tend to be social conservatives (which faux libertarians hate), but when it comes down to it most of even these will vote Demonrat. I suppose it's because of what they believe is their economic "best interest."

Even J.C. Watts and Armstrong Williams at the LEAST, talked about voting for Obama because of the historical precedence.  That's a shame that they would even CONSIDER putting aside their VALUES over race/blood ties.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Darth Fife on December 29, 2012, 09:46:11 PM
Something on one of the other lists caught my attention...

Alice Cooper is a Republican?!

WTF!
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: kramarat on December 29, 2012, 10:37:39 PM
If the republicans don't pull it together, they can expect all of those wonderful lists to get shorter.

No surprises on any of them. They are comprised of business people; they know that democrats will try to steal their earnings.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: mdgiles on December 30, 2012, 07:01:18 AM
Quote from: Yawn on December 29, 2012, 05:54:28 PM
A large percentage of blacks tend to be social conservatives (which faux libertarians hate), but when it comes down to it most of even these will vote Demonrat. I suppose it's because of what they believe is their economic "best interest."

Even J.C. Watts and Armstrong Williams at the LEAST, talked about voting for Obama because of the historical precedence.  That's a shame that they would even CONSIDER putting aside their VALUES over race/blood ties.
It isn't race/blood ties, it is simple economic interest. You would expect ANYONE on any type of governmental assistance to vote Dim; if you're Paul being paid from robbing Peter, that should be expected. Next is the number of blacks who work in the government: Federal, State and Municipal. Again, that's where you're "rice bowl" is at. Given our current fiscal plight; One of the places to cut back will be government employees and entitlements. I would be interested in seeing how that effects voting patterns among blacks.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 07:17:28 AM
Probably true, but it isn't true of people like Armstrong Williams or J.C. Watts. THAT'S what depresses Conservatives, that when it comes down to it, "we" degenerate to tribalism rather than reason.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Darth Fife on December 30, 2012, 07:51:42 AM
Quote from: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 07:17:28 AM
Probably true, but it isn't true of people like Armstrong Williams or J.C. Watts. THAT'S what depresses Conservatives, that when it comes down to it, "we" degenerate to tribalism rather than reason.

True, but in all fairness, there were plenty of notable white Republicans who either voted for, or seriously considered voting for Obama in '04 based solely on the "historic" nature of him being the first black (well, half black) president. 
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 12:07:05 PM
Quote from: Darth Fife on December 30, 2012, 07:51:42 AM
True, but in all fairness, there were plenty of notable white Republicans who either voted for, or seriously considered voting for Obama in '04 based solely on the "historic" nature of him being the first black (well, half black) president.

Maybe. Can you name any?  And you did say "Republicans."  I spoke of CONSERVATIVE black leaders (J. C. Watts, Armstrong Williams).
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Solar on December 30, 2012, 12:15:51 PM
Quote from: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 12:07:05 PM
Maybe. Can you name any?  And you did say "Republicans."  I spoke of CONSERVATIVE black leaders (J. C. Watts, Armstrong Williams).
I wouldn't call either of them Conservatives, both have advocated RINO ideals.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Darth Fife on December 30, 2012, 04:32:51 PM
Quote from: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 12:07:05 PM
Maybe. Can you name any?  And you did say "Republicans."  I spoke of CONSERVATIVE black leaders (J. C. Watts, Armstrong Williams).

First off, I meant to say '08...

Jeffery Hart - senior editor of National Review

Andrew Sullivan - author of The Conservative Soul

Scott McConnell - editor of The American Conservative

David Ruder - Chairman of the SEC under President Reagan

Wick Allison - Former publisher of The National Review

Julie Nixon Eisenhower - Daughter of Richard M. Nixon

Ken Duberstein - former Reagan Chief of Staff...

Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
And you're still insisting that these are CONSERVATIVES????  :lol:

Although she's not her father, Nixon was no conservative.  He gave us the EPA, and if I remember correctly, price controls.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Darth Fife on December 30, 2012, 07:27:26 PM
Quote from: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 05:41:48 PM
And you're still insisting that these are CONSERVATIVES????  :lol:

Although she's not her father, Nixon was no conservative.  He gave us the EPA, and if I remember correctly, price controls.

I never insisted any of them were conservatives...

My post.

True, but in all fairness, there were plenty of notable white Republicans who either voted for, or seriously considered voting for Obama in '04 based solely on the "historic" nature of him being the first black (well, half black) president. 

Your challenge.

Maybe. Can you name any?
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 07:31:16 PM
My whole point was that black CONSERVATIVES, when it comes down to it, put RACE above principle.  You are throwing in white REPUBLICANS to say they do it too.

I'm talking about CONSERVATIVES. As you SHOULD know, being a Republican doesn't make you conservative.
Title: Re: List of Conservative Black
Post by: Darth Fife on December 30, 2012, 08:00:10 PM
Quote from: Yawn on December 30, 2012, 07:31:16 PM
My whole point was that black CONSERVATIVES, when it comes down to it, put RACE above principle.  You are throwing in white REPUBLICANS to say they do it too.

I'm talking about CONSERVATIVES. As you SHOULD know, being a Republican doesn't make you conservative.

All I'm trying to say is "stupid" knows no color boundary!

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