Ky. clerk jailed for refusing to issue marriage licenses

Started by carlb, September 03, 2015, 10:51:12 AM

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kroz

Quote from: daidalos on September 08, 2015, 12:29:00 PM
What law is unconstitutional? The equal protection clause of the Constitution? That is what the Supreme court ruled on. This argument that something unconstitutional is going on, is bogus. The facts are, the Supreme court is the body that interprets the meaning of the Constitution. Not the perv hiring Tony Perkins of the Family rights council, nor this Clerk in Ky.

What do you have on Tony Perkins?  Let's see the proof that this man is anything but honorable.

daidalos

Quote from: kroz on September 08, 2015, 12:44:39 PM
What do you have on Tony Perkins?  Let's see the proof that this man is anything but honorable.
Josh Duggar. Mr. Perkins employed him to run his so called "family council". And please don't act like we all don't know who that is.
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kroz

Quote from: daidalos on September 08, 2015, 12:52:24 PM
Josh Duggar. Mr. Perkins employed him to run his so called "family council". And please don't act like we all don't know who that is.

Josh Duggar did NOT run the Family Research Council.  He was a very low rung on the ladder.

Many employers have unknowingly hired deceptive people.  That does not make Tony bad at all!

I have been in Tony's office and given thousands$$ to his organization.  It is one of the most reputable and effective conservative organizations in D.C.  I cannot say enough good things about Tony and his organization.... totally above reproach!

You simply do not know what you are talking about.

Solar

Quote from: daidalos on September 08, 2015, 12:29:00 PM
What law is unconstitutional? The equal protection clause of the Constitution? That is what the Supreme court ruled on. This argument that something unconstitutional is going on, is bogus. The facts are, the Supreme court is the body that interprets the meaning of the Constitution. Not the perv hiring Tony Perkins of the Family rights council, nor this Clerk in Ky.
Still dancing I see, as well as avoiding the obvious.
Now give me a straight answer.

Quit dancing around the issue. One more time, SOTUS wrote law, only Congress can write law.

Show me where the Govt is in the right.
You do realize, only Congress can write laws, right?

Did Congress violate the First? No, so how was it possible for SCOTUS to write law?
Come on Daidalos, you can do it, use that critical thinking, and give us a reasonable answering explaining how the govt had the right to do what they did.

First Amendment - Religion and Expression. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Why is this so hard to understand?
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Solar

Quote from: mrclose on September 08, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
Solar, daidalos and others are using the "Equal Protection Clause" as their talking point.

The problem that they have is .. Sodomites have exactly the same marriage and equality of protection that all of us have!

Sodomites are legally able to get married, just not to each other! :lol:
Yeah, using a bogus ruling to trample the Bill of Rights is by it's very nature illegal.
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Quote from: daidalos on September 08, 2015, 12:29:00 PM
What law is unconstitutional? The equal protection clause of the Constitution? That is what the Supreme court ruled on. This argument that something unconstitutional is going on, is bogus. The facts are, the Supreme court is the body that interprets the meaning of the Constitution. Not the perv hiring Tony Perkins of the Family rights council, nor this Clerk in Ky.

Where in the Constitution does it give the Supreme Court that power?
The Constitution says that Congress has the power to set the limits of the Supreme Court's jurisdiction.

In 1798, Virginia and Kentucky each passed a resolution declaring that
the states, not the Supreme Court, have the power to decide what is constitutional.
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carlb

Quote from: mrclose on September 08, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
Solar, daidalos and others are using the "Equal Protection Clause" as their talking point.

The problem that they have is .. Sodomites have exactly the same marriage and equality of protection that all of us have!

Sodomites are legally able to get married, just not to each other! :lol:

Well they could get "married" to each other. It's not "ILLEGAL." Its just that the State didn't recognize their "marriage." Now the federal government does, and they're forcing the states to recognize homo "marriage" too.

kroz

Quote from: carlb on September 08, 2015, 03:23:59 PM
Well they could get "married" to each other. It's not "ILLEGAL." Its just that the State didn't recognize their "marriage." Now the federal government does, and they're forcing the states to recognize homo "marriage" too.

Therein lies the problem.  The Constitution gives States autonomy on all issues not included in the Constitution.

SCOTUS cannot overrule the States on these matters.

But what do I know.  I only read the Constitution!   :ohmy:

Jarlaxle

Quote from: mrclose on September 08, 2015, 02:00:51 PM
Solar, daidalos and others are using the "Equal Protection Clause" as their talking point.

The problem that they have is .. Sodomites have exactly the same marriage and equality of protection that all of us have!

Sodomites are legally able to get married, just not to each other! :lol:

Just like blacks in 1966!  :rolleyes:

Serious question: how does the fact that two men can get married affect YOU.
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carlb

It's IMMORAL. It mocks marriage. As a citizen, I have the right to the same political representation as everybody else. States have rejected REDEFINING marriage. This court UNCONSTITUTIONALLY stepped in and IMPOSED its morality on the citizens of the states who rejected REDEFINING marriage

je_freedom

In Clark County (Springfield) Ohio,
Probate Judge Richard Carey says that gay marriage violates his Catholic faith,
so a Common Pleas judge agreed to take his place in such cases.

The ACLU sued.  That was not acceptable to them.
The law says that the marriage license is to be signed by the PROBATE judge.
So the Probate judge started just using the court stamp on the documents.

The ACLU is suing again.  They insist that THAT judge must sign HIS name on the document!
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Jarlaxle

Quote from: carlb on September 08, 2015, 04:34:49 PM
It's IMMORAL. It mocks marriage. As a citizen, I have the right to the same political representation as everybody else. States have rejected REDEFINING marriage. This court UNCONSTITUTIONALLY stepped in and IMPOSED its morality on the citizens of the states who rejected REDEFINING marriage

One more time:  how does the fact that two men can get married affect YOU. 
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Quote from: je_freedom on September 08, 2015, 05:04:15 PM
The ACLU is suing again.  They insist that THAT judge must sign HIS name on the document!

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Quote from: Jarlaxle on September 08, 2015, 06:09:40 PM
One more time:  how does the fact that two men can get married affect YOU.


One more time....or  maybe about a few dozen in my particular case. The Whole gay rights thing is not about equality but creating another privledged class of "victims" who can now claim they were discriminated against and demand special treatment.

I have repeated said this over the years and the fact that this woman was jailed over the issue proves it, Mess with a minority and now a Homo or Lesbo and the Govt will come down on you like a ton of bricks.

This means they now have more rights than you do.

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