Quote from: keyboarder on September 07, 2015, 06:58:48 PM
Don't let him ruin what's left of our holiday.   

When they figure out no one cares what they think, they usually move along on their own.

Quote from: keyboarder on September 07, 2015, 06:52:52 PM
Smells offensively like a liberal!  Seen his type of argument on those 3rd rated forums.   

I want illegal aliens rounded up and shot, guns sold to any non-felon over 18 cash-and-carry, and Obama living three cells away from Hillary.  Yeah, really "liberal", dude. 

Quote from: Jarlaxle on September 07, 2015, 06:14:26 PM
Straw man.

A hypothetical proposal is not strawman.  Learn what a strawman argument is before applying the label to others.

Quote from: Jarlaxle on September 07, 2015, 06:14:26 PM
Rest of post rendered meaningless by said straw man.

Answer the question.  Would you, or would you not obey a law which is blatantly unconstitutional, unjust, and and/or plain wrong?

No...I would resign my position in order to not do so.

Quote from: daidalos on September 07, 2015, 12:20:20 PM
It did when it wrote the equal protection clause. And when it later passed the DomAct. As I've said time and time again, had the Congress kept it's nose out of the marriage business to start with. There would never have been the door opened to start with.

However Congress didn't, Congress decided to interject itself into the situation. And once the Supremes got involved, and now that's the law of the land. If we don't like that, we are totally free to continue going to church, and lobby to effect a change in the law.

We are not however, nor has any American ever been, free to simply ignore the law, because we don't agree with, or like it.

And yes, even when those laws, are contrary to our religious sensibilities.

For example, take abortion. Most Christians are, vehemently against the practice of abortion.

And yet, if those same Christians go and blow up the abortion clinic, to kill those who are performing abortions, we put them in jail as murderers.

Yet to hear some tell it now, in this instance, since they were acting on their religiously held belief, they shouldn't be in prison for murdering the Abortion Dr. That's what those who try to defend this clerk are saying.

Are you Fkg serious??????....you really want to compare some nut blowing up and abortion clinic with someone who is DEFENDING a clerk who wouldn't issue a gay marriage license.....A PIECE OF PAPER?

There is something majorly wrong with that type of comparison, lumping all Christians into full fledged terrorist nut bag status.

I really doubt there was a violation of the "law' at all, I mean the gays could go to some other jurisdiction and get a license, but N000000000, they have to screech to stars like 3 year olds who cant have a cookie.

Quote from: Jarlaxle on September 07, 2015, 07:35:03 PM
No...I would resign my position in order to not do so.

And if the court said you had to give up your guns, would you?

Quote from: Dori on September 07, 2015, 07:41:56 PM
And if the court said you had to give up your guns, would you?

Sure, I would turn in all the ones that are registered. 

Quote from: Jarlaxle on September 07, 2015, 07:12:49 PM
I want illegal aliens rounded up and shot, guns sold to any non-felon over 18 cash-and-carry, and Obama living three cells away from Hillary.  Yeah, really "liberal", dude. 

No, that makes you a bigoted ass hole.

Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2015, 08:28:11 PM
No, that makes you a bigoted ass hole.

Hmm...  Would that be a liberal bigoted ass hole?

Quote from: Solar on September 07, 2015, 08:28:11 PM
No, that makes you a bigoted ass hole.

Not to mention a nanny state butt kissing coward.

QuoteJudge in Davis Case Ordered Students 'Re-Educated' on Homosexuality

U.S. District Court Judge David Bunning, who jailed Kentucky clerk Kim Davis for refusing to obey an order to issue same-sex marriage licenses through her office, once ordered Kentucky students to be "re-educated" about homosexuality.

The American Civil Liberties Union, which filed a lawsuit against the Rowan County clerk, in 2003 sued the Boyd County Board of Education to allow a "gay-straight" alliance club to be allowed to meet at a local high school, despite objections from parents, reports ChristianNews.net.

At first, court records show, the board suspended all student group meetings, but Bible and drama clubs met during the ban, so students with the gay-straight group contacted the ACLU, and Bunning eventually ordered the school board to allow the group to meet and be granted the same privileges other groups enjoyed.

In addition, Bunning ordered school staff and students to undergo diversity education, including on "issues of sexual orientation and gender harassment."

Students, though, objected to watching a video that said it is wrong to oppose homosexuality and that a person's sexuality can't be change, but discovered that they could not refuse without penalty, so they contacted the Alliance Defending Freedom organization for assistance, which in turn sued the board of education.

In 2006, Bunning ruled again that students must watch the video, saying the training did not mean they would have to change their religious beliefs.

The Sixth Circuit Court of Appeals overturned Bunning's ruling in October 2007, saying that a student involved in the suit could seek damages from the school district and that the training "chilled" his ability to express his views on homosexuality.

http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/judge-kim-davis-reeducation/2015/09/07/id/675543/#ixzz3lA3Rbsk6

seems the judge has had his hand slapped in the past over bad directives over homosexual cases before him! Should he have recused himself from this case?

Quote from: redbeard on September 08, 2015, 08:32:59 AM
seems the judge has had his hand slapped in the past over bad directives over homosexual cases before him! Should he have recused himself from this case?

Sounds like this judge might be in the closet on his own situation and wants everything to be in the clear when he is hauled out of the closet.  Never happen though, as long as there is one real life conservative around with a few morals.  Like the lady in Ky!

Well, the Ky lady is being released.  Don't know the details yet because I have been out all morning.

Quote from: keyboarder on September 08, 2015, 11:50:54 AM
Sounds like this judge might be in the closet on his own situation and wants everything to be in the clear when he is hauled out of the closet.  Never happen though, as long as there is one real life conservative around with a few morals.  Like the lady in Ky!

What's funny is she's a Democrat and the judge was appointed by Bush.

Quote from: zewazir on September 07, 2015, 07:30:30 PM
A hypothetical proposal is not strawman.  Learn what a strawman argument is before applying the label to others.
Answer the question.  Would you, or would you not obey a law which is blatantly unconstitutional, unjust, and and/or plain wrong?

What law is unconstitutional? The equal protection clause of the Constitution? That is what the Supreme court ruled on. This argument that something unconstitutional is going on, is bogus. The facts are, the Supreme court is the body that interprets the meaning of the Constitution. Not the perv hiring Tony Perkins of the Family rights council, nor this Clerk in Ky.