Quote from: Solar on November 06, 2019, 06:42:48 AM
BEVIN REFUSES TO CONCEDE AS KENTUCKY GOVERNOR RACE TOO CLOSE TO CALL

Republican incumbent Governor Matt Bevin refused to concede last night in Kentucky's gubernatorial race, citing unspecified "irregularities" — potentially kickstarting weeks of uncertainty as the closely-watched contest with national implications remains too close to call.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Bevin was behind Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear by 5,333 votes out of more than 1.4 million counted, 49.2 percent to 48.8 percent. Libertarian candidate John Hicks received 2 percent.

The history-making evening also saw Republicans decisively hold onto the governorship in Mississippi despite a fierce Democratic challenge, while electing Kentucky's first black attorney general. Democrats, meanwhile, took complete control over the Virginia statehouse for the first time in 26 years.

The Associated Press said it could not declare a winner, owing to the tight margin. The Democratic National Committee and Beshear's campaign, however, claimed victory.

http://1057news.com/2019/11/06/07/58/02/bevin-refuses-to-concede-as-kentucky-governor-race-too-close-to-call/

Thats nice but reps dont  have a good  history  of  finding "lost" votes to win recounts.

Quote from: Solar on November 06, 2019, 06:42:48 AM
BEVIN REFUSES TO CONCEDE AS KENTUCKY GOVERNOR RACE TOO CLOSE TO CALL

Republican incumbent Governor Matt Bevin refused to concede last night in Kentucky's gubernatorial race, citing unspecified "irregularities" — potentially kickstarting weeks of uncertainty as the closely-watched contest with national implications remains too close to call.

With 100 percent of precincts reporting, Bevin was behind Democratic Attorney General Andy Beshear by 5,333 votes out of more than 1.4 million counted, 49.2 percent to 48.8 percent. Libertarian candidate John Hicks received 2 percent.

The history-making evening also saw Republicans decisively hold onto the governorship in Mississippi despite a fierce Democratic challenge, while electing Kentucky's first black attorney general. Democrats, meanwhile, took complete control over the Virginia statehouse for the first time in 26 years.

The Associated Press said it could not declare a winner, owing to the tight margin. The Democratic National Committee and Beshear's campaign, however, claimed victory.

http://1057news.com/2019/11/06/07/58/02/bevin-refuses-to-concede-as-kentucky-governor-race-too-close-to-call/

And  in MS i guess "decisively" is  in the eye  of the  beholder. In 2015 the rep won the gov race  by  34%. Last  night  it was a shockingly  low  5.6%.

Quote from: ldub23 on November 06, 2019, 07:08:38 AM
And  in MS i guess "decisively" is  in the eye  of the  beholder. In 2015 the rep won the gov race  by  34%. Last  night  it was a shockingly  low  5.6%.

When the leftist AP refuses to call it, that should tell you something.

Why are you even here? You act like the world is ending over one race. It's not! The majority of people here know we are winning, but for some fucked reason you seem compelled to shit on everything, even while we're winning. Why is that?

Quote from: Kentucky_Conservative on November 06, 2019, 06:52:36 AM
Every time this happens, I have to wonder if the liberals don't PAY some no chance in HELL of winning BOZO to run on the Independent Party or the Libertarian Party or the Green Party ... JUST to split the vote count that would otherwise BURY the liberal candidate.  It happened with Perot, and in so many other elections.

Elections SHOULD be held this way...

Ballot #1 - Do you want candidates with CONSERVATIVE VALUES or SOCIALIST VALUES to hold this office?  NO NAMES are given.

Everyone votes, and in KENTUCKY, the vote would be solidly CONSERVATIVE.

Ballot #2, held a YEAR later, AFTER the candidates who all embrace the chosen DIRECTION the country should have have had plenty of time to campaign  - "Do you want Conservative candidate #1, #2, or #3?"

Obama won with the steady 42% of the vote, which means 58% of the country DID NOT WANT that filthy traitorous homosexual Sodomite as president.  But our election system put him in TWICE, by splitting the conservative vote. 

Our system is FLAWED, and we will continue to put these filthy animals into office against the will if the majority that the LIBERAL voters keep b*tching about counting until that system is CHANGED so that the PLATFORM of all possible winning candidates are shared by those from among whom the Electoral College shall make it's choice.

I sometime express some views on this forum which are not well received.  Perhaps it is due to the fact that I am a Conservative living in a state dominated by Liberals, Far Leftists and outright Communists, that I sometimes have to accept that any Republican is  better than the alternative.  Such Republicans are often called RINOS because they are not reliable to go along with everything that we Conservatives want.  I myself once voted for Ross Parot because he represented my personal political views far better than the RINO George Herbert Walker Bush.  I not only threw away my vote, I helped to create the Clinton dynasty and the Clinton political machine, by not voting to stop Bill Clinton dead in his tracks.  My Bad, but I learned to understand and respect Ronald Reagan's eleventh commandment!  Someone who you agree with only eighty percent of the time is far better than someone who you not only disagree with on pretty much everything, but someone who will gain power to destroy everything you do believe in and hold sacred.  It kind of reminds me of what Donald Rumsfeld said about hwo we go to war with the miitary we have; not necessarily they one we would like to have.

Quote from: wally on November 06, 2019, 08:13:50 AM
I sometime express some views on this forum which are not well received.  Perhaps it is due to the fact that I am a Conservative living in a state dominated by Liberals, Far Leftists and outright Communists, that I sometimes have to accept that any Republican is  better than the alternative.  Such Republicans are often called RINOS because they are not reliable to go along with everything that we Conservatives want.  I myself once voted for Ross Parot because he represented my personal political views far better than the RINO George Herbert Walker Bush.  I not only threw away my vote, I helped to create the Clinton dynasty and the Clinton political machine, by not voting to stop Bill Clinton dead in his tracks.  My Bad, but I learned to understand and respect Ronald Reagan's eleventh commandment!  Someone who you agree with only eighty percent of the time is far better than someone who you not only disagree with on pretty much everything, but someone who will gain power to destroy everything you do believe in and hold sacred.  It kind of reminds me of what Donald Rumsfeld said about hwo we go to war with the miitary we have; not necessarily they one we would like to have.

But Wally, hindsight being 20/20. The RINO Establishment has enabled the Marxists to make their gains we see today, so in truth, it was the RINO that gave us Trump. Observing the Establishment enable the Marxist Obozo bring about the Dims socialist plan, it brought us Trump.
So in truth, you were Right to vote Perot, you sent a message to the GOP, so they tried even harder to help the left, out of fear of becoming irrelevant.

The only way we can save this country is to never vote for a leftist just because he has an R next to his name. The Establishment counts on your fear of the left, that's why they run these scum, they know you'll vote for them, so why run a Conservative?
Let's force the party to run  actual Conservatives.

Quote from: Kentucky_Conservative on November 06, 2019, 06:52:36 AM
Every time this happens, I have to wonder if the liberals don't PAY some no chance in HELL of winning BOZO to run on the Independent Party or the Libertarian Party or the Green Party ... JUST to split the vote count that would otherwise BURY the liberal candidate.  It happened with Perot, and in so many other elections.

In 2015 the third party actually has almost twice the percentage they received last night. The difference this time was Louisville/Jefferson County. Everything else looked the same except for a few eastern counties that did not have enough votes to sway anything. 
Bevin lost Jefferson county by less than 40,00 votes in 2015 but by 100,000 votes this time. That is a 60,000 vote swing.

As far as voting for an party over a candidate, that is not for me. I do but I want to chose the person more than ever and that may include third party or choosing not to vote. Let's say Kasich won the primary in 2016 as an example and Trump, Cruz or Rand Paul ran as third party. I want to win now, not pretend I won because someone has the correct letter beside the name.   

I lived in KY and VA (I moved around) so I am also very disappointed. Lexington, KY was everything I expected in the vote but I cannot explain Louisville. The VA coast is filled with transplants and that has changed the state since DC suburbs were always filled with government workers and vote Democrat.

Quote from: Solar on November 06, 2019, 08:41:55 AM
But Wally, hindsight being 20/20. The RINO Establishment has enabled the Marxists to make their gains we see today, so in truth, it was the RINO that gave us Trump. Observing the Establishment enable the Marxist Obozo bring about the Dims socialist plan, it brought us Trump.
So in truth, you were Right to vote Perot, you sent a message to the GOP, so they tried even harder to help the left, out of fear of becoming irrelevant.

The only way we can save this country is to never vote for a leftist just because he has an R next to his name. The Establishment counts on your fear of the left, that's why they run these scum, they know you'll vote for them, so why run a Conservative?
Let's force the party to run  actual Conservatives.

Solar, I respect you and value your opinion.  However, I was not right to vote for Parot.  I agree that we, who did vote for Parot, 'sent a message to the GOP' but the cost of the postage for the delivery of that message America is still paying.  Had George HW Bush been reelected, the Clintons would have never gained the power they still have  The final act of this play is still to unfold and although I remain optimistic, the result of us cutting off our noses to spite our face is that the evil force of Marxism is now so formidable they hardly even attempt to disguise it. 

The answer why not run a Conservative is pretty obvious.  Both you and I supported Ted Cruz (and therefore opposed Donald Trump). In many ways, Trump cut across party lines.  He may not have gotten the votes for many Democrats, last time, but he got millions of Americans to come out and vote for him, who had never voted before. Many of these folks were (are) sick of the labels and the politics and the parties.    Trump has embraced many of our Conservative positions simply because he can see this country has drifted far too much to the Left and the pendulum has to swing back a long long ways to the Right before America is even Center-Right, once again.  That doesn't make him a Conservative.  It proves him to be pragmatic and super intelligent enough to do exactly what needed to be done at this point in American history.  I think I know you well enough that you are aware of the fact that even though Donald Trump does so many wonderful things that are very conservative, he has a New York City streak of Liberalism which pops up from time to time.  He is not a Conservative Purest and were he a Congressman or a Senator he might cast his vote for things we oppose.  As President, he stays on message in order to accomplish his goal of putting America First and making us great again and keeping us that way. However, he would like to give our money to those who he thinks could really use it and at several times he obviously has listened to his Conservative base when he follows his feelings into the same swampy quagmire where the RINO breed, but eventually does a 180.  I see DOnald Trump as a neophyte COnservative in Training!  But that's ok!   He's done far more than most "true Conservatives" could have done against this corrupt, Leftist cabal.

Quote from: wally on November 06, 2019, 01:36:01 PM
Solar, I respect you and value your opinion.  However, I was not right to vote for Parot.  I agree that we, who did vote for Parot, 'sent a message to the GOP' but the cost of the postage for the delivery of that message America is still paying.  Had George HW Bush been reelected, the Clintons would have never gained the power they still have  The final act of this play is still to unfold and although I remain optimistic, the result of us cutting off our noses to spite our face is that the evil force of Marxism is now so formidable they hardly even attempt to disguise it. 

The answer why not run a Conservative is pretty obvious.  Both you and I supported Ted Cruz (and therefore opposed Donald Trump). In many ways, Trump cut across party lines.  He may not have gotten the votes for many Democrats, last time, but he got millions of Americans to come out and vote for him, who had never voted before. Many of these folks were (are) sick of the labels and the politics and the parties.    Trump has embraced many of our Conservative positions simply because he can see this country has drifted far too much to the Left and the pendulum has to swing back a long long ways to the Right before America is even Center-Right, once again.  That doesn't make him a Conservative.  It proves him to be pragmatic and super intelligent enough to do exactly what needed to be done at this point in American history.  I think I know you well enough that you are aware of the fact that even though Donald Trump does so many wonderful things that are very conservative, he has a New York City streak of Liberalism which pops up from time to time.  He is not a Conservative Purest and were he a Congressman or a Senator he might cast his vote for things we oppose.  As President, he stays on message in order to accomplish his goal of putting America First and making us great again and keeping us that way. However, he would like to give our money to those who he thinks could really use it and at several times he obviously has listened to his Conservative base when he follows his feelings into the same swampy quagmire where the RINO breed, but eventually does a 180.  I see DOnald Trump as a neophyte COnservative in Training!  But that's ok!   He's done far more than most "true Conservatives" could have done against this corrupt, Leftist cabal.

My bad, I didn't finish my point. Had Clinton not won, we'd still be in the death grip of the RINO Leftist Establishment.
Point being, it's best that the left won with Klinton and the Marxist, it was the Base's wake up call. Had these two events not occurred, you me and all the other Boomers would be gone and no one left to fight before they would have gained power again.
I truly believe the GOP showed its true colors under the likes of Mitten, McStain and Ryan. The base needed the wake up call to what had become of the GOP, just another appendage of the Dim Marxist party.

I'm glad history panned out the way it did, or we most likely would have never gotten a Trump to save the Nation from the communist incursion into both party's before it was too late.
I agree, Trump is no Conservative, and I'm more than fine with that, it took a Trump like character to take on the commie menace.  MAGA!

Quote from: ldub23 on November 06, 2019, 05:14:09 AM
I said in 2018 reps would lose the house and senate while most on here said both were safe. They lost the  house big and  hung  onto the senate. 2020 they lose the senate. One other thing about VA. The dem gov, AG, and lt gov wearing black face and being accused of rape didnt matter a twit. Dems stick together. At trumps trial in the senate alot of reps will vote guilty to get rid  of  him.

If the senate convicts trump we will have have the real civil war.

Quote from: wally on November 06, 2019, 05:56:48 AM
Beshear only on by 5000 votes; less than a percentage point.  2% of the vote went to the third party candidate,  All the other races were won by Republicans.  I suspect the defeat of Matthew Bevin had far more to do with the 28, 426 votes that went to the Libertarian candidate, John Hicks, than any external factor.

https://wchstv.com/news/election-results

Why not voter fraud? We know they do it all the time and there are plenty of corrupted and outdated voter rolls to be taken advantage of. That's the only part of dem corruption I havent seen trump destroy and I'm curious why he hasent yet.

Quote from: Bronx on November 07, 2019, 05:33:13 AM

KY reps are indeed idiots

Looks more and more this was not an election loss for Trump. Before Trump stepped in, Bevin was running 15% behind, Trump brought him up to a draw. Bevin was not well liked, had the rep. ran a better candidate, no doubt he/she would have won, all the rest of the rep. did. I keep hoping the rep. learn, bash the tea party and you lose.

And people say the tea party is dead.

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2019/11/kentuckys_new_star.html



""While Gov. Bevin was not re-elected, it certainly was not in any way the fault of President Trump, who brought out a record Kentucky turnout for Republicans in odd-number-year elections.  I thought this May, Gov. Bevin, despite all his amateur mistakes (he had moved here only in the late 1990s and entered politics just in 2014), could win if he focused the election on his Biden-like, corrupt opponent.  Instead, he continued to needlessly offend people, engaging all summer in an idiotic feud with the lieutenant governor he dumped from the ticket, costing him many deep red counties, where she was a Tea Party favorite.""

Dems are so much smarter than reps. Dems control va and they will never split a ticket.