Just a Theory from a Christian point of view.

Started by Rasputttin, November 23, 2014, 05:24:04 PM

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Rasputttin

I am new to the board and am not sure how this will be received. I've come to understand that some conservatives aren't really Christians. A fact that always confounded me as I grew up in a conservative Christian home. I always thought conservative was just political Christianity. Stupid thought I guess but we were all once young and idealistic. It seems many conservatives are really just anti communist,which is a good thing. Nothing wrong with hating the commies, I do it everyday myself ,but there has to be more to it.

Don't get me wrong. I am far from a religious person. I hate religion and don't even attend a church. I spent my youth as a hellion and feel totally blessed that I came out of my youth in as good of shape as I did. It could've been much worse. I do study the bible and fellowship with other Christians. Just not in a church kinda way.

So much for the preface. Here's my point. I've been struggling for the longest time with the behavior of the republican party. I ask myself, why don't they fight more? Why don't they resist more? Why do they not represent those who elected them? Why do they seem paralyzed? It's as if they can't do anything. It's as if they are under a spell.

I believe we are living in the last days as predicted in the Bible. I realize that every generation has said such things but eventually one of them will be right and I think we are that generation. I have come to believe that the reason the republican party is so incompetent is because God does not want use putting our faith in them. Our faith belongs in God. Republicans can not save us. God has made them impotent.

Why else would they act as they do? Would you have me believe that they are all secretly working with democrats? That they are all closet leftist and it's a great conspiracy? It just doesn't make sense. As much as I don't like McConnell and the like I really don't believe they are closet leftists. I believe their is something bigger at work.


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Solar

Bottom line, Pubs are nothing more than crony capitalists with no interest in doing what they we're elected to do, which is why TEA made the gains it did and why rino refer to us as the enemy.
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Quote from: Rasputttin on November 23, 2014, 05:24:04 PM
I am new to the board and am not sure how this will be received. I've come to understand that some conservatives aren't really Christians. A fact that always confounded me as I grew up in a conservative Christian home. I always thought conservative was just political Christianity. Stupid thought I guess but we were all once young and idealistic. It seems many conservatives are really just anti communist,which is a good thing. Nothing wrong with hating the commies, I do it everyday myself ,but there has to be more to it.

Don't get me wrong. I am far from a religious person. I hate religion and don't even attend a church. I spent my youth as a hellion and feel totally blessed that I came out of my youth in as good of shape as I did. It could've been much worse. I do study the bible and fellowship with other Christians. Just not in a church kinda way.

So much for the preface. Here's my point. I've been struggling for the longest time with the behavior of the republican party. I ask myself, why don't they fight more? Why don't they resist more? Why do they not represent those who elected them? Why do they seem paralyzed? It's as if they can't do anything. It's as if they are under a spell.

I believe we are living in the last days as predicted in the Bible. I realize that every generation has said such things but eventually one of them will be right and I think we are that generation. I have come to believe that the reason the republican party is so incompetent is because God does not want use putting our faith in them. Our faith belongs in God. Republicans can not save us. God has made them impotent.

Why else would they act as they do? Would you have me believe that they are all secretly working with democrats? That they are all closet leftist and it's a great conspiracy? It just doesn't make sense. As much as I don't like McConnell and the like I really don't believe they are closet leftists. I believe their is something bigger at work.
Not all Christians are conservative and not all conservatives are Christian you don't have to be Christian to have a good moral judgment. :blink: :blink:

suzziY

Quote from: Rasputttin on November 23, 2014, 05:24:04 PM
I am new to the board and am not sure how this will be received. I've come to understand that some conservatives aren't really Christians. A fact that always confounded me as I grew up in a conservative Christian home. I always thought conservative was just political Christianity. Stupid thought I guess but we were all once young and idealistic. It seems many conservatives are really just anti communist,which is a good thing. Nothing wrong with hating the commies, I do it everyday myself ,but there has to be more to it.

Don't get me wrong. I am far from a religious person. I hate religion and don't even attend a church. I spent my youth as a hellion and feel totally blessed that I came out of my youth in as good of shape as I did. It could've been much worse. I do study the bible and fellowship with other Christians. Just not in a church kinda way.

So much for the preface. Here's my point. I've been struggling for the longest time with the behavior of the republican party. I ask myself, why don't they fight more? Why don't they resist more? Why do they not represent those who elected them? Why do they seem paralyzed? It's as if they can't do anything. It's as if they are under a spell.

I believe we are living in the last days as predicted in the Bible. I realize that every generation has said such things but eventually one of them will be right and I think we are that generation. I have come to believe that the reason the republican party is so incompetent is because God does not want use putting our faith in them. Our faith belongs in God. Republicans can not save us. God has made them impotent.

Why else would they act as they do? Would you have me believe that they are all secretly working with democrats? That they are all closet leftist and it's a great conspiracy? It just doesn't make sense. As much as I don't like McConnell and the like I really don't believe they are closet leftists. I believe their is something bigger at work.

Welcome.  Our faith does belong in God and he is in control.  I have been told that we all have free will.  That is a concept that I struggle with as God knows what our decisions are going to be and certainly he knows the outcome and future results of what was just handed to this country by Obama.

I have questioned why 534 members of Congress have been unable to stop the Marxist that we have in office.  IMO there is very little difference between the two parties and yes, I believe that most members of Congress are of the same country club.  The American people have failed to hold their elected officials accountable and secondly they would rather see the "party" win rather than elect the best candidate for the job.  Most importantly many people have forgotten that "We the People" are the government and the government works for us.  Our elected officials have become experts on blaming each other and making it appear that they are actually doing something.  The only thing that most of them are doing is lining their own pockets and assuring themselves of a comfortable existence.  There are lots of "conspiracies" out there, and for the most part unfortunately I don't feel that they are conspiracies at all, rather it is truly what is happening to this country.

I believe it has been the intent of this president to bring this country down and was "groomed" by wealthy individuals to do so. Most troubling has been the blatant attack on Christianity since this president has been in office and perhaps even more troubling is his disregard for Israel.  Again, I haven't quite figured out why no one has stopped him and I have a feeling that unfortunately, we will have our answer sooner than later.

TEA has been our only hope, but ultimately our true hope lies with God.
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Solar

Just a heads up. I'll be moving this to the religion forum but not until I finish dinner first. :laugh:
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Gator Monroe

The whole idea that Socialist leaning Progressive Democrats & Constitutionalist Conservative Republicans are the same is hilarious ... :popcorn:

Billy's bayonet

I'll take a stab at that.

You HAVE to have people of GOOD MORAL CHARACTER in positions of authority and leading the country. Such has always be associated by a belief in God and the principals in the bible. But the problem is the MARXISTS have succeeded in eroding religion and attacking the basis of morality...a loving HETEROSEXUAL family...to the point where a lot of politicians are I think inwardly afraid to espouse such principal.

These people are truly cowards, they have traded their morality for a few "alternative" votes.  The problem with some of these RINO pubs is Their morality has eroded over the years by DC's politics and they have lost their way.

Now I'm not a real religious type of guy, I'm a Christian and a believer and I try to be a decent person (even though I've probably broken every one of the ten commandments some in multiples). But i shy away from organized religion especially the Catholic Church I was raised in (Much to the Chargrin of Mrs Billy a devout Catholic). In addition to a completely corrupted Clergy they have a decided leftist slant which I can't tolerate.

We need new blood, younger people of good moral fiber, Family Men and Women.






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Rasputttin

Quote from: redbeard on November 23, 2014, 05:46:35 PM
Not all Christians are conservative and not all conservatives are Christian you don't have to be Christian to have a good moral judgment. :blink: :blink:

I hear ya but that's also why I don't attend church. Our churches are polluted with PC teachings. I have a great suspicion of leftist Christians. It seems to me they worship the God of their making not the God of Abraham.

As for good moral judgement. Where did we get our morals from? Christianty was the foundation for western civilization. As much as secular Americans hate to admit it. They too came from this foundation. Many of them have the morals yet deny the God that gave them.
Democrats love me this I know. For the TV tells me so.

Gator Monroe

Quote from: Rasputttin on November 23, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
I hear ya but that's also why I don't attend church. Our churches are polluted with PC teachings. I have a great suspicion of leftist Christians. It seems to me they worship the God of their making not the God of Abraham.

As for good moral judgement. Where did we get our morals from? Christianty was the foundation for western civilization. As much as secular Americans hate to admit it. They too came from this foundation. Many of them have the morals yet deny the God that gave them.
PC Teachings (10 commandments / Old testament morals ? )

Rasputttin

Quote from: Solar on November 23, 2014, 05:35:49 PM
Bottom line, Pubs are nothing more than crony capitalists with no interest in doing what they we're elected to do, which is why TEA made the gains it did and why rino refer to us as the enemy.

So do you think the Tea Party can save us. I am a Tea Bagger myself, as the left likes to call us,but I think our problems are so deep and we are so few.
Democrats love me this I know. For the TV tells me so.

Rasputttin

Quote from: Gator Monroe on November 23, 2014, 05:57:03 PM
The whole idea that Socialist leaning Progressive Democrats & Constitutionalist Conservative Republicans are the same is hilarious ... :popcorn:

I agree. And that's my point. I don't believe republicans are conspiring with leftists to destroy this country. I believe they have been rendered impotent so we will put our faith where it belongs.
Democrats love me this I know. For the TV tells me so.

Gator Monroe

Callin g oneself a "Tea Bagger" is like a Lefty calling His/Herself a "Pinko" ( Very unusual) :popcorn:

Solar

Quote from: Rasputttin on November 23, 2014, 06:08:22 PM
So do you think the Tea Party can save us. I am a Tea Bagger myself, as the left likes to call us,but I think our problems are so deep and we are so few.
It's not a party, rater a shared ideal, an ideal that kicked ass in 2010 and this Bloody Nov Slaughter, bot historic.
Point is, the nation has finally awakened to the real threat of losing the country they always took for granted, though a bit late, they're fighting back in a huge way.

And yes, I see it recovering, though the battle hhas only just begun.
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Gator Monroe

The "Winning" of the battle came from more folks FINALLY getting it ! (That there are two viable political Parties right now , so choosing the direction of America means picking ONE of the two for now)

DaisyJane

This is an extremely interesting discussion.  In the end, God is in control.

I also have wracked my brain trying to figure out why there hasn't been stronger opposition to such blatant destruction.  I still struggle with why people elected this twice.

I still think the majority are opposed to actions in Washington.  I believe credible candidates could win easily on that platform.  I don'tunderstand why it is rejected.

The closest I can get is the country club theory.  And perceived outsiders need not apply.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

DaisyJane