JUDICIAL WATCH: 'OBAMA CAN STILL BE IMPEACHED'

Started by Solar, May 22, 2018, 10:15:30 AM

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f Congress is considering impeachment charges related to the 2016 election, they should center not on President Trump but on former President Obama "and his Nixonian use of various agencies to target candidate Trump," contends Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton.

"If there is anyone who needs to be on the dock, it would be President Obama," he said in an interview Monday with WND.

Fitton's organization, with 30 lawsuits already in motion, has relentlessly pursued documents and communications related to the Obama administration's investigation of alleged collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign through Freedom of Information Act requests.

"The very nature of the activity suggests President Obama would have been advised and approved of the counter-intelligence/spy operation against candidate Trump," Fitton said.

The Judicial Watch chief was referring to the operation codenamed "Crossfire Hurricane," reported May 16 by the New York Times, which had at least one "government informant" in the Trump campaign who met several times with campaign volunteers Carter Page and George Papadopoulos.

Fitton said publicly available information indicates Obama approved of the activity.

He noted the Jan. 6, 2017, meeting at Trump Tower in which then-FBI director James Comey informed Trump of the "salacious and unverified" allegation in the Steele dossier of an incident with prostitutes at a Moscow hotel. Trump later said he thought Comey was trying to blackmail him. Obama's national security adviser, Susan Rice, Fitton pointed out, later wrote a "CYA" email to memorialize a Jan. 5, 2017, Oval Office meeting she attended with Obama and Comey in which they discussed confronting Trump the next day with the dossier information.

Rice wrote to herself: "President Obama began the conversation by stressing his continued commitment to ensuring that every aspect of this issue is handled by the Intelligence and law enforcement communities 'by the book.' The President stressed that he is not asking about, initiating or instructing anything from a law enforcement perspective. He reiterated that our law enforcement team needs to proceed as it normally would by the book."

Fitton explained that his tweet Sunday, saying "Obama, btw, can still be impeached," was to generate discussion about holding Obama accountable, not to suggest that impeachment necessarily would be the best course of action if evidence warranted prosecution. He wanted to emphasize, amid all the impeachment talk by Democrats on Capitol Hill, that if anybody should be impeached, the evidence indicates it should be Obama. William Murphy, a professor of American history at State University of New York at Oswego, confirmed that Congress could impeach a former president, noting the penalties of conviction including a ban from holding future office.

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Fitton pointed out that the White House won't be subject to public-records disclosure for years, but Congress can obtain them, and the president has authority to release the records as well.

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That would be glorious.

Even if the democrats turn it into the race riots to end all riots.

As the bookend to the "Get Trump" campaign, nothing could be sweeter.

But even pissed off Trump would probably say "naaah, not good for the country.  Let's put some other idiots in jail instead".

I don't think we'll see real justice for Obama.  Unspoken presidential pardon.  I'm hoping the line starts with HRC and WJC, then everybody else on down.

Maybe Trump will go as far as to disgrace Obama publicly with the truth.  That would be an OK compromise I guess.  And then say "we don't prosecute presidents"...... so everyone knows he should be.

AndyJackson

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But......... in the great fantasy in my mind........... the deep state goes overboard and takes a mis-aimed pot shot at somebody in Trump's family..........

Trump loses his mind and just whips out -

-Prosecution of every last democrat / obama hack that he has the goods on

-McCain and RINO pals too

-Blows out the JFK truth

-Goes full bore on Awans, Seth Rich, Sex Slush Fund, Clinton Foundation, Weiner Laptop, F & F, Benghazi, Iran Cash

-Drops the bomb on the false flag business and Arkanside industry

+ 20 other things just like this


A guy can dream .........

Cryptic Bert

Wouldn't that be racist?

At least he's have a legacy.

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Solar

I was just reading the comments on Discuss and some guy who claims to have inside knowledge, just posted this.


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3) CNN, AP, and MSNBC....

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5) My one source inside one of these networks has informed me that the FCC has arrived and has seized all kinds of document as part of their investigation, including all of the source data the networks were using for their stories.

9:49 AM - 22 May 2018

https://twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/998969018781523975
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Solar

I can't find any other source for this, but I found out CNN and MSNBC have at least 160 viewers. :lol:


Media's 'Sh*thole' Coverage Draws Over 160 FCC Complaints, CNN Got the Most

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb/geoffrey-dickens/2018/04/04/medias-shthole-coverage-draws-over-160-fcc-complaints-cnn-got
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Quote from: Solar on May 22, 2018, 06:59:21 PM
I was just reading the comments on Discuss and some guy who claims to have inside knowledge, just posted this.


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3) CNN, AP, and MSNBC....

Kyle


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5) My one source inside one of these networks has informed me that the FCC has arrived and has seized all kinds of document as part of their investigation, including all of the source data the networks were using for their stories.

9:49 AM - 22 May 2018

https://twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/998969018781523975



This should be out on the MSM if true in no time at all I would think.
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Solar

Quote from: walkstall on May 22, 2018, 07:16:04 PM


This should be out on the MSM if true in no time at all I would think.
Yeah, odd, it was posted hours ago and nothing so far, Not sure it's all that credible.
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Quote from: Solar on May 22, 2018, 06:59:21 PM
I was just reading the comments on Discuss and some guy who claims to have inside knowledge, just posted this.


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3) CNN, AP, and MSNBC....

Kyle


@HNIJohnMiller
Follow Follow @HNIJohnMiller
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5) My one source inside one of these networks has informed me that the FCC has arrived and has seized all kinds of document as part of their investigation, including all of the source data the networks were using for their stories.

9:49 AM - 22 May 2018

https://twitter.com/HNIJohnMiller/status/998969018781523975

That would be amazing!  Every hour new stuff keeps coming out.
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This is definitely one of the dumbest articles I have read in a very long time.  Since the OP does not know the meaning of the word "impeachment" I should explain that it is a process for removing someone from political office.  If they are no longer in a political office, then they cannot be impeached.  This is an obvious case of civic illiteracy.

Former Presidents are no different from anyone else.  If they commit a crime they can be charged and prosecuted.  If Obama committed a criminal act while President he can be charged and prosecuted now that he is no longer President.  A sitting President enjoys a certain immunity from the law.  However, a former President has no such immunity and does not need to be impeached since they no longer hold any political office.

It should also be noted that a President who uses the FBI, IRS, or any other part of the federal government against a candidate has committed an impeachable offense, but not a criminal act.  Which means that Obama cannot be charged for any crime, assuming he did order the FBI to spy on Trump.

Solar

Quote from: |Glitch| on May 23, 2018, 01:18:16 AM
This is definitely one of the dumbest articles I have read in a very long time.  Since the OP does not know the meaning of the word "impeachment" I should explain that it is a process for removing someone from political office.  If they are no longer in a political office, then they cannot be impeached.  This is an obvious case of civic illiteracy.

Former Presidents are no different from anyone else.  If they commit a crime they can be charged and prosecuted.  If Obama committed a criminal act while President he can be charged and prosecuted now that he is no longer President.  A sitting President enjoys a certain immunity from the law.  However, a former President has no such immunity and does not need to be impeached since they no longer hold any political office.

It should also be noted that a President who uses the FBI, IRS, or any other part of the federal government against a candidate has committed an impeachable offense, but not a criminal act.  Which means that Obama cannot be charged for any crime, assuming he did order the FBI to spy on Trump.
Maybe you should actually take a civics class and read up on what "Impeachment" actually entails. It's formal document charging a public official with misconduct in office. Even after their tenure.
He would be charged for crimes he was in office, and being that he is still called President, he not only loses that title, depending on the outcome of Impeachment, but all that the position entails in retirement.
Impeachment does not necessarily mean removal, it's merely a charge reserved for public office but not limited too.
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Quote from: |Glitch| on May 23, 2018, 01:18:16 AM
This is definitely one of the dumbest articles I have read in a very long time.  Since the OP does not know the meaning of the word "impeachment" I should explain that it is a process for removing someone from political office.  If they are no longer in a political office, then they cannot be impeached.  This is an obvious case of civic illiteracy.

Former Presidents are no different from anyone else.  If they commit a crime they can be charged and prosecuted.  If Obama committed a criminal act while President he can be charged and prosecuted now that he is no longer President.  A sitting President enjoys a certain immunity from the law.  However, a former President has no such immunity and does not need to be impeached since they no longer hold any political office.

It should also be noted that a President who uses the FBI, IRS, or any other part of the federal government against a candidate has committed an impeachable offense, but not a criminal act.  Which means that Obama cannot be charged for any crime, assuming he did order the FBI to spy on Trump.

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AndyJackson

Quote from: |Glitch| on May 23, 2018, 01:18:16 AM
This is definitely one of the dumbest articles I have read in a very long time.  Since the OP does not know the meaning of the word "impeachment" I should explain that it is a process for removing someone from political office.  If they are no longer in a political office, then they cannot be impeached.  This is an obvious case of civic illiteracy.

Former Presidents are no different from anyone else.  If they commit a crime they can be charged and prosecuted.  If Obama committed a criminal act while President he can be charged and prosecuted now that he is no longer President.  A sitting President enjoys a certain immunity from the law.  However, a former President has no such immunity and does not need to be impeached since they no longer hold any political office.

It should also be noted that a President who uses the FBI, IRS, or any other part of the federal government against a candidate has committed an impeachable offense, but not a criminal act.  Which means that Obama cannot be charged for any crime, assuming he did order the FBI to spy on Trump.
Arrogant ignorant is not impressive when done too loudly.

Your bottom line is that Obama is impervious / in the clear for anything he did  ?  Pretty big statement for zero legwork and proof.

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Quote from: AndyJackson on May 23, 2018, 07:38:25 AM
Arrogant ignorant is not impressive when done too loudly.

Your bottom line is that Obama is impervious / in the clear for anything he did  ?  Pretty big statement for zero legwork and proof.

What part of "If Obama committed a criminal act while President he can be charged and prosecuted now that he is no longer President" didn't you comprehend?  Can you name a criminal act he committed, or is all you have pure fantasy?