Judge Denies Hobby Lobby's First Amendment Rights

Started by Yawn, November 19, 2012, 05:20:49 PM

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Just_the_facts_mamm

Quote from: kramarat on November 22, 2012, 03:28:33 AM
You seem to be assuming that there aren't libs in the GOP.
DUH! 
THAT WOULD BE CORRECT.  A lib and a GOP have NOTHING in common.
So I can assume you don't know any LIBERALS.

care to name some Libs who are GOP?

Some Lib leaning people can be LIBERTARIAN, but they have a conservative streak that Full LIBERALS will not tolerate.

NOT TO MENTION, the judge in that article IS an admitted RELIGIOUS zealot!
You know, the kind of guy who thinks women are second class people and should DO what the Male Tells them to DO!

QuoteYou don't really pay much attention to what's talked about on here, huh?

Unlike you cons, I read the thread. BUT, most of which, is SO off the wall, batshitcrazy, I don't bother to comment.

When you guys try to reinvent history, I get involved.
My job is to keep you cons based in REALITY.

Reality, IS one of YOUR problems KRAM.  You need to pay special attention.

Yawn

QuoteNOT TO MENTION, the judge in that article IS an admitted RELIGIOUS zealot

Care to back that up with a quote?  Being a FAR Left zealot yourself, I'm betting he never said "I am a Religious ZEALOT"

Just_the_facts_mamm

Quote from: Yawn on November 22, 2012, 09:52:17 AM
Care to back that up with a quote?  Being a FAR Left zealot yourself, I'm betting he never said "I am a Religious ZEALOT"

I rip all your links to shreds
AND this is your come back?

What about the part that HE is REPUBLICAN and appointed FOR LIFE by Christie!

You want me to prove he's religious?
Anyone who is religious,
is a ZEALOT, in my opinion, and show a certain lack of grey matter in general.

your lack of intellect is showing, YAWN.

valjean

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 10:50:07 AM
I rip all your links to shreds
AND this is your come back?

What about the part that HE is REPUBLICAN and appointed FOR LIFE by Christie!

You want me to prove he's religious?
Anyone who is religious,
is a ZEALOT, in my opinion, and show a certain lack of grey matter in general.

your lack of intellect is showing, YAWN.

What you seem to be saying is that because the judge who issued the ruling is religious, and a Republican appointed by Chris Christie (also a Republican), that this somehow discredits our indignation at the ruling? Do you not see how stupid this is? John Roberts was also appointed by a Republican in George W. Bush, and yet John Roberts approved of the individual mandate which is in and of itself antithetical to the constitution. In such an instance we have every right to be indignant at the ruling, we stand for the constitution not people who happen to be appointed by our party and who happen to be more conservative justices.

I seriously have to question how old you are, the maturity or lack thereof that you display on this forum is akin to a hyperactive child.  Throughout this thread I have dismantled every claim you have made; you have not responded once, and I can see why. It seems you are utterly incapable of forming some sort of organized body of knowledge about your positions that is consistent with other things you have said. You fail to examine the ultimate ends of claims you make, something I had pointed out earlier in the thread, and without much surprise you could not seem to procure an answer. I highly suggest you get off your high horse before you fall off, and inflict further harm to your pride.


walkstall

Quote from: valjean on November 22, 2012, 11:10:27 AM
What you seem to be saying is that because the judge who issued the ruling is religious, and a Republican appointed by Chris Christie (also a Republican), that this somehow discredits our indignation at the ruling? Do you not see how stupid this is? John Roberts was also appointed by a Republican in George W. Bush, and yet John Roberts approved of the individual mandate which is in and of itself antithetical to the constitution. In such an instance we have every right to be indignant at the ruling, we stand for the constitution not people who happen to be appointed by our party and who happen to be more conservative justices.

I seriously have to question how old you are, the maturity or lack thereof that you display on this forum is akin to a hyperactive child.  Throughout this thread I have dismantled every claim you have made; you have not responded once, and I can see why. It seems you are utterly incapable of forming some sort of organized body of knowledge about your positions that is consistent with other things you have said. You fail to examine the ultimate ends of claims you make, something I had pointed out earlier in the thread, and without much surprise you could not seem to procure an answer. I highly suggest you get off your high horse before you fall off, and inflict further harm to your pride.




                                               
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Just_the_facts_mamm

Quote from: valjean on November 22, 2012, 11:10:27 AM
What you seem to be saying is that because the judge who issued the ruling is religious, and a Republican appointed by Chris Christie (also a Republican), that this somehow discredits our indignation at the ruling?

Do you not see how stupid this is? John Roberts was also appointed by a Republican in George W. Bush, and yet John Roberts approved of the individual mandate which is in and of itself antithetical to the constitution. In such an instance we have every right to be indignant at the ruling, we stand for the constitution not people who happen to be appointed by our party and who happen to be more conservative justices.
Since every other WORD from the conservative mouths IS against Liberals and HOW they are ruining the country, that is how one gets the feeling that YOU cons are bias.
YOUR indignation is not so much about the ruling.
YOUR HYSTERIA is about Sharia Law and the Muslims taking over America!
This would only be conservative hysteria.
SO, I was pointing out that CONSERVATIVES are ones that are involved in these case, so you cons GET some REALITY about conservatives!
QuoteThroughout this thread I have dismantled every claim you have made; you have not responded once, and I can see why.
Actually, you have only responded to ONE of my posts (on page one).
You babbled about morality and what year it is.  made little sense and didn't warrant a response.

so your claim that you DISMANTLED everything I have posted, would have me wondering if you are delusional.

maybe you could point out some "dismantling" of my posts for me.

I don't see you addressing the SHARIA LAW IS COMING, that I dismantled for YAWN.

QuoteI highly suggest you get off your high horse before you fall off, and inflict further harm to your pride.
You like to pontificate a good deal, while not saying much of a factual nature.

Seems it's YOU on Your high horse that needs to be concerned about a fall.

Darth Fife

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 21, 2012, 10:17:00 PM
This is one is a retarded law suit!
http://www.thomasmore.org/news/sharia-law-gains-foothold-us-federal-judge-upholds-government-funding-islam

Anyone read it?

SHOCKING I SAY!  Just Shocking.

You guys don't get around much.

Sharia-compliant financing is COMMON in vast amounts of the world.

So is polygamy in one form or another. Do you support polygamy?

QuoteIt's banking without the Predator attitude.  It makes banks BE NICE.

Well, golly! Let's just replace Ben Bernanke with an Ayatollah!  :rolleyes:

QuoteBelow is what the court decided, based on the retarded lawsuit brought by some right wingers who wanted to stir up the
MUSLIMS ARE COMING! sentiments
NOT TO MENTION, AIG was bailed out by GW Bush!
So if it's an administration who is coddling Islam, its a GOP one.

I don't think you will find many defenders of "W" here!


Just_the_facts_mamm

Quote from: Darth Fife on November 22, 2012, 05:36:19 PM
So is polygamy in one form or another. Do you support polygamy?
Oh really.
How many countries have legalized polygamy?

Besides, I think "Nice Banks" and Polygamy, are not on the same level, even in conservative land

valjean

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 12:04:21 PM
Since every other WORD from the conservative mouths IS against Liberals and HOW they are ruining the country, that is how one gets the feeling that YOU cons are bias.
YOUR indignation is not so much about the ruling.
YOUR HYSTERIA is about Sharia Law and the Muslims taking over America!
This would only be conservative hysteria.

You are further convincing me of your ignorance, I did not mention Sharia law, not once. So why are you attempting to take me to task over something I never mentioned? I doubt you even looked to see who wrote which post.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 12:04:21 PMSO, I was pointing out that CONSERVATIVES are ones that are involved in these case, so you cons GET some REALITY about conservatives!Actually, you have only responded to ONE of my posts (on page one).
You babbled about morality and what year it is.  made little sense and didn't warrant a response.

Your incoherency continues in unrivaled form. So conservatives need to "get some reality" about conservatives because conservatives were involved in the case? I would laugh at this nonsensical point if it were an attempt at trolling, but it seems you are serious which makes this an occasion for pity rather than hilarity.

You should be one to talk about posts making little sense! You made this senseless argument about morality changing over the centuries as some sort of justification for the government to enforce these changing morals you believe in. I made the point that this essentially places you in a position where the morals you hold are necessarily malleable, and moreover it necessitates the government act as the morality police such as in this case where the government is compelling the employer to pay for things he finds objectionable on moral grounds.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 12:04:21 PMmaybe you could point out some "dismantling" of my posts for me.

Go look back at my previous posts in this thread that put your rhetoric to shame, you didn't address any of them. I'm not going to re-type the same posts again for your convenience.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 12:04:21 PMI don't see you addressing the SHARIA LAW IS COMING, that I dismantled for YAWN.

I have no concern about Sharia law coming to America, that was  YAWN's point, something I do not agree with, and yet you seem to have the bias to think that just because you are on a conservative forum that everyone is going to agree on everything? I have no concern over Sharia law being instituted in this country, it will never happen.

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 12:04:21 PMSeems it's YOU on Your high horse that needs to be concerned about a fall.

Brilliant comeback, on par with what we can expect from children in grammar school.

Darth Fife

Quote from: Just_the_facts_mamm on November 22, 2012, 07:59:53 PM
Oh really.
How many countries have legalized polygamy?

Nearly all of Africa, and, of course, the Islamic countries of the Middle East, Malyasia, Nyanmar (Burma). Also while Great Britain and Australia don't have laws permitting polygamy, they will recognize polygamist marriages preformed elsewhere.

QuoteBesides, I think "Nice Banks" and Polygamy, are not on the same level, even in conservative land

I simply argued  my support for polygamy the same way you rationalized your support for Sharia compliant financing - it is common in vast amounts of the world.

If you are going to be stupid enough to use the Everybody else is doing it!" argument to justify you position, don't act surprised when you get the "If everybody else were jumping off a bridge would you do that too?" response.