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Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« on: May 10, 2018, 10:46:32 PM »

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Russians showed up in court to fight Mueller's indictment. Mueller says he's not ready.
Judge tells Mueller, "too bad".

Mueller threw out some outrageous challenge knowing that nobody would meet his challenge because they’re in Russia and they don’t have to.
They called his bluff by loading up a plane full of lawyers and showing up! :ttoung: :lol:


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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2018, 11:37:01 PM »
Holy Borscht!

I was one of those that said the indicted Russians would never end up in court. Apparently so was Mueller. This whole thing is a joke.

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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #2 on: May 11, 2018, 05:34:23 AM »
Good old Joey D.....used to handle some of our most important cases back in the day. Was a decent guy.

The Judge should have DWIP'd the case when Mueller's crew weren't ready to present their case before the court.

DWIP (Dismissed for want of Prosecution)
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #3 on: May 11, 2018, 05:49:04 AM »
"You're under arrest!..... For what?...... When I figure that out, you'll be in trouble."

OMG, the judge just called Muller bluff on his false indictments, now he has to put up, problem is, the entire investigation was built on lies and now he has to prove otherwise. That's right, now Mueller is the one under the microscope.

I see possible prison time for Mueller, I definitely see this coming to an end finally, especially if he tries to bring charges to these Russians that called his bluff.
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #4 on: May 11, 2018, 06:03:21 AM »
Good old Joey D.....used to handle some of our most important cases back in the day. Was a decent guy.

The Judge should have DWIP'd the case when Mueller's crew weren't ready to present their case before the court.

DWIP (Dismissed for want of Prosecution)

Here are the leaked minutes between that Judge and Mueller's crew. Read them, you will get a good laugh.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/06/leaked-court-transcripts-reveal-showdown-between-judge-and-mueller-lawyer-its-a-total-beatdown
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #5 on: May 11, 2018, 08:08:59 AM »
Here are the leaked minutes between that Judge and Mueller's crew. Read them, you will get a good laugh.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/06/leaked-court-transcripts-reveal-showdown-between-judge-and-mueller-lawyer-its-a-total-beatdown
That was awesome!
Thanks for posting. :thumbup:

I read the entire transcript and discovered an interesting aspect of the left's case.
Their claim is that Manafort took money from Russians, but the money actually came from Ukrainians and as Defence points out, that Russia and Ukraine are fighting, so in truth, there is no Russian Trump connection going forward.
But that aside, and so many other points I'd love to quote, I'll cut to the chase.


"There's no mention in the indictment that I know of that refers to any Russian individual or any Russian bank or any Russian money or any payments by Russians to Mr. Manafort. Correct?MR. DREEBEN: I think that is correct, but the money that forms the basis for the criminal charges here, the tax charges, the bank fraud charges comes from his Ukraine activities.

That's what we were focused on. So we followed the money into the transactions that led to the criminal charges here, and it's that factual link that connects the subject of the investigation in --THE COURT: You can't be talking about bank fraud because that's not where money came from. That'sgetting money from a bank without telling the truth,but it could be in the false income tax.

Is that what you're suggesting?MR. DREEBEN: It's both, Your Honor, because the Ukraine money was used to purchase and improve real estate.
The transactions that are charged as bank fraud extracted that money and made it --THE COURT: Purchases of his homes.
MR. DREEBEN: With money that he derived from the Ukraine activities we've alleged. That's the factual connection, Your Honor. I'm just trying to explain why we regard this as connected to our investigation."
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2018, 09:20:32 AM »
Last I heard Mueller actually tried to get a continuance based on "ummmm we think we did it wrong when we accused / served these guys...our bad, we need a long time to get it right"

The accused said "uh, no you didn't, it's all good, we're happy, let's get it on".

I never realized how shameless and immune to embarrassment these people are.  I've always thought there was a limit to how stupidly people will act and speak, right out in public.  But these days, there just isn't.

It supports my belief of the lib mental illness / infantilization.  They are simply willing to act like little children, in front of everybody.  When did this happen ?  They used to try and hide some of their worst behaviors at least.

Now it's like they would actually shit their pants on camera, if it helped them pull off some kind of nonsense.  This is an entire political party of older adults, mind you.

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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2018, 09:17:09 PM »
Here are the leaked minutes between that Judge and Mueller's crew. Read them, you will get a good laugh.

https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/05/06/leaked-court-transcripts-reveal-showdown-between-judge-and-mueller-lawyer-its-a-total-beatdown


There is something VERY strange about that whole exchange, very Unusual. If Manafort was INDICTED BY THE GRAND JURY on those charges then there should be a TRUE BILL and a Charging document....which outlines the offenses and the PROBABE CAUSE that Manafort committed such offenses. These documents are ADOPTED by the prosecutor and read into the official transcript at any hearing.

If Manafort was charged on a WARRANT then that warrant has to outline the probable cause he committed such offense and the affidavit can be adopted by the prosecutor when the suspect is arraigned on charges and once again read into the record.

Long story short, there shoud be either a GJ charging document or an affidavit to the arrest warrant ON FILE  for the Judge to look over from the bench or examinein his chambers BEFORE any hearing or proceeding.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE JUDGE DOES NOT HAVE EITHER OF THESE DOCUMENTS and it sounds like he is asking for them within two weeks.....VERY STRANGE!
 
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2018, 06:31:34 AM »

There is something VERY strange about that whole exchange, very Unusual. If Manafort was INDICTED BY THE GRAND JURY on those charges then there should be a TRUE BILL and a Charging document....which outlines the offenses and the PROBABE CAUSE that Manafort committed such offenses. These documents are ADOPTED by the prosecutor and read into the official transcript at any hearing.

If Manafort was charged on a WARRANT then that warrant has to outline the probable cause he committed such offense and the affidavit can be adopted by the prosecutor when the suspect is arraigned on charges and once again read into the record.

Long story short, there shoud be either a GJ charging document or an affidavit to the arrest warrant ON FILE  for the Judge to look over from the bench or examinein his chambers BEFORE any hearing or proceeding.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THE JUDGE DOES NOT HAVE EITHER OF THESE DOCUMENTS and it sounds like he is asking for them within two weeks.....VERY STRANGE!
Bottomline? They have no case and I have a feeling the judge is about to expose this fraud.
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2018, 09:09:41 AM »
Bottomline? They have no case and I have a feeling the judge is about to expose this fraud.

They are hiding something. When they turn these documents over, THEY HAVE TO NAME NAMES. IE WHICH AGENT was actually doing the physical surveillance, which agent SWORE AS THE AFFIANT FOR THE PROBABLE CAUSE ON THE FISA WARRANT. WHO SWORE THAT THESE "FACTS" were True Before WHICH JUDGE?  Then THAT AGENT (S) is subject to CROSS EXAMINATION by the DEFENSE.

I'm hearing that there was a possible UNDERCOVER AGENT who infiltrated the Trump campaign or a "Confidential Informant" ....talk about a can of worms....

Spying on a Political campaign without there being the existience of possible criminal activity?  What a bombshell that is.
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #10 on: May 13, 2018, 09:41:23 AM »
They are hiding something. When they turn these documents over, THEY HAVE TO NAME NAMES. IE WHICH AGENT was actually doing the physical surveillance, which agent SWORE AS THE AFFIANT FOR THE PROBABLE CAUSE ON THE FISA WARRANT. WHO SWORE THAT THESE "FACTS" were True Before WHICH JUDGE?  Then THAT AGENT (S) is subject to CROSS EXAMINATION by the DEFENSE.

I'm hearing that there was a possible UNDERCOVER AGENT who infiltrated the Trump campaign or a "Confidential Informant" ....talk about a can of worms....

Spying on a Political campaign without there being the existience of possible criminal activity?  What a bombshell that is.
Yep, the left totally screwed this up, all because they never expected to wind up in court. (they actually thought Hitlary was a shoe-in) It was Popadopolus that is thought to be an FBI plant.
I agree. I see people doing prison time over this, they did, after all, purger themselves.
Now it all makes sense why Trump has yet to fire any of these idiots, it has become very clear they would never find any wrongdoing, unless they fabricated evidence, and the judge appears to be on the verge of exposing these scum.
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Re: Joe DiGenova – Russians Actually Showed Up
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2018, 10:26:14 AM »
Last I heard Mueller actually tried to get a continuance based on "ummmm we think we did it wrong when we accused / served these guys...our bad, we need a long time to get it right"

The accused said "uh, no you didn't, it's all good, we're happy, let's get it on".

I never realized how shameless and immune to embarrassment these people are.  I've always thought there was a limit to how stupidly people will act and speak, right out in public.  But these days, there just isn't.

It supports my belief of the lib mental illness / infantilization.  They are simply willing to act like little children, in front of everybody.  When did this happen ?  They used to try and hide some of their worst behaviors at least.

Now it's like they would actually shit their pants on camera, if it helped them pull off some kind of nonsense.  This is an entire political party of older adults, mind you.

During obamas presidency. Before that the libs realized they had to be sneaky and hide their tru intentions. Once he was 8n the libs felt they cld throw off thier shackles and live in the light, with no fear of shame or judgment. They didnt realize that america still finds them evil...

 

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