Quote from: red_dirt on October 18, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
Here's one way to go about underestimating Uncle Joe. He is part and parcel of
the Democratic machine that made stuff like the following happen:

Upon desegregation in 1957 in Baltimore, Maryland, the Clifton Park Junior High School had 2,023 white students and 34 black students; ten years later, it had twelve white students and 2,037 black students. In northwest Baltimore, Garrison Junior High School's student body declined from 2,504 whites and twelve blacks to 297 whites and 1,263 blacks in that period.[34] At the same time, the city's working class population declined because of the loss of industrial jobs as heavy industry restructured.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight

Just a good Irish Catholic boy, right, looking out for the interests of the downtrodden.

lol, that's funny.

I tend to think of red dirt as a Biden-Obama-socialism monkey....but I do see that he/she is mocking Biden here.

What's the point ?  That full-on minority racism and demographics is A-OK  ??

Sometimes this shit is just too convoluted.  Somebody reply honestly & intelligently, if at all possible.

Oh, and dig at Cotholicism duly duly noted.  Go ahead and tell us who else was poised to even try to help.....seems like everybody loves Pope Francis & his anti-capitalism message.   Go figger...are you 15 yeaers old or older  ?

    To understand the point of view, we have to go back to the origins of the  Democratic Political Machines of New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and yes, Baltimore. Most people have heard of the Democratic organizations of Tammany Hall in New York, The Boston Irish Machine, and the Cook County political machine of Chicago. These either are or were massive patronage organizations that relied initially  on immigrants to the East Coast of the USA. Joe Biden and Barack Obama come directly from those organizations. Those machines control the Democratic Party.
      School integration was never about greater opportunity for black youth. School integration was about disrupting the white Protestant social structure in America's population and wealth centers. Have you ever noticed how the Democratic Party leaders continually pump black America with the lie that they are hated by white America?  Have you noticed what has happened to the urban areas run by the Democratic machines?
    Racial integration has taken the expected  toll on the public school system. Some respectable analysts have suggested America dissolve the current system and start over.
    If we take it back to the days of Eisenhower, JFK, Johnson, and Michael King, the public school system was transformed in 16 years. The new rules were put into effect by the federal and state governments, who then left it up to the communities to sort it out, to make it work. About the only thing that the law makers did from that point on was to continually stir the pot of discontent, sentencing American public schools to an eternity of mistrust, chaos, danger, and divide.
    It was and remains a diabolical scheme.
    Naturally, people do not want to hear this. They will come up with all sorts of accusations and labels. Obviously, there are many grey areas in all of this. There are people of good will on all sides. When I present this position, I don't mince words or go behind the backs of black men and women with whispers and back biting. Of course I could be wrong, but I am not the only person taking this position.  Look at the Mayor of New York. Look at the president of the USA. Then tell me the pieces are not falling into place.

Quote from: red_dirt on October 18, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
    To understand the point of view, we have to go back to the origins of the  Democratic Political Machines of New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and yes, Baltimore. Most people have heard of the Democratic organizations of Tammany Hall in New York, The Boston Irish Machine, and the Cook County political machine of Chicago. These either are or were massive patronage organizations that relied initially  on immigrants to the East Coast of the USA. Joe Biden and Barack Obama come directly from those organizations. Those machines control the Democratic Party.
      School integration was never about greater opportunity for black youth. School integration was about disrupting the white Protestant social structure in America's population and wealth centers. Have you ever noticed how the Democratic Party leaders continually pump black America with the lie that they are hated by white America?  Have you noticed what has happened to the urban areas run by the Democratic machines?
    Racial integration has taken the expected  toll on the public school system. Some respectable analysts have suggested America dissolve the current system and start over.
    If we take it back to the days of Eisenhower, JFK, Johnson, and Michael King, the public school system was transformed in 16 years. The new rules were put into effect by the federal and state governments, who then left it up to the communities to sort it out, to make it work. About the only thing that the law makers did from that point on was to continually stir the pot of discontent, sentencing American public schools to an eternity of mistrust, chaos, danger, and divide.
    It was and remains a diabolical scheme.
    Naturally, people do not want to hear this. They will come up with all sorts of accusations and labels. Obviously, there are many grey areas in all of this. There are people of good will on all sides. When I present this position, I don't mince words or go behind the backs of black men and women with whispers and back biting. Of course I could be wrong, but I am not the only person taking this position.  Look at the Mayor of New York. Look at the president of the USA. Then tell me the pieces are not falling into place.

On this we can agree.  It just sounded like you were saying that Biden's scams were somehow OK.  Maybe I was wrong.

Quote from: red_dirt on October 18, 2014, 08:20:16 PM
    To understand the point of view, we have to go back to the origins of the  Democratic Political Machines of New York, Chicago, Boston, Philadelphia, and yes, Baltimore. Most people have heard of the Democratic organizations of Tammany Hall in New York, The Boston Irish Machine, and the Cook County political machine of Chicago. These either are or were massive patronage organizations that relied initially  on immigrants to the East Coast of the USA. Joe Biden and Barack Obama come directly from those organizations. Those machines control the Democratic Party.
      School integration was never about greater opportunity for black youth. School integration was about disrupting the white Protestant social structure in America's population and wealth centers. Have you ever noticed how the Democratic Party leaders continually pump black America with the lie that they are hated by white America?  Have you noticed what has happened to the urban areas run by the Democratic machines?
    Racial integration has taken the expected  toll on the public school system. Some respectable analysts have suggested America dissolve the current system and start over.
    If we take it back to the days of Eisenhower, JFK, Johnson, and Michael King, the public school system was transformed in 16 years. The new rules were put into effect by the federal and state governments, who then left it up to the communities to sort it out, to make it work. About the only thing that the law makers did from that point on was to continually stir the pot of discontent, sentencing American public schools to an eternity of mistrust, chaos, danger, and divide.
    It was and remains a diabolical scheme.
    Naturally, people do not want to hear this. They will come up with all sorts of accusations and labels. Obviously, there are many grey areas in all of this. There are people of good will on all sides. When I present this position, I don't mince words or go behind the backs of black men and women with whispers and back biting. Of course I could be wrong, but I am not the only person taking this position.  Look at the Mayor of New York. Look at the president of the USA. Then tell me the pieces are not falling into place.

I asked you what Joe Biden had to do with the desegregation of a school in Baltimore in 1957, when Joe was 15 years old. Could I trouble you to simply answer my question? Sheesh.

       Baltimore, Maryland, and Washington D.C. are home to a corruption of the democratic process known as the Tidewater Democratic Machine.  That term is outdated and is gradually being replaced by the designation, National Political Machine. When you look on the red and blue map, the blue areas are not a coincidence. What you are really seeing in that red and blue maps are the areas commanded by Democratic patronage machines, blue, and the rest of us, red.  In is further not a coincidence that those organizations resemble criminal organizations.
       The links between forced school desegregation in the south, which has never worked, and the power of the Machine are being laid on the table today as they never were in the past. The easy response is to dismiss the facts as racist rants, just as the smiling corrupt politicians would have you do.  Also, when we look at school desegregation from the point of view it of its intentions, it has not been a total failure. There are many bright spots. Nevertheless, it has been a boon to a manipulative political class.
        As the post says, "He is part and parcel of the Democratic machine that made stuff like the following happen."

Quote from: red_dirt on October 18, 2014, 05:30:56 PM
Here's one way to go about underestimating Uncle Joe. He is part and parcel of
the Democratic machine that made stuff like the following happen:

Upon desegregation in 1957 in Baltimore, Maryland, the Clifton Park Junior High School had 2,023 white students and 34 black students; ten years later, it had twelve white students and 2,037 black students. In northwest Baltimore, Garrison Junior High School's student body declined from 2,504 whites and twelve blacks to 297 whites and 1,263 blacks in that period.[34] At the same time, the city's working class population declined because of the loss of industrial jobs as heavy industry restructured.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_flight
Just a good Irish Catholic boy, right, looking out for the interests of the downtrodden.

        I don't know where you are coming from with this "He was only 15," stuff. He is a product of the Machine, a high ranking Knight of Malta, a wolf in sheep's clothing, not to be underestimated. If you need current examples, recent tricks include seating a communist in the Office of the Mayor of New York and a Muslim in the White House. Don't sell them short.

       Nothing would make me happier than to see Americans become informed, I mean really informed, about how we are being railroaded by un American interests.
http://www.irishcentral.com/opinion/others/america-is-under-the-tyranny-of-corrupt-big-city-political-machines-199083911-238174741.html

Quote from: red_dirt on October 19, 2014, 05:50:32 AM
       Baltimore, Maryland, and Washington D.C. are home to a corruption of the democratic process known as the Tidewater Democratic Machine.  That term is outdated and is gradually being replaced by the designation, National Political Machine. When you look on the red and blue map, the blue areas are not a coincidence. What you are really seeing in that red and blue maps are the areas commanded by Democratic patronage machines, blue, and the rest of us, red.  In is further not a coincidence that those organizations resemble criminal organizations.
       The links between forced school desegregation in the south, which has never worked, and the power of the Machine are being laid on the table today as they never were in the past. The easy response is to dismiss the facts as racist rants, just as the smiling corrupt politicians would have you do.  Also, when we look at school desegregation from the point of view it of its intentions, it has not been a total failure. There are many bright spots. Nevertheless, it has been a boon to a manipulative political class.
        As the post says, "He is part and parcel of the Democratic machine that made stuff like the following happen."

        I don't know where you are coming from with this "He was only 15," stuff. He is a product of the Machine, a high ranking Knight of Malta, a wolf in sheep's clothing, not to be underestimated. If you need current examples, recent tricks include seating a communist in the Office of the Mayor of New York and a Muslim in the White House. Don't sell them short.

Hey, I'm sorry, man. I screwed up. I apologize!

I said Joe Biden was fifteen when the Baltimore schools were desegregated, and that's not right. He was fourteen. It's like, his birthday is in late November and... well, it's an arithmetic thing, see. Kinda tricky.

You're just not gonna answer my question, are you? I asked you specifically and directly what Joe Biden, a high school kid in Delaware at the time, had to do with the desegregation of a Baltimore school in 1957 -- an example of his treachery that you provided, all on your own -- and all you can say is he's a "product of the Machine?" Do you blame him for Boss Tweed in New York and the Daley machine in Chicago too? Is he responsible for shooting Abe Lincoln?

    As the post says, "He is part and parcel of the Democratic machine that made stuff like the following happen."
    I didn't say he was around in the 1950's. But the Democratic machine sure was.
    In the same way,  I might say, "Don't trust a communist. Look what Stalin did."
    I might oppose Nazis on the grounds of the actions of the Third Reich.
   
    If I said Anjem Choudary has no business being in London, preaching Jihad. Would you say, "Wait a minute, Anjem Choudary hadn't even been born in 700 AD."?

     I don't get the question at all. I have no use for Joe Biden and accept no excuse for the corrupt Democratic political machines of America, Baltimore or otherwise.

Quote from: red_dirt on October 19, 2014, 06:52:00 AM
    As the post says, "He is part and parcel of the Democratic machine that made stuff like the following happen."
    I didn't say he was around in the 1950's. But the Democratic machine sure was.
    In the same way,  I might say, "Don't trust a communist. Look what Stalin did."
    I might oppose Nazis on the grounds of the actions of the Third Reich.
   
    If I said Anjem Choudary has no business being in London, preaching Jihad. Would you say, "Wait a minute, Anjem Choudary hadn't even been born in 700 AD."?

     I don't get the question at all. I have no use for Joe Biden and accept no excuse for the corrupt Democratic political machines of America, Baltimore or otherwise.

Your argument, such as it is, has merit in the sense that there is a modern Democrat "machine," though it's obviously nothing like the Democrat "machines" that existed at various times in our history.

I didn't connect Joe Biden to desegregation in Baltimore in 1957. You did that. Don't take my word for it -- scroll up and read your own posts. You are responsible for that. I think you "get the question" just fine, but you don't care for it.

Here is a good link concerning what this author calls the National Machine.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/the_20th_century_rise_of_the_democratic_national_machine.html

Sorry, still don't see the quote. Point it out, would you mind?

Kate Smith debuts the song, "God Bless America." Great original pictures.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/TnQDW-NMaRs?rel=0

Quote from: red_dirt on October 19, 2014, 07:34:18 AM
Here is a good link concerning what this author calls the National Machine.
http://www.americanthinker.com/2014/07/the_20th_century_rise_of_the_democratic_national_machine.html

Sorry, still don't see the quote. Point it out, would you mind?

Kate Smith debuts the song, "God Bless America." Great original pictures.
https://www.youtube.com/embed/TnQDW-NMaRs?rel=0

What, you don't know how to go back and read your own posts? I've only pointed it out three or four times. One of us just doesn't get it.

I have other things to do.

     No, Biden wasn't around for the Kennedy/Johnson administration, but he's no slacker when it comes to faking out the black people. He's a typical phoney Irish Democrat, machine politician.
     Here he is telling an assembly of black clergy that the Tea Party is crazy:
http://www.topix.net/forum/city/wilmington-de/TUK7K974011J7G6MC
     Only white boy in East Wilmington. Yeah, right, he was a real ghetto warrior, regular survivor. here's a link to the school he attended after his family moved from Scranton to Wilmington, Archmere Academy.
http://www.archmereacademy.com/
       Looks like a real tough place. Typical lying Democrat. A lawyer. A politician. The friend of the black man, while the black population continues to suffer.   All the Republican fault, though, mind you, according to Joe.  He is a high ranking Knight of Malta, Jesuit, not to be underestimated.

Here's the paste from the Topix link:


Vice President Joe Biden described himself as "the only white boy on the east side of Wilmington" and called the tea party "crazy" in a private meeting with black clergy members, according to a report. A source tells CNN that at a closed-door meeting in South Carolina with 100 black clergy members on Tuesday, he directed harsh criticism toward the Republican Party.

Biden attended the Archmere Academy in Claymont,[14] where he was a standout halfback/wide receiver on the high school football team; he helped lead a perennially losing team to an undefeated season in his senior year

Quote from: keyboarder on October 17, 2014, 07:56:58 AM
You really think any of that prior stuff matters to these slugs?  Heck, he'll wind up with a title or being made a czar of something, count on it.

As Rush would say, "it's a resume enhancer" for Democrats with bad behavior.

DaisyJane     

Quote from: DaisyJane on October 19, 2014, 12:36:28 PM
As Rush would say, "it's a resume enhancer" for Democrats with bad behavior.

DaisyJane     

        Dad was on the committee that created the drug czar, so there is a chance/
Dad also wrote the Assault Weapons Ban. Joe recommends shotguns.  BBs can harmlessly float to their feet as they pound us at 200 yards with their Kalishnikovs.

Just more honor added to the Biden name...

Quote from: taxed on October 19, 2014, 01:40:37 PM
Just more honor added to the Biden name...

And the libs are all a TWITter over the possibility that he, Hitlery and Fauxcauntus might run for office....NOT!

There is not one Dim running, that generates one iota of mediocre excitement, and we're supposed to believe they'll take 2016?