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Japan's Right To SElf Defence
« on: October 23, 2017, 05:54:19 AM »
Which side of the Left-Right paradigm does politics enter the equation as far as Americans are concerned?


Article 9 reads as follows:

1.  Aspiring sincerely to an international peace based on justice and order, the Japanese people forever renounce war as a sovereign right of the nation and the threat or use of force as a means of settling international disputes.

2.  In order to accomplish the aim of the preceding paragraph, land, sea and air forces, as well as other war potential, will never be maintained. The right of belligerency of the state will not be recognized.

Paragraph 1 of article 9 renounces war, while paragraph 2 prohibits maintaining the potential for war.  Interpretations of this article have varied broadly, from absolute pacifism to the admission of a collective right of self-defense.

Here's why I ask.

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TOKYO, Oct 22 (Reuters) - Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe's ruling bloc was headed for a big win in Sunday's election, bolstering his chance of becoming the nation's longest-serving premier and re-energising his push to revise the pacifist constitution.

Abe's Liberal Democratic Party-led (LDP) coalition has won a combined 310 seats, reaching a two-thirds "super majority" in the 465-member lower house, with 11 seats still up for grabs, broadcaster TV Asahi said.

A hefty win raises the likelihood that Abe, who took office in December 2012, will have a third three-year term as LDP leader next September and go on to become Japan's longest-serving premier. It also means his "Abenomics" growth strategy centred on the hyper-easy monetary policy will likely continue.

Final official results from the election, which coincided with an approaching typhoon, are expected early on Monday.

The U.S.-drafted constitution's Article 9, if taken literally, bans the maintenance of armed forces. But Japanese governments have interpreted it to allow a military exclusively for self-defence.
http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/10/22/abe-to-push-reform-japans-pacifist-constitution-after-election-win.html

Are the leftists in Japan the hawkish party, and the more conservative party that wanted a pacifist approach towards the future?
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Re: Japan's Right To SElf Defence
« Reply #1 on: October 23, 2017, 07:51:40 AM »
You sure found an International Hornet's Nest to stir up!!!

Everytime I've read that, I think of the post WW1 Germany's restrictions, League of Nations, etc.,  It DOES NOT work, never has, never will.

In just another generation, Japan will either be defending themselves, by themselves, or enslaved.
Can you *imagine* North Korea blackmailing Japan into surrendering their sovereignty & becoming a part of the NK Communist state?   I sure can!

That old generation is dead.   Their warlike culture, just history.  Japan is fully "westernized" and nearly completely defenseless.   We need them as much as they need us.

If we ARM Japan, has the risk of the Island nation, capsizing, been taken into consideration?
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Re: Japan's Right To SElf Defence
« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2017, 08:15:15 AM »
You sure found an International Hornet's Nest to stir up!!!

Everytime I've read that, I think of the post WW1 Germany's restrictions, League of Nations, etc.,  It DOES NOT work, never has, never will.

In just another generation, Japan will either be defending themselves, by themselves, or enslaved.
Can you *imagine* North Korea blackmailing Japan into surrendering their sovereignty & becoming a part of the NK Communist state?   I sure can!

That old generation is dead.   Their warlike culture, just history.  Japan is fully "westernized" and nearly completely defenseless.   We need them as much as they need us.

If we ARM Japan, has the risk of the Island nation, capsizing, been taken into consideration?
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The reason for posting it was the claim that his party is the "Abe's Liberal Democratic Party-led (LDP)" claim.
What is the opposition party, Marxist?
That's the problem with these political designations in other countries, because an American would see them in comparison to the US Dim party, of which they are not.
But to understand their designation, one has to look at the platform of the other party because every nation has its own social problems unique to that particular State.
It appears the LDP has more incommon with the Right in tyhe US, and the Conservative party of Japan is more aligned with the Dims? Or a mismash of both... :unsure:
Here's a quick synopsis.

“Conservatives” may have cruised to victory in the recent elections, but as I discovered during a visit to Japan this month as a guest of the nonprofit Foreign Press Center, conservatism here has little in common with its American counterpart. Japanese conservatives tend to “like stronger government,” argues political scientist Masaru Kohno, a professor at Tokyo’s Waseda University. The conviction that there should be “less government intervention in economic affairs — Milton Friedman, not Maynard Keynes — that dimension does not exist here.” Even when politicians in Japan call for deregulation, he observes, it doesn’t come from a philosophical belief that smaller government is better.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2013/01/30/japan-conservatives-look-nothing-like-america/E9ZD5DkzUD7sUbwahZr8NM/story.html

The Party of Hope labels itself a reformist conservative party that supports a strong national defense and the close military alliance with the Untied States, but does not align with Abe’s controversial efforts to change Article 9 of the constitution that prohibits Japan from going to war to settle international disputes.

“It is almost an abnormal obsession by Mr. Abe. And I don’t think Ms. Koike shares that feeling. I don’t think that she would actually squander valuable political capital trying to change the constitution when really all you need to do is reinterpret it,” Newsham said.

The Japanese public has been sharply divided over this issue with supporters of the pacifist constitution arguing it could entangle Japan in international conflicts, most likely in support of its U.S. military ally. U.S. President Donald Trump’s recent threat to destroy North Korea if attacked and the escalating war of words between the leaders of the U.S. and North Korea, have heightened these concerns for many.

Many Abe supporters view the post World War II constitution as a humiliation imposed by the United States after Japan’s defeat in 1945. Constitutional reform advocates argue the Japanese military needs more latitude to counter increasing threats from North Korea and China. The U.S. also supports Japan taking a more prominent role in maintaining regional security.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/Liberal-Democratic-Party-of-Japan
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