ISRAEL: Stop Being a Cocktease

Started by Aristophanes, August 23, 2014, 11:00:23 PM

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Aristophanes

For more than 40 years now Israel has occupied both West Bank and Gaza Strip without so much as a "thanks for all the fish." What I mean to say is that they have allowed a people to live in some sort of weird limbo that, for the latter half of that time frame, has been as violent as all hell. A lesser man might say that the Israelis would be doing more good to simply kill off all inhabitants and be done with it, however that would of course be an unmistakable atrocity, regardless of the current tally of loss of life, killing an entire people is simply unforgivable.

So Israel, I give you a challenge, an ultimatum if you will. Pick from among the following, of what you are going to do.

Option 1. Accept all inhabitants as Residents under the state of Israel, with full rights to public facilities but with zero voting privileges. Make it illegal for Muslims to own weaponry of any kind, including fine silverware, and offer plastic sporks at every marketplace. Basically murder anyone who disagrees, but with bullets and public hangings, not rockets. Oh, also chop the hands off of any muslim caught with a weapon. That works too.

Option 2. Declare an ultimatum to all occupied muslims to either convert to a non muslim religion or to leave. If none convert, then simply do a full military take over to cancel their rocket-firing capabilities, and continually crop dust their lands with things like tear gas, pepper spray, and agent orange, until they leave.

Option 3. Ask West Bank and Gaza Strip to join Israel with full voting privilege. Don't freak out if a Muslim is elected as a political leader.

Option 4. Become the 51st state of the United States of (the world?) and help us become an expansionist power in (and only in) the middle east (in between turkey, iran, egypt and Saudi Arabia).

Option 5. GTFO of Caanan

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Quote from: Aristophanes on August 23, 2014, 11:00:23 PM
So Israel, I give you a challenge, an ultimatum if you will. Pick from among the following, of what you are going to do.

Hey, don't forget you posted this on the weekend. You might not hear back from Israel till Monday.

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Ahhhh...the liberal democrap telling every one else how to live their lives.

I have some options for your kind the liberal democrap.

Option one...Move out of your parents basement. Even if your parents are two daddies or two mommies that is no excuse. Grow TFU and move out.

Option two...Get a job and stop living off the the backs of others.

Option three...GFTO of CPF

By the way is that you Amanda Curtis...?

People sleep peacefully at night because there are a few tough men prepared to do violence on their behalf.

A foolish man complains about his torn pockets.

A wise man uses it to scratch his balls.

Solar

Quote from: Aristophanes on August 23, 2014, 11:00:23 PM
For more than 40 years now Israel has occupied both West Bank and Gaza Strip without so much as a "thanks for all the fish." What I mean to say is that they have allowed a people to live in some sort of weird limbo that, for the latter half of that time frame, has been as violent as all hell. A lesser man might say that the Israelis would be doing more good to simply kill off all inhabitants and be done with it, however that would of course be an unmistakable atrocity, regardless of the current tally of loss of life, killing an entire people is simply unforgivable.

So Israel, I give you a challenge, an ultimatum if you will. Pick from among the following, of what you are going to do.

Option 1. Accept all inhabitants as Residents under the state of Israel, with full rights to public facilities but with zero voting privileges. Make it illegal for Muslims to own weaponry of any kind, including fine silverware, and offer plastic sporks at every marketplace. Basically murder anyone who disagrees, but with bullets and public hangings, not rockets. Oh, also chop the hands off of any muslim caught with a weapon. That works too.

Option 2. Declare an ultimatum to all occupied muslims to either convert to a non muslim religion or to leave. If none convert, then simply do a full military take over to cancel their rocket-firing capabilities, and continually crop dust their lands with things like tear gas, pepper spray, and agent orange, until they leave.

Option 3. Ask West Bank and Gaza Strip to join Israel with full voting privilege. Don't freak out if a Muslim is elected as a political leader.

Option 4. Become the 51st state of the United States of (the world?) and help us become an expansionist power in (and only in) the middle east (in between turkey, iran, egypt and Saudi Arabia).

Option 5. GTFO of Caanan
Let me guess. Too much Red Bull and couldn't sleep?
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Is the only thing you care about re-gaining control over the republican party and defeating all opposing views? Also, do you consider every opposition party to be Marxist, or just the current African American president.

Solar

Quote from: Aristophanes on August 24, 2014, 10:06:28 AM
Is the only thing you care about re-gaining control over the republican party and defeating all opposing views? Also, do you consider every opposition party to be Marxist, or just the current African American president.
First off, we've never had control of the GOP, it's never been a Conservative party, ever!
As to the Dim party, it didn't turn hard left till Newt beat the crap out of the Dims under Clinton's reign whena large number abandoned the party to join the GOP, further watering down the GOP and leaving the Dim party full of the hardcore leftists.

That's when the party turned, but it wasn't until they picked the Marxist that they exposed themselves, Hell, even the CPUSA endorsed Barry..
You do know who the CPUSA is, right?

I'm going to guess you only became aware of politics in the last decade, but you'd never admit it.
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Quote from: Solar on August 24, 2014, 12:02:40 PM
I'm going to guess you only became aware of politics in the last decade, but you'd never admit it.

This is correct. I first got interested in politics sometime after 9/11.

The very first thing I did was to research on the Roman Republic and the Roman Empire, then I entertained the notion of the Navy Seals, and then the USAF. Afterwards I focused primarily on World War II, although I also dabbled in Russian history and Chinese history. Later on I focused on World War I and the Napoleonic Era, as well as the rise of the 'Rising Sun' under Hirohito preceding World War II. For a time I focused on the Ottoman Empire and its (british/US influenced) disintegration into the modern 'Warring States' of the Middle East. I then looked into the effects of post WWII British withdrawal of the middle east, and on the various wars in Afghanistan, including Charlie Wilson's War. After that it was only natural to study the Greco-Persian wars and then to focus on the Persian Empire and Zoroastrianism, including Zoroastrianism's potential effects on the fledgling Hebrew people.

I then studied potential connections with the Hebrew people with contemporary Historical facts regarding ancient Egypt, Canaan, and Mesopotamia. This included Egyptian's creation of the first truly Monotheistic religion revolving around "Akken Aten" that only lasted for one generation, coming before evolution of Judaism from a polytheistic religion revolving around two central gods, Male and Female, that were the creator gods and more powerful than any of the local heathen gods. Once they became aware of true monotheism however, they quickly consolidated the two gods first into 'Elohim' and then into 'Yahweh' by the time of Moses and the procession of out Egypt. I also studied how the Egyptians first greeted the Hebrew people as friends, and then after an invasion of Charioteer-ed barbarians, the Egyptians became Xenophobic and enslaved the Jews. It was during this period, when the Egyptians were resisting foreign occupation, that they became Militarized and Xenophobic, and it was during this period that the Egyptians FIRST used the Chariot, and in fact perfected it into the well established "Egyptian War Chariot." It was this inward Xenophobia against foreigners that had lived among them for nearly 200 years that led to the Hebrew people eventually leaving and establishing their own state. Indeed, this ancient Hebrew people learned well the Xenophobia from their foreign masters, and, unlike later Christians, were extremely exclusive and inward-focused.

Only after the 2007/2008 economic recession did I become interested in contemporary domestic politics. My focus has been broad and abstract thus far and it will take some time to settle into the specifics of current events. Currently I am studying the modern Israeli State. I must say that thus far it seems that US, Britain, and Russia have equal responsibility in the middle east, and if possible should re-establish spheres of influence mimicking the old colonial system.

Solar

Quote from: Aristophanes on August 27, 2014, 05:51:39 PM
This is correct. I first got interested in politics sometime after 9/11.
Thanks for your honesty.
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I have edited the previous post but I feel that I should re-add this point in a new post.

I believe that the current state of the middle east, in various ways, has foreign interference to be held accountable. Therefore re-introducing colonial rule would be the easiest way to take responsibility for past mistakes and missteps. I would argue for three separate spheres of influence ruled by Britain (Israel and Jordan), US (Iraq and Arabian Peninsula), and Russia (Iran, Afganistan, Pakistan, Syria).

Then if Russia would concede Syria to Britain in exchange for the US to pull bases out of Turkey and to move them into Iraq, it would be a step in the right direction for global solidarity within the Middle East.

Solar

Quote from: Aristophanes on August 27, 2014, 06:14:55 PM
I have edited the previous post but I feel that I should re-add this point in a new post.

I believe that the current state of the middle east, in various ways, has foreign interference to be held accountable. Therefore re-introducing colonial rule would be the easiest way to take responsibility for past mistakes and missteps. I would argue for three separate spheres of influence ruled by Britain (Israel and Jordan), US (Iraq and Arabian Peninsula), and Russia (Iran, Afganistan, Pakistan, Syria).

Then if Russia would concede Syria to Britain in exchange for the US to pull bases out of Turkey and to move them into Iraq, it would be a step in the right direction for global solidarity within the Middle East.
You haven't given a lot of thought to this, have you?
None of the aforementioned want anyone ruling over them.

The real solution is to walk away from these idiots and let them kill each other, which could be done rather easily, let us drill our own resources, something we have far more of than the M/E and sell on the open Mkt.
Once they discover the world wants nothing to do with their BS, they'll start fixing their own problems, rather quickly.
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Quote from: Aristophanes on August 27, 2014, 05:51:39 PM
This is correct. I first got interested in politics sometime after 9/11.

Damn, your just a very young pup.  I remember it was Herbert Hoover, that got me interested in politics big time. 
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Quote from: Solar on August 27, 2014, 06:37:52 PM
You haven't given a lot of thought to this, have you?
None of the aforementioned want anyone ruling over them.

The real solution is to walk away from these idiots and let them kill each other, which could be done rather easily, let us drill our own resources, something we have far more of than the M/E and sell on the open Mkt.
Once they discover the world wants nothing to do with their BS, they'll start fixing their own problems, rather quickly.

Of course I have thought of this solution, but I only know of one politician of note that would ever support full US withdrawal from Global affairs.

If we cannot colonize the Middle East then we should withdraw all bases, cease selling further weaponry, and stop all foreign aid altogether, exept for direct gifting of food and medicine. But all US weapons should stay in US soil and all US money should be used only for directly purchasing US interests, as opposed to giving aid to nations that need to help themselves.

The original proposal within this post (and its sister post) goes something like this ...

(Israel, figure out what to do with your Arab population, and US, either take over the Middle East or stop funding Israel and all other nations)

My Colonization proposal is really under the same ideology, as it just makes such regions of note INTO american soil, thereby allowing the use of US weaponry, money, soldiers, and other resources into the region to secure US interests. However I see this as an option ONLY if we also make these regions INTO American soil.

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Quote from: Aristophanes on August 27, 2014, 06:14:55 PM
I have edited the previous post but I feel that I should re-add this point in a new post.

I believe that the current state of the middle east, in various ways, has foreign interference to be held accountable. Therefore re-introducing colonial rule would be the easiest way to take responsibility for past mistakes and missteps. I would argue for three separate spheres of influence ruled by Britain (Israel and Jordan), US (Iraq and Arabian Peninsula), and Russia (Iran, Afganistan, Pakistan, Syria).

Then if Russia would concede Syria to Britain in exchange for the US to pull bases out of Turkey and to move them into Iraq, it would be a step in the right direction for global solidarity within the Middle East.

It would appear you have come out of all your studying of history unscarred from reality. The people in the ME want no part of the West. I agree with Solar. Harvest our own resources and leave the ME to themselves and fight it out. The involvement of the West should be limited to fully support and supply Israel as they are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves.
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