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Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« on: December 26, 2018, 10:57:18 AM »
Most first world countries have it except USA. If yes, should these countries be warned because they will become communist?
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #1 on: December 26, 2018, 11:50:42 AM »
Most first world countries have it except USA. If yes, should these countries be warned because they will become communist?

Feel free to war them, but they won't listen. Just look at the leftists in this country. Do they listen to sanity?
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #2 on: December 26, 2018, 12:23:47 PM »
Most first world countries have it except USA. If yes, should these countries be warned because they will become communist?
So called "Universal Healthcare" is one of the first steps toward communism.
In order to have it, a govt needs to steal the peoples money, so others that refuse to work get it free.
I know you're just trolling, but look at Cuba, hardly the bastion of freedom, but they get so called free HC, but then, if you look at the income across the board, 90% of the people in country rate below the poverty level.
Meaning 10%, the elites hold all the money and power.
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #3 on: December 26, 2018, 12:52:04 PM »
So called "Universal Healthcare" is one of the first steps toward communism.
In order to have it, a govt needs to steal the peoples money, so others that refuse to work get it free.
I know you're just trolling, but look at Cuba, hardly the bastion of freedom, but they get so called free HC, but then, if you look at the income across the board, 90% of the people in country rate below the poverty level.
Meaning 10%, the elites hold all the money and power.

The elites get the good Healthcare even if they have to come to the U.S. for it. 
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #4 on: December 26, 2018, 01:26:36 PM »
The elites get the good Healthcare even if they have to come to the U.S. for it.
Bingo!!! Just look to Canada for examples.
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2018, 01:38:40 PM »
Bingo!!! Just look to Canada for examples.


Now you know why the Elite in Congress gets the good Healthcare.
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2018, 02:00:06 PM »

Now you know why the Elite in Congress gets the good Healthcare.
Yep, remember when they wrote the bill stating they would be absolved of it entirely?
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2018, 03:08:00 PM »
So called "Universal Healthcare" is one of the first steps toward communism.
In order to have it, a govt needs to steal the peoples money, so others that refuse to work get it free.
I know you're just trolling, but look at Cuba, hardly the bastion of freedom, but they get so called free HC, but then, if you look at the income across the board, 90% of the people in country rate below the poverty level.
Meaning 10%, the elites hold all the money and power.

Nope. I am not a troll. I am trying to understand what the lefties in USA want and how they compare this country to other first world countries.

So, we should tell conservatives and nationalists in Western first world countries with universal healthcare to warn them that government run healthcare never work and will turn their countries communist and eventually a dictatorship? It seems they are not listening to Trump or American conservatives.

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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2018, 04:05:17 PM »
The elites get the good Healthcare even if they have to come to the U.S. for it.

Socialism is for the people, not the socialist.
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2018, 04:20:28 PM »
Nope. I am not a troll. I am trying to understand what the lefties in USA want and how they compare this country to other first world countries.

So, we should tell conservatives and nationalists in Western first world countries with universal healthcare to warn them that government run healthcare never work and will turn their countries communist and eventually a dictatorship? It seems they are not listening to Trump or American conservatives.
The EU set out on the path several decades ago, the people protested, but the elites were more interested in control, and now look at what is happening there, riots in the streets, and if history will prove a repeat of the past.
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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #10 on: December 26, 2018, 04:51:32 PM »
The EU set out on the path several decades ago, the people protested, but the elites were more interested in control, and now look at what is happening there, riots in the streets, and if history will prove a repeat of the past.

This is mostly beacause of globalism and bad immigration policies set up by EU elites. Other than that, the anti EU leaders in Poland, Hungary, and Russia are not getting rid of their government run healthcare systems. This is a problem with first world leaders against globalism and EU.

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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #11 on: December 26, 2018, 05:19:33 PM »
This is mostly beacause of globalism and bad immigration policies set up by EU elites. Other than that, the anti EU leaders in Poland, Hungary, and Russia are not getting rid of their government run healthcare systems. This is a problem with first world leaders against globalism and EU.

From what I understand about the topic and the things I've heard through podcasts, universal healthcare is not sustainable in the U.S. due to not only the enormous costs but also the varying coverages and differing ethnicities in which the US is comprised of. I remember hearing somewhere that the Nordic countries are able to sustain it because they have a very ethnically homogenous group of people, thus allowing a very specific gene pool. In the US, with so many different people, races, and ethnicities, it would not work.

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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #12 on: December 26, 2018, 07:57:22 PM »
Universal healthcare is not communist or socialist or any political ideology. It is however the only healthcare available in communist and socialist countries because it is a form of control. When I say socialist I mean true socialist countries such as Cuba and Venezuela. Not Denmark, Sweden and other European countries who supply massive government utilities. Those countries may have universal healthcare but their governments do not control all industries and they do not central plan their economies.
Universal healthcare does work in those countries-to a point because their populations are small and their taxes structure is incredibly progressive. They also have next to no military to fund.



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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #13 on: December 26, 2018, 11:40:26 PM »
From what I understand about the topic and the things I've heard through podcasts, universal healthcare is not sustainable in the U.S. due to not only the enormous costs but also the varying coverages and differing ethnicities in which the US is comprised of. I remember hearing somewhere that the Nordic countries are able to sustain it because they have a very ethnically homogenous group of people, thus allowing a very specific gene pool. In the US, with so many different people, races, and ethnicities, it would not work.

I don’t think ethnicity has to do with it because Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have universal healthcare and different ethnicities.

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Re: Is universal healthcare a type of communism?
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2018, 05:22:53 AM »
I don’t think ethnicity has to do with it because Canada, Australia, and New Zealand have universal healthcare and different ethnicities.
The biggest threat of socializing medicine, is it removes innovation and advancement in medicine and procedure, profit drives these, where socialized med is looking to always cut costs..
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