This gentleman make an argument that he is.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970103362526957570.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970103362526957570.html)
What's/where's the counter argument?
Quote from: Rick on March 04, 2018, 08:09:01 PM
This gentleman make an argument that he is.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970103362526957570.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970103362526957570.html)
What's/where's the counter argument?
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Firstly, Vachel Lindsay is a long dead 19th century Romantic Poet of modest ability and whoever scribbled these 40ish points is at the same level.
* Trump may be many things but genius 'ain't one of em'.
* Sun-Tzu asserted that leaders must know their enemy and know themselves.
Given his performance to date, it's apparent Trump is 0 for 2.
* Machiavelli told us that it is far better the leader be feared rather than loved; an attribute the Ancients knew in their very bones. The media and political opposition urinates daily on Trump because they have absolutely no fear of him.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 04, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
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Firstly, Vachel Lindsay is a long dead 19th century Romantic Poet of modest ability and whoever scribbled these 40ish points is at the same level.
* Trump may be many things but genius 'ain't one of em'.
* Sun-Tzu asserted that leaders must know their enemy and know themselves.
Given his performance to date, it's apparent Trump is 0 for 2.
* Machiavelli told us that it is far better the leader be feared rather than loved; an attribute the Ancients knew in their very bones. The media and political opposition urinates daily on Trump because they have absolutely no fear of him.
As far as the media is concerned I agree with you, they have no fear of TRUMP. If they did they would not Uniate on him daily. TRUMP does not hate FAKE NEWS as much as he wants all to believe. He uses the media and FAKE NEWS to get a rise out of his base when he steps in it because they luv him beating up FAKE NEWS MEDIA. He could stop the media any time e wants to but chooses not to. He recently attended some fake news fiction and we will never know it but behind the scene they were all enjoying each other's company and probably laughing the arise off of the media scam TRUMP and the media are pulling on the country. All for thr good cause of diverting our attention from the important issues like approving the largest spending budget in the history and not talking about it. We are getting fooled again, like it or not.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 04, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
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Firstly, Vachel Lindsay is a long dead 19th century Romantic Poet of modest ability and whoever scribbled these 40ish points is at the same level.
* Trump may be many things but genius 'ain't one of em'.
* Sun-Tzu asserted that leaders must know their enemy and know themselves.
Given his performance to date, it's apparent Trump is 0 for 2.
* Machiavelli told us that it is far better the leader be feared rather than loved; an attribute the Ancients knew in their very bones. The media and political opposition urinate daily on Trump because they have absolutely no fear of him.
Machiavelli was a failure compared to Sun Wu, who went on to win battles against enemies 10 fold his army, and I believe Trump and his cohorts have studied, not only all the great philosophers and battles over millennia, but Sun Tzu in depth.
Let me give you several examples why I believe this to be true.
Here is what you have fallen for, the left's narrative that Trump is a buffoon, and that's exactly what he wants.
The first one shows just how well Trump plays the game and exposes just how stupid his enemy really is.
This is why Q sometimes says, "These People Are Truly Stupid", though, this is part of the plan in misleading the enemy, it is also a very true statement.
A military operation involves deception. Even though you are competent, appear to be incompetent. Though effective, appear to be ineffective.
Mueller...
Keep your friends close, and your enemies closer.
All war is based on deception.
All war is deception.
All warfare is based on deception.
Convince your enemy that he will gain very little by attacking you; this will diminish his enthusiasm.
Engage people with what they expect; it is what they are able to discern and confirms their projections. It settles them into predictable patterns of response, occupying their minds while you wait for the extraordinary moment - that which they cannot anticipate.
This is what Q has been alluding to all along.
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 04, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
QuoteFirstly, Vachel Lindsay is a long dead 19th century Romantic Poet of modest ability and whoever scribbled these 40ish points is at the same level.
"Sauce" is a liquid, cream, or semi-solid food served on or used in preparing other foods. ....So what? Am I chopped beef? Does anyone know or care really why I have that handle? Dont judge me bro ;-) seriously who cares what their twitter handle is
Quote* Trump may be many things but genius 'ain't one of em'.
Personally, this just reassures me this is his plan and it is working
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* Sun-Tzu asserted that leaders must know their enemy and know themselves.
Given his performance to date, it's apparent Trump is 0 for 2.
Again, time will tell but I really do agree with the author and Thomas Victor who she references...
Quote* Machiavelli told us that it is far better the leader be feared rather than loved; an attribute the Ancients knew in their very bones. The media and political opposition urinates daily on Trump because they have absolutely no fear of him.
I really dont equate Machiavellianism to Trump, so I absolutely agree with you on your statement concerning the media...which is all part of the plan.
Quote from: Rick on March 04, 2018, 08:09:01 PM
This gentleman make an argument that he is.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970103362526957570.html (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/970103362526957570.html)
What's/where's the counter argument?
I would say his observation of "being it the weeds" pretty much applies to half the nation.
Trump has the left so off balance, they're chasing an LED light like a kitten. He releases a post, and they pounce on it, prepare for a followup attack, only to discover he changed the game and is now throwing a ball, then a frisbee, dangling a fish in a feather boa, never once knowing what or why.
He does this via Narrative Changeup and the left is completely at a loss in dealing with someone using their very own weapon against them, the media...
Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2018, 06:57:41 AM
I would say his observation of "being it the weeds" pretty much applies to half the nation.
Trump has the left so off balance, they're chasing an LED light like a kitten. He releases a post, and they pounce on it, prepare for a followup attack, only to discover he changed the game and is now throwing a ball, then a frisbee, dangling a fish in a feather boa, never once knowing what or why.
He does this via Narrative Changeup and the left is completely at a loss in dealing with someone using their very own weapon against them, the media...
heh....now that's a great anology :thumbsup:
Quote from: Sauce on March 05, 2018, 07:20:52 AM
heh....now that's a great anology :thumbsup:
I think many of us have come to see what he is doing, is in truth, pure genius.
We have a unique perspective, in that, we never got caught up in the trump hype, we, in truth, despised what the GOP did to Cruz in getting Trump selected, especially considering just how left the GOP really is, anyone they want, must be as leftist as they are.
So, being true skeptics, we watch, day after day, week after week, Trump is no doubt going to go lib on us.
Still, months and months go by, and nothing, not one damn leftist move, though his rhetoric was all about placating to the left.
Now more than a year has gone by, and he has yet to go back on his campaign promises, he has yet to burn the base, and all that leftist placating, was just that, lip service rhetoric to the left.
We, the enlightened, think he has the left off balance, just think how McCON-nel and his Establishment Marxist whores are taking all of this? :lol:
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 04, 2018, 09:15:12 PM
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Firstly, Vachel Lindsay is a long dead 19th century Romantic Poet of modest ability and whoever scribbled these 40ish points is at the same level.
* Trump may be many things but genius 'ain't one of em'.
* Sun-Tzu asserted that leaders must know their enemy and know themselves.
Given his performance to date, it's apparent Trump is 0 for 2.
* Machiavelli told us that it is far better the leader be feared rather than loved; an attribute the Ancients knew in their very bones. The media and political opposition urinates daily on Trump because they have absolutely no fear of him.
I love it when I read a purely silly tall tale of Trump losing, the media and dems winning, and so on.
Have you actually watched, witnessed, or noticed the last 18 months ? Seriously ? Have you not seen left / dem / socialist / media suckers getting dismantled on a daily basis ?
Exactly what THINGS have gone well for the left, and bad for Trump ? I mean, NOT juvenile descriptions of biased positions on things of no actual import. Like "hahahaha everybody's quitting" or "hawhawhaw Jared lost his TS" or "teeheehee Trump didn't get everything he wanted yesterday".
Give us something REAL where Trump lost and the left won.
And yeah, the guy is 10000000 X more intelligent than you.... so have some dignity, don't queef on and on about all that.
Sun Tzu: "Hiding order beneath the cloak of disorder is simply a question of subdivision; concealing courage
under a show of timidity presupposes a fund of latent energy; masking strength with weakness is to
be effected by tactical dispositions."
This is Trump to a "T" "Q".... :biggrin:
Hopefully it will end up more like 4-D whoopass. In brilliant HD 4D curved screen megapixel.
Repeating, I voted for Trump and wish his Presidency success for the sake of the nation
which has absolutely nothing to go w/my personal opinion of him.
Assert the vast majority of plain people, go about their daily lives having
utterly no interest in the horse manure of politics and those who shovel it.
Rather they focus on their circle of self, family, friends, and job.
As such, the so called winning/losing obsessions of the msm/DC has zero interest for them.
Anyone doubting it, suggest they knock on a neighbor's door and engage them in a
debate on whether Trump is winning/losing. Be careful the door doesn't hit you when closing.
A note about genius; others do the labeling, not ourselves. Prolly desperate for attention.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 05, 2018, 02:22:24 PM
Repeating, I voted for Trump and wish his Presidency success for the sake of the nation
which has absolutely nothing to go w/my personal opinion of him.
Assert the vast majority of plain people, go about their daily lives having
utterly no interest in the horse manure of politics and those who shovel it.
Rather they focus on their circle of self, family, friends, and job.
As such, the so called winning/losing obsessions of the msm/DC has zero interest for them.
Anyone doubting it, suggest they knock on a neighbor's door and engage them in a
debate on whether Trump is winning/losing. Be careful the door doesn't hit you when closing.
A note about genius; others do the labeling, not ourselves. Prolly desperate for attention.
This is why we're here, to disseminate the truth as best as possible.
I can't speak for others, just a few and we eat, sleep and drink politics...
I live for this shit, I watch it with intense interest, enough to see beyond what 99% of what the average American digests from mild reading.
If you want to know what's actually going on, then just ask.
I may not be privy to behind the scene goings on, but I see patterns and strategy in play and know who is winning and who is on the losing side.
It took decades to get to where I am, a place most people have no interest in being. Suffice it to say, many of us here pay extremely close attention
and distribute summaries so others can understand what is going on.
Such as the Clinton Indictment, or DACA Dies March 5.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/daca-dies-march-5/
Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2018, 06:01:44 AM
Machiavelli was a failure compared to Sun Wu, who went on to win battles against enemies 10 fold his army, and I believe Trump and his cohorts have studied, not only all the great philosophers and battles over millennia, but Sun Tzu in depth.
This is what Q has been alluding to all along.
Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
Trump definitely is a Student of Sun Tzu, I recall back in the early 80's when he said this on some interview or other and then for a time "Sun Tzu" became fashionable among CEO's If he studies Sun Tzu he likely Studied the Book of Five rings by Myamoto Musahi.
Both talk of spies and intelligence gathering, one type of Spy spreads false information and rumors among the foe. Trump does this a lot "thinking out loud" on something that appeals to the left then changes the subject after the chomp the bait.
And to Nzone and Walter Zosh, yes, the media HAVE NO FEAR of Trump....BUT their slanderous attacks have NO EFFECT....
Ergo TRUMP has no fear of the Media, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY TRULY DON'T LIKE. They dont understand how to handle this, they attack and revile and his ratings go up....it drives them nuts.
Trump doesn't have to play 4d chess when his opponents are playing Connect 4 with half the pieces missing.
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on March 05, 2018, 05:09:18 PM
Trump definitely is a Student of Sun Tzu, I recall back in the early 80's when he said this on some interview or other and then for a time "Sun Tzu" became fashionable among CEO's If he studies Sun Tzu he likely Studied the Book of Five rings by Myamoto Musahi.
Both talk of spies and intelligence gathering, one type of Spy spreads false information and rumors among the foe. Trump does this a lot "thinking out loud" on something that appeals to the left then changes the subject after the chomp the bait.
And to Nzone and Walter Zosh, yes, the media HAVE NO FEAR of Trump....BUT their slanderous attacks have NO EFFECT....Ergo TRUMP has no fear of the Media, AND THAT IS WHAT THEY TRULY DON'T LIKE. They dont understand how to handle this, they attack and revile and his ratings go up....it drives them nuts.
I love that the most! :thumbsup:
Quote from: The Boo Man... on March 05, 2018, 05:20:38 PM
Trump doesn't have to play 4d chess when his opponents are playing Connect 4 with half the pieces missing.
Trump gave the Dims this puzzle and kept Calif., it's driving libs nuts.
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Quote from: Solar on March 05, 2018, 03:41:47 PM
This is why we're here, to disseminate the truth as best as possible.
I can't speak for others, just a few and we eat, sleep and drink politics...
I live for this shit, I watch it with intense interest, enough to see beyond what 99% of what the average American digests from mild reading.
If you want to know what's actually going on, then just ask.
I may not be privy to behind the scene goings on, but I see patterns and strategy in play and know who is winning and who is on the losing side.
It took decades to get to where I am, a place most people have no interest in being. Suffice it to say, many of us here pay extremely close attention
and distribute summaries so others can understand what is going on.
Such as the Clinton Indictment, or DACA Dies March 5.
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/daca-dies-march-5/
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Solar,
Seriously, on a personal note and to your credit;
the intensity of your focus on the political is astonishing.
Good thing for the DC Gang, you're not Attorney General.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 05, 2018, 06:55:02 PM
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Solar,
Seriously, on a personal note and to your credit;
the intensity of your focus on the political is astonishing.
Good thing for the DC Gang, you're not Attorney General.
They would need two more Federal prisons.
Wow for a bored Sunday evening thread, I really got people started.
Me, I see some brilliant moves, and on occasion lose sight and wonder.
It is good to see so many with a positive outlook.
Quote from: Walter Josh on March 05, 2018, 06:55:02 PM
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Solar,
Seriously, on a personal note and to your credit;
the intensity of your focus on the political is astonishing.
Good thing for the DC Gang, you're not Attorney General.
I'll settle for the position of executioner. :biggrin:
Ya know, it's odd, but as a kid, I had a fascination with politics. It was JFK's death that got me started paying attention.
This went on through junior high, then puberty hit and my focus didn't end, but it was distracted by girls, but again, I always paid close attention because LBJ drug my brother off to Nam where he was shot during the Tett Offensive and I thought for sure I was next so I joined, that was during Nixon, whom I never trusted, but voted for because the alternative of a socialist was out of the question. Yes, I was pretty much born a Conservative to the bone.
But when Carter hit the scene, it became personal because the damage of incompetency was beyond palpable.
This is when I became keenly aware of the Establishment. Yeah, it has become somewhat of an obsession for me, and what bugs me the most is, I hate politics. Talk about a conundrum. :blink:
Great thread on Sessions. The latest, he ALREADY had another special prosecutor, while the dummies kept screaming how he's not doing his damn job and needs to wake up.
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/971886476169502720
Here's the unrolled thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971886476169502720.html
Quote from: taxed on March 08, 2018, 08:31:47 PM
Great thread on Sessions. The latest, he ALREADY had another special prosecutor, while the dummies kept screaming how he's not doing his damn job and needs to wake up.
https://twitter.com/drawandstrike/status/971886476169502720
Here's the unrolled thread:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971886476169502720.html
If this is true about the secret investigation it certainly explains the Trump/Sessions act. This could be huge folks.
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 09, 2018, 04:50:03 AM
If this is true about the secret investigation it certainly explains the Trump/Sessions act. This could be huge folks.
'It's true, I read it yesterday on a very reputable site, (can't remember name) but the article was sooo looong and convoluted, I moved on, but yes, it's true, Trump keeps Sessions separated on purpose, so they can protect the integrity of all the investigations..
Quote from: Solar on March 09, 2018, 05:12:24 AM
'It's true, I read it yesterday on a very reputable site, (can't remember name) but the article was sooo looong and convoluted, I moved on, but yes, it's true, Trump keeps Sessions separated on purpose, so they can protect the integrity of all the investigations..
Brilliant!
Quote from: supsalemgr on March 09, 2018, 05:41:44 AM
Brilliant!
Yes, the left must be going freakin nuts because they can't judge shop. :lol: