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Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« on: April 01, 2017, 08:30:20 AM »
Say it is political fiction. Maybe April fools? Maybe there is life on Mars and this is from there? I don't even believe what I'm reading in this article:

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Democrats in Montana have opposed a bill banning the use of foreign law in its state courts on the grounds that such legislation would target Muslims.

Senate Bill 97, introduced by Keith Regier (R-Kalispell) bans the application of foreign law in Montana’s courts, with the debate particularly focused on Sharia Law, a form of Islamic law typically used in the Middle East.

Although the bill passed on party lines by 56-44, Democrats claimed it was designed to target Muslim communities.

“I think it sends a dangerous message to minority groups both here living in our state and wanting to come visit our state, just merely on the fact that you may be different,” said Rep. Shane Morigeau, D-Missoula, while debating the bill. “I truly believe this law is repugnant. I believe this is not who we are as Montanans.”

Meanwhile, Rep. Ellie Hill Smith (D-Missoula) proposed a failed amendment to the bill to include a ban on both Sharia Law and the Law of Moses, in order to “show the state of Montana that it is not just about Islamic Law.”

“The courts have said that laws that single out certain religions violate the First Amendment,” Smith said, claiming that it was “peppered with anti-Muslim bigotry.”

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/31/montana-democrats-vote-against-bill-banning-sharia-law-call-it-repugnant/

Sharia law isn't the law of our land. Neither is Mosaic law. Ridiculous that the Pubs wrote the bill and even worse that the Dims fought it. What the heck are they voting about? Such a waste of time and resource - they've all lost their minds - haven't they?

I thought those in Montana had more sense. Don't they have guns and can convince their reps to do something productive. "Well congressman, it's Saturday. We'll be sit'n here on the porch with these here shot guns. Your bodies will join that pile of others over there if you don't go in that room there and figure out how to get the potholes out of this-here road by Monday. "

Maybe they can vote in special laws that legalizes such methods of convincing their administration. Ok - maybe shoot'n 'em is over the line. Put 'em in jail for six months. Naw, too expensive ... go ahead and shoot 'em.

Wait - I'm from Ohio. Was that not PC against the good folks from Montana. Oh well.
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #1 on: April 01, 2017, 08:51:54 AM »
Say it is political fiction. Maybe April fools? Maybe there is life on Mars and this is from there? I don't even believe what I'm reading in this article:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/31/montana-democrats-vote-against-bill-banning-sharia-law-call-it-repugnant/

Sharia law isn't the law of our land. Neither is Mosaic law. Ridiculous that the Pubs wrote the bill and even worse that the Dims fought it. What the heck are they voting about? Such a waste of time and resource - they've all lost their minds - haven't they?

I thought those in Montana had more sense. Don't they have guns and can convince their reps to do something productive. "Well congressman, it's Saturday. We'll be sit'n here on the porch with these here shot guns. Your bodies will join that pile of others over there if you don't go in that room there and figure out how to get the potholes out of this-here road by Monday. "

Maybe they can vote in special laws that legalizes such methods of convincing their administration. Ok - maybe shoot'n 'em is over the line. Put 'em in jail for six months. Naw, too expensive ... go ahead and shoot 'em.

Wait - I'm from Ohio. Was that not PC against the good folks from Montana. Oh well.

Solar and Walks probably know more about this than I do. However, I believe Montana is being invaded by refugees from CA who try to bring the sanity they left on CA to MT.
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #2 on: April 01, 2017, 08:59:15 AM »
Solar and Walks probably know more about this than I do. However, I believe Montana is being invaded by refugees from CA who try to bring the sanity they left on CA to MT.

CA? I know there's a lot of fruits and nuts out in CA, but this stretches my imagination on how messed up even they are. Maybe the good folks in MT just think they're from CA. I think we just proved that there is life on Mars and they landed in MT. Hey - there's no MT laws against shooting aliens ... for good reason ...yet.

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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #3 on: April 01, 2017, 09:15:51 AM »
Solar and Walks probably know more about this than I do. However, I believe Montana is being invaded by refugees from CA who try to bring the sanity they left on CA to MT.
Nah, Easterners, same scum that invaded Ca decades ago. I wanted to move to Mt back in the 70s but my uncle, a native of Mt said Libs run the state, stay away, nothing good will ever come of it, which is sad because Mt is beautiful country to those of us that love wilderness.

Mt suffers the same as does any state with a large city dominating the landscape, the left Gerrymanders the districts to afford them unreasonable power, like La and the Bay area do here, though geographically only a tiny percentage of the state, they wield 90% of the power.
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #4 on: April 01, 2017, 09:23:19 AM »
Nah, Easterners, same scum that invaded Ca decades ago. I wanted to move to Mt back in the 70s but my uncle, a native of Mt said Libs run the state, stay away, nothing good will ever come of it, which is sad because Mt is beautiful country to those of us that love wilderness.

Mt suffers the same as does any state with a large city dominating the landscape, the left Gerrymanders the districts to afford them unreasonable power, like La and the Bay area do here, though geographically only a tiny percentage of the state, they wield 90% of the power.

Let's use a Judo move - give the libs what they want! Warn our friends in MT to clear out. Then work with their leadership to make Sharia equally becomes the law of the land in MT. After the radical Muslims enforce their laws and roll the heads of the libs for their typical practices that violate Sharia, then the Feds can go in and take the state back. We might want to wait awhile to make sure that the purge is complete.

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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2017, 09:42:51 AM »
Wow - you're a pretty subdued crowd today. I've been on a roll this morning ... some pretty good satire on this thread. My attempt at comic releif. I don't think SNL will be calling me anytime soon though.  :sad: Where's the Boo Man when I need him to rock this with me?

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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #6 on: April 01, 2017, 09:47:34 AM »
Nah, Easterners, same scum that invaded Ca decades ago. I wanted to move to Mt back in the 70s but my uncle, a native of Mt said Libs run the state, stay away, nothing good will ever come of it, which is sad because Mt is beautiful country to those of us that love wilderness.

Mt suffers the same as does any state with a large city dominating the landscape, the left Gerrymanders the districts to afford them unreasonable power, like La and the Bay area do here, though geographically only a tiny percentage of the state, they wield 90% of the power.
Progs don't run my state yet, but they're making significant inroads in the larger population areas. The change in power balance comes from the fact that the larger population areas are outgrowing the rural areas by a factor of 3-1. (Hard to call it "urban" when talking to people who live in cities with more people than my entire state!)  And yes, a majority component of that urban growth is the result of incoming progs from CA. NY and other hard core commie regions of the east contribute also, all of them basically running from the total ruin they've made of their home states, only to come here and start promoting the same things that made them move in the first place. (Progs really are brain dead. The Zombie Apocalypse started a long time ago!)

OTOH, a lot of democrat natives who otherwise lean conservative are starting to realize what Reagan realized long ago - the democratic party has left their ideology behind in favor of Marxism. So they're starting to move to the right and change their registration from democrat to independent. At the same time, "Just leave me the hell alone" conservatives are waking to the fact they can no longer stay out of politics and expect to just be left alone. As such, there is a marked resurgence of conservatism in the political arena.

Still love my state, and looking around, cannot see anywhere better politically that isn't facing the same influx of progs.

Would be nice if at least SOME of our CA invaders were conservatives.

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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #7 on: April 01, 2017, 09:52:40 AM »
Let's use a Judo move - give the libs what they want! Warn our friends in MT to clear out. Then work with their leadership to make Sharia equally becomes the law of the land in MT. After the radical Muslims enforce their laws and roll the heads of the libs for their typical practices that violate Sharia, then the Feds can go in and take the state back. We might want to wait awhile to make sure that the purge is complete.
Quite honestly, this was a stupid move, we already have a Constitution that dictates the law of the land.
Doing what they did, acknowledges that an alternative is possible.
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #8 on: April 01, 2017, 10:02:19 AM »
Quite honestly, this was a stupid move, we already have a Constitution that dictates the law of the land.
Doing what they did, acknowledges that an alternative is possible.

In theory, I'd agree with you ... but I have read several cases now where the lower courts have sided with Sharia. An excerpt from the following article (link provided) is very disturbing: ..."That study examined a sample of fifty cases and found that in twenty-seven of them, in twenty-three different states, the courts in question allowed the use of shariah, generally to the detriment of women and/or children whose rights under our Constitution were infringed."...

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/01/05/shariah-in-american-courts-the-expanding-incursion-of-islamic-law-in-the-u-s-legal-system/

Also, the bill mentioned previously was proposed in the MT legislature on March 22.

http://leg.mt.gov/bills/2017/billhtml/SB0097.htm
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #9 on: April 01, 2017, 10:15:35 AM »
Say it is political fiction. Maybe April fools? Maybe there is life on Mars and this is from there? I don't even believe what I'm reading in this article:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/03/31/montana-democrats-vote-against-bill-banning-sharia-law-call-it-repugnant/

Sharia law isn't the law of our land. Neither is Mosaic law. Ridiculous that the Pubs wrote the bill and even worse that the Dims fought it. What the heck are they voting about? Such a waste of time and resource - they've all lost their minds - haven't they?

I thought those in Montana had more sense. Don't they have guns and can convince their reps to do something productive. "Well congressman, it's Saturday. We'll be sit'n here on the porch with these here shot guns. Your bodies will join that pile of others over there if you don't go in that room there and figure out how to get the potholes out of this-here road by Monday. "

Maybe they can vote in special laws that legalizes such methods of convincing their administration. Ok - maybe shoot'n 'em is over the line. Put 'em in jail for six months. Naw, too expensive ... go ahead and shoot 'em.

Wait - I'm from Ohio. Was that not PC against the good folks from Montana. Oh well.

No, Sharia isn't the law of the land yet ...but it is slowly creeping into our society, especially through the liberal school system.  Dearborn, MI is a prime of example of how heavily entrenched Muslim influence is in our society; they have the first majority Muslim city council.

This issue is why we desperately need a president that will mandate enforcement of existing immigration laws and to keep fighting to ban those immigrants from areas of known terrorism.

Quite frankly I believe ISIS is in our neighborhoods. Sharia law is being implemented in our schools and there is a definite attack on Christianity.  That is why I wanted Cruz; he is very active in trying to curb the attack on Christianity.  Why all the evangelicals supported Trump is beyond me. 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/nov/15/michigan-muslim-majority-city-council-hamtramck-detroit
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #10 on: April 01, 2017, 10:16:57 AM »
In theory, I'd agree with you ... but I have read several cases now where the lower courts have sided with Sharia. An excerpt from the following article (link provided) is very disturbing: ..."That study examined a sample of fifty cases and found that in twenty-seven of them, in twenty-three different states, the courts in question allowed the use of shariah, generally to the detriment of women and/or children whose rights under our Constitution were infringed."...

http://www.centerforsecuritypolicy.org/2015/01/05/shariah-in-american-courts-the-expanding-incursion-of-islamic-law-in-the-u-s-legal-system/

Also, the bill mentioned previously was proposed in the MT legislature on March 22.

http://leg.mt.gov/bills/2017/billhtml/SB0097.htm
This is why we have upper courts, so bad judges can be admonished and wrongs righted.
The problem is the GOP and it's refusal to remove these judges and appoint Conservative ones.
These idiots allow precedent to become law of the land by not doing what they were elected to do, protect our Constitution.
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #11 on: April 01, 2017, 10:23:00 AM »
This is why we have upper courts, so bad judges can be admonished and wrongs righted.
The problem is the GOP and it's refusal to remove these judges and appoint Conservative ones.
These idiots allow precedent to become law of the land by not doing what they were elected to do, protect our Constitution.

I agree with you.  The push for political correctness from the DEMS on this issue is unbelievable.  Our students are indoctrinated with the background of sharia law in many of our schools long before they leave high school.  That is my beef with Common Core and Jeb! The Common Core curriculum is inclusive of Isam and sharia law.
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #12 on: April 01, 2017, 11:27:52 AM »
Progs don't run my state yet, but they're making significant inroads in the larger population areas. The change in power balance comes from the fact that the larger population areas are outgrowing the rural areas by a factor of 3-1. (Hard to call it "urban" when talking to people who live in cities with more people than my entire state!)  And yes, a majority component of that urban growth is the result of incoming progs from CA. NY and other hard core commie regions of the east contribute also, all of them basically running from the total ruin they've made of their home states, only to come here and start promoting the same things that made them move in the first place. (Progs really are brain dead. The Zombie Apocalypse started a long time ago!)

OTOH, a lot of democrat natives who otherwise lean conservative are starting to realize what Reagan realized long ago - the democratic party has left their ideology behind in favor of Marxism. So they're starting to move to the right and change their registration from democrat to independent. At the same time, "Just leave me the hell alone" conservatives are waking to the fact they can no longer stay out of politics and expect to just be left alone. As such, there is a marked resurgence of conservatism in the political arena.

Still love my state, and looking around, cannot see anywhere better politically that isn't facing the same influx of progs.

Would be nice if at least SOME of our CA invaders were conservatives.

Why would conservative move to CA?

Speaking of these internal invasions. It reminds me of what my late fraternity brother Lewis Grizzard wrote. I paraphrase.

"Come on down. enjoy our weather.  Marry our women. Just don't tell us how you did it in Cleveland. We don't care. Don't like it here? Delta is ready when you are. Have you back in Cleveland in 1 1/2 hours."  :smile:
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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #13 on: April 01, 2017, 11:55:32 AM »
Why would conservative move to CA?

Speaking of these internal invasions. It reminds me of what my late fraternity brother Lewis Grizzard wrote. I paraphrase.

"Come on down. enjoy our weather.  Marry our women. Just don't tell us how you did it in Cleveland. We don't care. Don't like it here? Delta is ready when you are. Have you back in Cleveland in 1 1/2 hours."  :smile:

Nicely done - a dig on Ohio in a quote from a personal friend! You've got a lot of range.   :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm from Cincinnati though and we throw Cleveland under the bus all the time. Cincinnati governance seems to be about 100 years behind everyone else. That's a good thing some of the time - hope we never catch up.

Kentucky is just across the river. There was never much debate about having unisex out-houses. Kentucky ships some of them to CA ... CA calls them Tiny Houses.  :lol: :lol: :lol:

I hear OR is going to follow suit on CA - OR is the CA wannbes - snowflakes are fresher there. But OR is going to put their homeless in the "tiny houes" out in their yards. Just dig a hole underneath.

This just keeps getting better. I'm having a good day (satirically). Alright ... I'll stop. Sorry. Pretty soon Solar's gunna put me in the penalty box again. Where did I put that Oxycodone? Oh - Blake must have taken it.  :lol: :lol: :lol: It's been a long week - I need to get out more.

I'm still waiting for Boo to show up. 

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Re: Is this out of a political fiction novel?
« Reply #14 on: April 01, 2017, 12:05:01 PM »
BTW - this whole Montana and Sharia law thing set me off - blew my mind. Really? Montana and Sharia law. I thought these two were from the opposite ends of the political world and would be the last to every meet up ... not until everything had about turned into background noise (thermodynamically speaking) would these two meet. I need a "my mind was just blown" emoji ... I'll substitute this one:  :confused:

I'm still thinking the whole story is an April Fools prank. Just say it is. Let me in on it guys.

 

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