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General Category => Political Discussion and Debate => Topic started by: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 10:22:58 AM

Title: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?

I'm phrasing this as a question, because I have no link. I cannot confirm this.

But on the Radio (WRKO - Boston), there was a report the Government of Mexico is threatening to end Diplomatic Relations with the USA should President Trump deploy troops on the Border.

Personally, I would welcome that.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Sick Of Silence on April 06, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
Quote from: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?

I'm phrasing this as a question, because I have no link. I cannot confirm this.

But on the Radio (WRKO - Boston), there was a report the Government of Mexico is threatening to end Diplomatic Relations with the USA should President Trump deploy troops on the Border.

Personally, I would welcome that.

Put up a wall, put troops on the border, or both. If Mexico acts up, knock 'em out.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 10:41:50 AM
Quote from: Sick Of Silence on April 06, 2018, 10:38:59 AM
Put up a wall, put troops on the border, or both. If Mexico acts up, knock 'em out.

Time for the real military to become involved - REMEMBER THE ALAMO !!

(https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F_-HE1lR1mlb8%2FS5H4mJgdh_I%2FAAAAAAAAB7s%2FdqlM_B-lquM%2Fw1200-h630-p-nu%2Fmxalamostorm.jpg&hash=842f55fec97626709b07c8641f226265980e3d76)
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Walter Josh on April 06, 2018, 11:07:43 AM
Laughable nonsense.
Mexico is a third world country which because of the blessings of geography and geology has oil.
Otherwise its neighbors are fourth world countries such as El Salvador and Venezuela, who will now become what, its core trading partners and financial investors???
Following the demise of the Aztecs, the Spanish Hapsburgs raised the consciousness and standards of the Mexican people. After their exit, its been downhill for Mexico ever since.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: T Hunt on April 06, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
Quote from: Walter Josh on April 06, 2018, 11:07:43 AM
Laughable nonsense.
Mexico is a third world country which because of the blessings of geography and geology has oil.
Otherwise its neighbors are fourth world countries such as El Salvador and Venezuela, who will now become what, its core trading partners and financial investors???
Following the demise of the Aztecs, the Spanish Hapsburgs raised the consciousness and standards of the Mexican people. After their exit, its been downhill for Mexico ever since.

The best thing for them wld have been if we had just incorporated them into the US after the mexican american war...
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Walter Josh on April 06, 2018, 11:36:08 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on April 06, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
The best thing for them wld have been if we had just incorporated them into the US after the mexican american war...
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For them indeed; for us hardly.
Unless we decided to grow a fruit-bearing
tree every 3 feet square spanning the USA.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 11:41:48 AM
Quote from: T Hunt on April 06, 2018, 11:21:47 AM
The best thing for them wld have been if we had just incorporated them into the US after the mexican american war...

Dear God No.

Even annexing Puerto Rico was a mistake.

They should be independent.

And at this point, so should Southern California.

I could probably be talked into incorporating Canada - unless a study proved them to be Liberals (probably are).
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: AndyJackson on April 06, 2018, 12:00:42 PM
Man I hope so.  Make it easier to annex what the hell we want, like Baja.  And to strafe the cartels whenever we feel like it.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Billy's bayonet on April 06, 2018, 04:43:07 PM
The Cartels are telling the Mexican Govt Officials they own lock stock and barrel they better fight this "wall" and increased Border security anyway they can or they will be seeing a small hole in a big desert.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 05:30:14 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on April 06, 2018, 04:43:07 PM
The Cartels are telling the Mexican Govt Officials they own lock stock and barrel they better fight this "wall" and increased Border security anyway they can or they will be seeing a small hole in a big desert.

To me, this proves the Cartel is brutal, but don't think many moves ahead.

This episode does nothing but ENHANCE our President's positions.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: TheRedRyder on April 06, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
The situation in Mexico needs to be dealt with...particuarly the Cartels who have had a presence up here North of the border for some time...it was pretty much overlooked until Trump brought attention to it.

Well, of course Trump cannot fix everythng overnight.  It is rather amazing he has managed to accomplish so much with all the naysayers nagging at his heels 24/7.  His popularity is increasing due to the fact that I think many are finally waking up to how the msm has conspired against him...not even to mention the elitist/establishment types in his own party.

I do not think just putting troops on the border will suffice....we need to really put the pressure on Mexico.  The government is so corrupt and so compromised by the cartels....that short of an invasion... I have difficulty seeing how any real change can be brought about.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: zewazir on April 06, 2018, 08:13:13 PM
End diplomatic relations?  Does that mean they will voluntarily withdraw from NAFTA?
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Rotwang on April 07, 2018, 07:36:18 AM
Quote from: TheRedRyder on April 06, 2018, 08:00:23 PM
The situation in Mexico needs to be dealt with...particuarly the Cartels who have had a presence up here North of the border for some time...it was pretty much overlooked until Trump brought attention to it.

Well, of course Trump cannot fix everythng overnight.  It is rather amazing he has managed to accomplish so much with all the naysayers nagging at his heels 24/7.  His popularity is increasing due to the fact that I think many are finally waking up to how the msm has conspired against him...not even to mention the elitist/establishment types in his own party.

I do not think just putting troops on the border will suffice....we need to really put the pressure on Mexico.  The government is so corrupt and so compromised by the cartels....that short of an invasion... I have difficulty seeing how any real change can be brought about.

Invading them is the last thing we should do !

Build the Wall, end NAFTA, end VISAs.

And especially bring MONEY TRANSFERS from illegals here to Mexico to a screeching halt.

In short, distance ourself from them as much as possible. Shut them out.

Until they cry UNCLE.

Then they need to PAY US back for the Wall, take back all their citizens, and act like good neighbors.



Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Walter Josh on April 07, 2018, 12:45:55 PM
A thought that the kindler, gentler types will oppose.
Anyway, Wilson sent John Pershing after Villa in 1916, w/orders to hang
him, when caught.
Send military raiding parties into the bunkers and tunnels of the drug
cartels, burn, then collapse them (as the Israeli military does in Gaza).
Then have leaflets dropped on the area w/the message;
"Let them hate; as long as they fear"
Wonder how the media will react???
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Sauce on April 07, 2018, 01:27:46 PM

And just wait until they elect this Marxist.........

QuoteMexican left-wing presidential candidate Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador has an 18-point lead ahead of the July 1 election, according to a poll published on Monday that showed him with a growing advantage at the start of formal campaigning.


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-poll-exclusive/exclusive-mexican-leftist-has-18-point-lead-as-campaign-kicks-off-poll-idUSKCN1H90C1 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-poll-exclusive/exclusive-mexican-leftist-has-18-point-lead-as-campaign-kicks-off-poll-idUSKCN1H90C1)
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: T Hunt on April 07, 2018, 07:43:37 PM
Quote from: Sauce on April 07, 2018, 01:27:46 PM
And just wait until they elect this Marxist.........

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-poll-exclusive/exclusive-mexican-leftist-has-18-point-lead-as-campaign-kicks-off-poll-idUSKCN1H90C1 (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mexico-election-poll-exclusive/exclusive-mexican-leftist-has-18-point-lead-as-campaign-kicks-off-poll-idUSKCN1H90C1)

Poor Mexico...they seem to have had a disproportionate amount of shitty leaders throughout their history.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Old n Grumpy on April 08, 2018, 02:52:07 PM
QuoteIs Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?

And then what?
If we stop sending tourists, buying fruit & vegetables, beer,  tequila, drugs and stop the flow of illegals sending dollars down and the flow of illegals trying to get inthere how would that hurt us?
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: walkstall on April 08, 2018, 02:55:40 PM
Quote from: Old n Grumpy on April 08, 2018, 02:52:07 PM
And then what?
If we stop sending tourists, buying fruit & vegetables, beer,  tequila, drugs and stop the flow of illegals sending dollars down and the flow of illegals trying to get inthere how would that hurt us?


What!! Stopping Tequila is like stopping Cuban Cigars.   :lol:
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Solar on April 08, 2018, 03:38:40 PM
Quote from: Old n Grumpy on April 08, 2018, 02:52:07 PM
And then what?
If we stop sending tourists, buying fruit & vegetables, beer,  tequila, drugs and stop the flow of illegals sending dollars down and the flow of illegals trying to get inthere how would that hurt us?
You're correct, it wouldn't even phase most people.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Walter Josh on April 08, 2018, 07:36:25 PM
Quote from: T Hunt on April 07, 2018, 07:43:37 PM
Poor Mexico...they seem to have had a disproportionate amount of shitty leaders throughout their history.
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After Diaz ruled from 1884-1911 came:
* Francisco Madero 1911-13
* Victor Huerta 1913-14
* Venusti Carranza 1914-20
* Alvaro Obregon 1920-24
All but Carranza were assassinated, as Mexico affirmed its Aztec genes.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Cryptic Bert on April 08, 2018, 08:42:59 PM
Mexico will do no such thing they can deploy their military to the border but when confronted with ours they'll f*ck off rather quickly.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Solar on April 08, 2018, 09:46:46 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on April 06, 2018, 10:22:58 AM
Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?

I'm phrasing this as a question, because I have no link. I cannot confirm this.

But on the Radio (WRKO - Boston), there was a report the Government of Mexico is threatening to end Diplomatic Relations with the USA should President Trump deploy troops on the Border.

Personally, I would welcome that.
I searched and can't find a thing on this whatsoever.
I think someone on the radio was blowing smoke.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: AndyJackson on April 09, 2018, 06:18:45 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 08, 2018, 09:46:46 PM
I searched and can't find a thing on this whatsoever.
I think someone on the radio was blowing smoke.
Just like the ME, NK, etc... for decades they've been whooping it up how evil the US is to excite their masses..... while agreeing with us in private, or at least being very quiet.

Virtually nothing they say to the masses is reality, only a way to maintain support / propaganda / etc.
It would be standard for mexico to have said this publicly,  then called Trump secretly to ask how they can help.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Rotwang on April 09, 2018, 05:42:23 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 08, 2018, 09:46:46 PM
I searched and can't find a thing on this whatsoever.
I think someone on the radio was blowing smoke.

Apparently this is what actually happened:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/04/05/mexican-senate-threatens-stop-helping-u-s-drug-cartels-trump-deploys-troops-border/ (http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/04/05/mexican-senate-threatens-stop-helping-u-s-drug-cartels-trump-deploys-troops-border/)
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Solar on April 09, 2018, 06:35:28 PM
Quote from: Rotwang on April 09, 2018, 05:42:23 PM
Apparently this is what actually happened:

http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/04/05/mexican-senate-threatens-stop-helping-u-s-drug-cartels-trump-deploys-troops-border/ (http://www.breitbart.com/texas/2018/04/05/mexican-senate-threatens-stop-helping-u-s-drug-cartels-trump-deploys-troops-border/)
That's a huge leap to "End Diplomatic Relations with the US"
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: supsalemgr on April 10, 2018, 04:53:53 AM
Quote from: Solar on April 09, 2018, 06:35:28 PM
That's a huge leap to "End Diplomatic Relations with the US"

The Mexican senate must be getting advice from democrats. Ending relations with the US is a sure way for the country to commit suicide.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: zewazir on April 10, 2018, 05:46:46 PM
Quote from: supsalemgr on April 10, 2018, 04:53:53 AM
The Mexican senate must be getting advice from democrats. Ending relations with the US is a sure way for the country to commit suicide.
Not necessarily. End diplomatic relations, make a bunch of anti-USA noises, and next thing ya know democrats arrange to make them a nuclear power.
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Solar on April 10, 2018, 07:38:17 PM
Quote from: zewazir on April 10, 2018, 05:46:46 PM
Not necessarily. End diplomatic relations, make a bunch of anti-USA noises, and next thing ya know democrats arrange to make them a nuclear power.
Nuclear? :lol: :lol: :lol:
While (70% of the country still use donkeys for transportation.. :biggrin:
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: zewazir on April 13, 2018, 12:11:38 PM
Quote from: Solar on April 10, 2018, 07:38:17 PM
Nuclear? :lol: :lol: :lol:
While (70% of the country still use donkeys for transportation.. :biggrin:
Iran?  North Korea?
Title: Re: Is Mexico Threatening to End Diplomatic Relations with the US over the Border ?
Post by: Solar on April 13, 2018, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: zewazir on April 13, 2018, 12:11:38 PM
Iran?  North Korea?
What is Precedent, for $500.0 Bob?