The Associated Press reports that world powers will announce a formal deal with Iran in Vienna on Monday. Though there are still minor details to be finalized, the two diplomats who spoke to the AP confirmed that a deal will be reached, though they "cautioned that final details of the pact were still being worked out and a formal agreement still awaits a review from the capitals of the seven nations at the talks."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/12/ap-iran-deal-to-be-announced-monday/


Does ANYONE seriously believe this is going to turn out well????   

Quote from: kroz on July 12, 2015, 01:44:26 PM
The Associated Press reports that world powers will announce a formal deal with Iran in Vienna on Monday. Though there are still minor details to be finalized, the two diplomats who spoke to the AP confirmed that a deal will be reached, though they "cautioned that final details of the pact were still being worked out and a formal agreement still awaits a review from the capitals of the seven nations at the talks."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/12/ap-iran-deal-to-be-announced-monday/


Does ANYONE seriously believe this is going to turn out well????   

If they don't have all the details then they have no agreement.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 12, 2015, 01:46:13 PM
If they don't have all the details then they have no agreement.

Yes they do.

Both sides have known for weeks that a deal would be reached...... absolutely no question about it.

Obama MUST have a deal... regardless!

Obama got a deal, and the Iranians got their bomb.  And their sanctions lifted, and their ballistic missiles, and their weapons proliferation, and their privacy from UN inspections, and our citizens in their prisons. 

In other words, Iran got everything it wanted and Obama got a piece of worthless paper. 

Quote from: kroz on July 12, 2015, 01:44:26 PM
The Associated Press reports that world powers will announce a formal deal with Iran in Vienna on Monday. Though there are still minor details to be finalized, the two diplomats who spoke to the AP confirmed that a deal will be reached, though they "cautioned that final details of the pact were still being worked out and a formal agreement still awaits a review from the capitals of the seven nations at the talks."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/12/ap-iran-deal-to-be-announced-monday/


Does ANYONE seriously believe this is going to turn out well????   

For the Iranians it will. The rest of the M/E has one more reason to turn to Russia.

Quote from: Dori on July 12, 2015, 02:15:33 PM
Obama got a deal, and the Iranians got their bomb.  And their sanctions lifted, and their ballistic missiles, and their weapons proliferation, and their privacy from UN inspections, and our citizens in their prisons. 

In other words, Iran got everything it wanted and Obama got a piece of worthless paper.

Any deal requires a 60 day review by congress! All will come out! I don't believe they will pass on it but Do they have the votes to overcome a veto?
if congress doesn't approve the "agreement" it is only on Obama's word and means nothing to the next president!
The president may be able to lift UN sanctions but not sanctions imposed by congress and signed into law! Does he plan on breaking US law and not enforcing those sanctions? To remove them would require congress to pass a bill!

If you don't have the details, just how do you know what you've agreed to? That would be along the lines of signing a blank sheet of paper and saying we'll fill in the details later.

Quote from: kroz on July 12, 2015, 01:44:26 PM
The Associated Press reports that world powers will announce a formal deal with Iran in Vienna on Monday. Though there are still minor details to be finalized, the two diplomats who spoke to the AP confirmed that a deal will be reached, though they "cautioned that final details of the pact were still being worked out and a formal agreement still awaits a review from the capitals of the seven nations at the talks."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/12/ap-iran-deal-to-be-announced-monday/


Does ANYONE seriously believe this is going to turn out well????   

Yes....For Iran.

Quote from: mdgiles on July 12, 2015, 03:01:02 PM
If you don't have the details, just how do you know what you've agreed to? That would be along the lines of signing a blank sheet of paper and saying we'll fill in the details later.

You must vote for it before you can see what's in it. 

Quote from: redbeard on July 12, 2015, 02:57:58 PM
Any deal requires a 60 day review by congress! All will come out! I don't believe they will pass on it but Do they have the votes to overcome a veto?
if congress doesn't approve the "agreement" it is only on Obama's word and means nothing to the next president!
The president may be able to lift UN sanctions but not sanctions imposed by congress and signed into law! Does he plan on breaking US law and not enforcing those sanctions? To remove them would require congress to pass a bill!

I think I heard McConnell say earlier today that it would take 34 Republican votes to approve it..... in conjunction with the democrats.  There are probably at least 34 RINOs willing to sell their soul.

Quote from: kroz on July 12, 2015, 03:45:56 PM
I think I heard McConnell say earlier today that it would take 34 Republican votes to approve it..... in conjunction with the democrats.  There are probably at least 34 RINOs willing to sell their soul.

No I heard the interview on fox! He was talking about Obama needing 34 Senators to keep the senate from sustaining a veto and he wasn't sure Obama could find that many! It will be interesting to see what the senate vote will be but that won't be for 2 months!

Quote from: kroz on July 12, 2015, 03:45:56 PM
I think I heard McConnell say earlier today that it would take 34 Republican votes to approve it..... in conjunction with the democrats.  There are probably at least 34 RINOs willing to sell their soul.

He said that when the Senate votes NO... president obama will need 34 Democrats to uphold his veto of the Senate's NO vote.

Besides, there is no deal. 

Otherwise, the European-press would be reporting it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/12/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKCN0PM0CE20150712

The deadline may even be pushed back again.

Quote from: kit saginaw on July 12, 2015, 04:00:53 PM
He said that when the Senate votes NO... president obama will need 34 Democrats to uphold his veto of the Senate's NO vote.

Besides, there is no deal. 

Otherwise, the European-press would be reporting it.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/07/12/us-iran-nuclear-idUSKCN0PM0CE20150712

The deadline may even be pushed back again.

Okay, I got it wrong.  I'll chalk it up to grandkid overload!! 

Quote from: kroz on July 12, 2015, 01:44:26 PM
The Associated Press reports that world powers will announce a formal deal with Iran in Vienna on Monday. Though there are still minor details to be finalized, the two diplomats who spoke to the AP confirmed that a deal will be reached, though they "cautioned that final details of the pact were still being worked out and a formal agreement still awaits a review from the capitals of the seven nations at the talks."

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/07/12/ap-iran-deal-to-be-announced-monday/


Does ANYONE seriously believe this is going to turn out well????   

No deal for us with tyrants.  Wait....who am I kidding?  Bozo is a tyrant!

In a devious way, this deal works towards a presumed end of reducing American influence around the world.

Powerful, brief comment by retired USN Admiral.
http://www.liveleak.com/ll_embed?f=51fe948515b4