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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #15 on: January 16, 2020, 07:34:02 AM »
And what if they don't? After watching the farce that was put on in the house where the democrats called all the shots, did not allow the republicans to call any witnesses, why do you think there should be "impartial justice" now? Personally, from what I have seen and read and followed, the democrats did not prove that they have a case, so why go through the same stories again? Are you are saying that the investigation should continue, if so, why did the house not finish it? That was their job, it is not the job of the senate to investigate only to rule on the house's investigation.

We'll see what is presented to the Senators and if they don't have any additional questions they can vote to dismiss. But the House Republicans had plenty of questions. I imagine the Senators will as well.
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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2020, 07:56:41 AM »
We'll see what is presented to the Senators and if they don't have any additional questions they can vote to dismiss. But the House Republicans had plenty of questions. I imagine the Senators will as well.
Don't know, they have all seen this dog and pony show once. There are no eyewitnesses, no one who heard the President demand anything.

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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2020, 08:05:12 AM »
As much as is necessary to carry out impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws.

If they have have questions, concerns, etc. They should do what they can to get those answered or resolved before voting to convict or acquit.
That would mean throwing it out the minute the Senate gets this roll of toilet paper.
Hearsay is never accepted in a court of law.
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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2020, 08:54:44 AM »
That would mean throwing it out the minute the Senate gets this roll of toilet paper.
Hearsay is never accepted in a court of law.

Eh. Being that according to the Constitution a crime doesn't even have to be committed for someone to be impeached, I wouldn't hold the Senate trial to those standards.
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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2020, 09:02:04 AM »
Eh. Being that according to the Constitution a crime doesn't even have to be committed for someone to be impeached, I wouldn't hold the Senate trial to those standards.
Say What? "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".
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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2020, 09:14:33 AM »
Say What? "High Crimes and Misdemeanors".

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/the-constitution/t34301/

that's a nice article that covers it all
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2020, 09:16:45 AM »
http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/the-constitution/t34301/

that's a nice article that covers it all
So I'm supposed to read an entire article to figure out what you said? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #22 on: January 16, 2020, 09:18:14 AM »
So I'm supposed to read an entire article to figure out what you said? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

It has an audio option, you can just press play  :thumbup:


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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #23 on: January 16, 2020, 09:33:38 AM »
It has an audio option, you can just press play  :thumbup:
Orrrr? You could prove me wrong... Oh wait, you can't. :lol:
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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2020, 03:13:57 PM »

Sara A. Carter
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"[#Republicans] don’t have the votes for a pre-trial dismissal of the #impeachment case against
@realDonaldTrump
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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #25 on: January 19, 2020, 03:24:40 PM »
Sara A. Carter
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"[#Republicans] don’t have the votes for a pre-trial dismissal of the #impeachment case against
@realDonaldTrump
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How funny is it that we want a trial......................

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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #26 on: January 19, 2020, 03:44:56 PM »
How funny is it that we want a trial......................
Wanna guess who the RINO turncoats are?
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Ground Rules for Trump's Impeachment Trial
« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2020, 06:57:31 PM »
 In a nutshell, it pissed of Chucky. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Senator McConnell repeatedly promised Senators, the public and the press that his rules for the trial would be same as the rules for President Clinton's trial. After reading his resolution, it's clear Senator McConnell is hell-bent on making it much more difficult to get witnesses and documents and intent on rushing the trial through. On something as important as impeachment, Senator McConnell's resolution is nothing short of a national disgrace.

Senator McConnell's proposed rules depart dramatically from the Clinton precedent – in ways that are designed to prevent the Senate and the American people from learning the full truth about President Trump's actions that warranted his impeachment. The McConnell rules don't even allow the simple basic step of admitting the House record into advice at the trial.

Under this resolution, Senator McConnell is saying he doesn't want to hear any existing evidence, and he doesn't want to hear any new evidence. A trial with no evidence – no existing record, no witnesses, no documents – isn't a trial at all. It's a cover up, and the American people will see it for exactly what it is.

Furthermore, Senator McConnell's resolution stipulates that key facts be delivered in the wee hours of the night simply because he doesn't want the American people to hear them. Any senator that votes for the McConnell resolution will be voting to hide information and evidence from the American people.

As soon as Senator McConnell offers this resolution, I will be offering the amendments to address the many flaws in this deeply unfair proposal and to subpoena the witnesses and documents we have requested.

Ground Rules for Trump's Impeachment Trial


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To provide for related procedures concerning the articles of impeachmentagainst Donald John Trump, President of the United States.
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Mr. MCCONNELL
submitted the following resolution; which was referred to theCommittee on

RESOLUTION
To provide for related procedures concerning the articlesof impeachment against Donald John Trump, Presidentof the United States.
 Resolved,
That the House of Representatives shall file
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its record with the Secretary of the Senate, which will con-
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sist of those publicly available materials that have been
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submitted to or produced by the House Judiciary Com-
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mittee, including transcripts of public hearings or mark-
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 ups and any materials printed by the House of Represent-
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atives or the House Judiciary Committee pursuant to
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House Resolution 660. Materials in this record may be
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admitted into evidence by motion made after the Senate
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has disposed of the question of whether it shall be in order
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to consider and debate under the impeachment rules any
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motion to subpoena witnesses or documents. All materials
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filed pursuant to this paragraph shall be printed and made
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available to all parties.
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The President and the House of Representatives shall
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have until 9:00 a.m. on Wednesday, January 22, 2020,
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to file any motions permitted under the rules of impeach-
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ment with the exception of motions to subpoena witnesses
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or documents or any other evidentiary motions. Responses
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to any such motions shall be filed no later than 11:00 a.m.
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on Wednesday, January 22, 2020. All materials filed pur-
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suant to this paragraph shall be filed with the Secretary
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and be printed and made available to all parties.
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 Arguments on such motions shall begin at 1:00 p.m.
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on Wednesday, January 22, 2020, and each side may de-
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termine the number of persons to make its presentation,
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following which the Senate shall deliberate, if so ordered
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 under the impeachment rules, and vote on any such mo-
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tions.
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Following the disposition of such motions, or if no
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motions are made, then the House of Representatives shall
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make its presentation in support of the articles of im-
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peachment for a period of time not to exceed 24 hours,
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over up to 2 session days. Following the House of Rep-
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resentatives’ presentation, the President shall make his
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presentation for a period not to exceed 24 hours, over up
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to 2 session days. Each side may determine the number
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of persons to make its presentation.
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Upon the conclusion of the President’s presentation,
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Senators may question the parties for a period of time
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not to exceed 16 hours.
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Upon the conclusion of questioning by the Senate,
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there shall be 4 hours of argument by the parties, equally
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divided, followed by deliberation by the Senate, if so or-
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dered under the impeachment rules, on the question of
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 whether it shall be in order to consider and debate under
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the impeachment rules any motion to subpoena witnesses
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or documents. The Senate, without any intervening action,
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motion, or amendment, shall then decide by the yeas and
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nays whether it shall be in order to consider and debate
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 under the impeachment rules any motion to subpoena wit-
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nesses or documents.
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Following the disposition of that question, other mo-
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tions provided under the impeachment rules shall be in
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order.
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If the Senate agrees to allow either the House of Rep-
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resentatives or the President to subpoena witnesses, the
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 witnesses shall first be deposed and the Senate shall decide
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after deposition which witnesses shall testify, pursuant to
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the impeachment rules. No testimony shall be admissible
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Re: Ground Rules for Trump's Impeachment Trial
« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2020, 07:39:43 PM »
It is missing a vote for a motion to dismiss. I guess there are arguments both ways on that. Maxine Waters already tells us she is lined up and ready to impeach Trump again if he is cleared on these charges. I think the GOP just has to say they are not going to allow this nonsense in the Senate and let the House Democrats make asses out of themselves.

Someone also has to signal Collins, Alexander, Romney and the Trump haters that they will be opposed by the GOP in the next election.

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Re: Impeachment Hoax Thread
« Reply #29 on: January 21, 2020, 08:32:50 AM »
I just saw Chuckie Schumer whining about the impeachment process. I must admit it is enjoyable watching Chuckie pound sand.  :lol: :lol:
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