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Offline Sick Of Silence

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Re: Immigration
« Reply #15 on: March 14, 2019, 12:42:31 PM »
Debate tip: Never give your opponent options. By listing several options, you give them wiggle room, hence the locking of doors. In her case, a simple yes or no is all they get, in turn, exposing their hypocrisy because a no, "I don't lock my doors," would be a blatant lie.
This exposes the fact that she is lying when she claims we don't need to lock our borders with a barrier.

Wouldn't the barrier be a more precise comparison? A door is still a barrier. No lock? They can barricade the door. Same goes for celebrities with their gated communities and properties.

I hope you are not ignoring the fridge and bed comparison since illegals are ultimately using resources. They want others to receive benefits but are not willing to let them go onto their own fridge or stay in their own house. All part of the same arguments.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #16 on: March 14, 2019, 12:49:46 PM »
Wouldn't the barrier be a more precise comparison? A door is still a barrier. No lock? They can barricade the door. Same goes for celebrities with their gated communities and properties.

I hope you are not ignoring the fridge and bed comparison since illegals are ultimately using resources. They want others to receive benefits but are not willing to let them go onto their own fridge or stay in their own house. All part of the same arguments.
I suggest you reread my post, especially the opening.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #17 on: March 14, 2019, 01:46:53 PM »
"What changed?"   For me nothing changed,  there is / was no invasion, but there is the obvious issue of immigration.  Trump uses hyperbole to scare and divide rather than address the issue.  Note the quote from Hillary Clinton who recognized the issue rather propagandize it.  David Frum is a thoughtful writer and the piece covers the complexity of immigration.  Fascism or extreme nationalism are not places America wants today, it is why a simple wall is a wasteful and meaningless symbol.  Solutions are a bit tougher, let's hear yours.

First, what qualifies you to make such pronouncements such as there is "no invasion" and "A simple wall is wasteful and a meaningless symbol?"  What expertise do you have that surpasses the people with the genuine expertise on such matters including those who are tasked with Border security and enforcement who agree on the need for a wall?

A wall is not a "symbol" it is a security measure, perhaps the oldest and most effective known to man.

Hillary may have "recognied" the issue but what did she propose as a solution?...right...another reason why she isn't President...and never will be thank God.
 
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #18 on: March 14, 2019, 01:55:38 PM »
I suggest you reread my post, especially the opening.

I'm not giving them options; I'm giving them a one-two punch. Will they allow them into their house? Will they allow them to live there. That's s hard right, with a left jab on top of that.
Social Media are multi-national billion dollar corporations with foreign investors that are going unchecked with the power to effect our election process.

"Book burnings" have evolved into "de-plat forming". Its the same principles behind both: to eliminate accessible knowledge.

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Re: Immigration
« Reply #19 on: March 14, 2019, 05:49:48 PM »
I'm not giving them options; I'm giving them a one-two punch. Will they allow them into their house? Will they allow them to live there. That's s hard right, with a left jab on top of that.
Like I said, reread my post only this time very S l o w l y and let it sink in. This is one of the first rules of debate, being concise.
I've been doing this for decades, I know what I'mm talking about.
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Re: Immigration
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2019, 06:27:29 PM »
Real question is: "Do you have a front door?", "Do you have a fence or any type of barrier around any part of your property?", or "Are you willing to allow them access to your fridge, couch, and bed?".

How do people enter the house?
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