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The tidal wave of migrants fleeing the bloody chaos of the post-Obama Middle East has been hitting Mediterranean nations particularly hard. But Hungary has seen a sizable number of migrants from Syria and Afghanistan as well, experiencing what the Wall Street Journal describes as a doubling of last year's total migrant population in just the first six months of 2015.

Most of these people seek asylum in the European Union and pass through Hungary en route to more developed European nations.

Hungary's Prime Minister Viktor Orbán warned in a recent speech on the refugee issue that this massive migratory wave threatens the economy, stability, and the very identity of Europe.

"For us, Europe is at stake today; Europeans' way of life; European values; the survival or demise of European nations, or rather, their transformation beyond recognition," Orbán warned. "The question is not what sort of a Europe we Hungarians would like to live in but whether what we call Europe today will continue to exist. We would like Europe to continue to belong to Europeans."

He worried that the migration crisis could serve the interests of the international Left: "The Left has always looked upon nations, national identities with suspicion. They reckon that an escalation of immigration could terminally weaken, even eliminate the structure of nation states, and thus bring about the Left's unfulfilled historic goal."

Orbán referenced the obvious problems of caring for so many refugees and dealing with both terrorists and more conventional criminal elements who ride the wave into European societies. But even as he acknowledged the need to make allowances for legitimate asylum-seekers, he worried about the effect that huge numbers of even the most carefully-screened migrants would have upon the cultures and economies of Europe.

This got him labeled a racist xenophobe by the usual suspects, even as he supported increased aid to disintegrating Middle Eastern countries to stem the tide of refugees at its source. "Liberal party MLP said his comments linking people fleeing wars with terrorism and crime 'is nothing else but extremist and hate-mongering statements that every European democrat should reject.'" the WSJ reports.

Hungary has also been working on building a 13-foot fence along the Serbian border, where most refugees have been crossing. This went over about as well as every other proposal to cut down on illegal immigration by building a fence. "The focus should be on ensuring access to asylum, not impeding it," declared Council of Europe Commissioner for Human Rights Nils Muiznieks, completely missing the point of Hungary's concerns.

While all parties settle into the usual routine of calling each other racists and fifth-column subversives, we might pause to reflect that economic and social issues are a numbers game. A hundred refugees, from even the most distinctly foreign culture, can be absorbed without much difficulty, provided a serious immigration system carefully screens them for terrorist operatives and criminals.

A hundred thousand refugees, from even the most compatible foreign culture, will overwhelm screening procedures and cause enormous financial and cultural stress. Even a host of well-educated Canadian or British migrants with flawless English would cause problems if they arrived en masse in Rhode Island. There would still be problems with finding them all jobs and places to live. There would still be cultural assimilation issues.
-Breitbart
http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2015/07/26/hungarian-prime-minister-warns-mass-migration-threatens-european-survival/

Once again Victor Orban shows he is the leader Europe has been waiting for. There are so many that agree with Orban that votes leftist out of Union rules instead of political affiliation or agreement that when the times come to the point of no return there will be a new genocidal civil war in Europe. The ethnic makeup of the leftist parties are already started to be dominated by ethnic minorities representing illegal immigrants.

How much more before Greece or Italy break their budgets due to increase cost of illegal immigration imploding the welfare system? The Germans have already said they will not write off any more debts. Right wing parties are growing across Europe. I think Falangism will come back, and when it does it will hit hard. The conservative moderates, social democrats and libertarians will be wishing they had stopped immigration and refugee seekers when they had the chance and averted war/economical collapse. Hell I think even the Fabian Socialists will be regretting celebrating their victory now when the future can only end with conflict.

Quote from: Mountainshield on July 27, 2015, 06:34:23 AM

Once again Victor Orban shows he is the leader Europe has been waiting for. There are so many that agree with Orban that votes leftist out of Union rules instead of political affiliation or agreement that when the times come to the point of no return there will be a new genocidal civil war in Europe. The ethnic makeup of the leftist parties are already started to be dominated by ethnic minorities representing illegal immigrants.

How much more before Greece or Italy break their budgets due to increase cost of illegal immigration imploding the welfare system? The Germans have already said they will not write off any more debts. Right wing parties are growing across Europe. I think Falangism will come back, and when it does it will hit hard. The conservative moderates, social democrats and libertarians will be wishing they had stopped immigration and refugee seekers when they had the chance and averted war/economical collapse. Hell I think even the Fabian Socialists will be regretting celebrating their victory now when the future can only end with conflict.

We aren't the only country in this mess.  The problem could have been fixed, like he says.  Instead, look what is happening due to complacency. 

ISIS has displaced over 8 million in Iraq alone.

These people have become homeless and are refugees in their own country.  Health and food issues are now a very serious problem there.

All because of Obama.  I hope he's happy with his leftist decisions. 

Quote from: Dori on July 27, 2015, 12:37:27 PM
ISIS has displaced over 8 million in Iraq alone.

These people have become homeless and are refugees in their own country.  Health and food issues are now a very serious problem there.

All because of Obama.  I hope he's happy with his leftist decisions. 

Of course he's happy, the country is being over run with illegals and the state voting patterns will change. Change to BLUE is what the left wants, and I have seen that the flood of illegals to VA and FL will probably put those states in the blue column. The left doesn't care about the illegal children, that's just smoke and mirrors for the masses. The goal is to cement their power grab for generations to come, RINO's are just the same. Hell just look at our CONgresscritters now and then project 5 years down the road!

Quote from: Dori on July 27, 2015, 12:37:27 PM
ISIS has displaced over 8 million in Iraq alone.

These people have become homeless and are refugees in their own country.  Health and food issues are now a very serious problem there.

All because of Obama.  I hope he's happy with his leftist decisions.

He is happy with what he has done.  Its apparent. 

Quote from: Dori on July 27, 2015, 12:37:27 PM
ISIS has displaced over 8 million in Iraq alone.

These people have become homeless and are refugees in their own country.  Health and food issues are now a very serious problem there.

All because of Obama.  I hope he's happy with his leftist decisions.

I disagree.  There can be no doubt that Obomber is playing his part,but lets place the blame where it originated,right on the shoulders of Boy Jorge Bush and his handlers. NONE of these Muddle Eastern nations were a serious danger to anyone in the west until Boy Jorge,at the urging of his Wahhabbi Saud handlers invaded Iraq and hanged Saddam Hussein.

Quote from: sneakypete on July 29, 2015, 02:12:14 AM
I disagree.  There can be no doubt that Obomber is playing his part,but lets place the blame where it originated,right on the shoulders of Boy Jorge Bush and his handlers. NONE of these Muddle Eastern nations were a serious danger to anyone in the west until Boy Jorge,at the urging of his Wahhabbi Saud handlers invaded Iraq and hanged Saddam Hussein.

Step 1: Bush wins in Iraq and stabilize the country with the surge
Step 2: Obama ???
Step 3: Iraq is in chaos, blames Bush...

Going wildly off topic but this is not the first time you pinko's pull off this shit

Step 1: Richard Nixon Wins Vietnam War with Paris Peace Accords in 1973 as he let the military run the war instead of micromanaging like LBJ
Step 2: Democrat(Pinko's) sign the case Church amendment blocking support to South Vietnam
Step 3: South Vietnam falls without US assistance as North Vietnam is supported by USSR and China, pinko's says the war was always lost...

Quote from: Mountainshield on July 30, 2015, 05:49:19 AM
Step 1: Bush wins in Iraq and stabilize the country with the surge
Step 2: Obama ???
Step 3: Iraq is in chaos, blames Bush...

Going wildly off topic but this is not the first time you pinko's pull off this shit

Calling me a pinko is proof that calling you an idiot would be bragging on you. You just ain't bright enough to be an idiot.

Quote from: sneakypete on July 29, 2015, 02:12:14 AM
I disagree.  There can be no doubt that Obomber is playing his part,but lets place the blame where it originated,right on the shoulders of Boy Jorge Bush and his handlers. NONE of these Muddle Eastern nations were a serious danger to anyone in the west until Boy Jorge,at the urging of his Wahhabbi Saud handlers invaded Iraq and hanged Saddam Hussein.

You do realize we had a legal right to engage Iraq militarily right?

Quote from: The Boo Man... on July 30, 2015, 07:22:55 PM
You do realize we had a legal right to engage Iraq militarily right?

I'm confused. Does having a legal right morally justify invading a country,killing thousands of it's citizens, and hanging it's leader at the urging of yet another foreign nation?

Is it even justifiable in the political sense,other than war creates union jobs and helps Wall Street?

Not to mention the fact that WE (our own government) is the one that determines if we have that right or not,and if they do it you can bet your ass they will justify it.

Or does the legal right mean to you that the endless war in the Muddle East that we now  have is justified?

Quote from: sneakypete on August 01, 2015, 06:31:30 AM
I'm confused.

Yes. Yes you are.

QuoteDoes having a legal right morally justify invading a country

,

In this case yes.

Quotekilling thousands of it's citizens,

The blame for that is on the insurgents not the US military.

Quoteand hanging it's leader at the urging of yet another foreign nation?

We didn't hang him.

QuoteIs it even justifiable in the political sense,other than war creates union jobs and helps Wall Street?

Irrelevant.

QuoteNot to mention the fact that WE (our own government) is the one that determines if we have that right or not,and if they do it you can bet your ass they will justify it.

In this case that is false.

QuoteOr does the legal right mean to you that the endless war in the Muddle East that we now  have is justified?

Emotion hyperbole and strawmen oh my!

Quote from: The Boo Man... on August 01, 2015, 12:58:34 PM
Yes. Yes you are.

,

In this case yes.



The blame for that is on the insurgents not the US military.

We didn't hang him.

Irrelevant.

In this case that if false.

Emotion hyperbole and strawmen oh my!

Damn. That was good Boo.

Quote from: supsalemgr on August 01, 2015, 01:51:53 PM
Damn. That was good Boo.

Boo has not even had his after noon tea yet...

Quote from: Mountainshield on July 30, 2015, 05:49:19 AM
Step 1: Bush wins in Iraq and stabilize the country with the surge

Have you lost your freaking mind?

Or are we now living in some alternate universe were "stablilize" is a synonym for the word "anarchy"?

Quote from: sneakypete on August 01, 2015, 04:17:37 PM
Have you lost your freaking mind?

Or are we now living in some alternate universe were "stablilize" is a synonym for the word "anarchy"?

Anarchy is a bit strong. You seem to have a lot of estrogen in your system.