If you were in charge, what law(s) would you add, remove, or change?

Started by Sick Of Silence, March 03, 2019, 09:27:04 AM

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Sick Of Silence

Invading a person's personal space will be illegal. Protesting is one thing; getting in someone's face yelling or being aggressive will be illegal. People have the Constitutional First Amendment Right not to be aggressed during their right to address grievances.

Protesting will not, I repeat, not interfere with non-protestors daily lives. When I leave a DC building and can't leave the area because these fake outraged anti-war protestors (they were not protesting that during Obama years) are marching a path that prevents me from going north or south, that violates my Constitutional First Amendment Right to not be involved in your protest (Right to be Free From Speech Or Expression).
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

Possum

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 10, 2019, 07:41:14 PM
Mega Social Media companies absolutely should be regulated. They have to much power over liberty.

http://conservativepoliticalforum.com/political-discussion-and-debate/twitter-exec-is-questioned-about-'learn-to-code'-bannings/msg374125/#msg374125

That Tim guy just made my overall argument more straight forward.
Just a question, why, when it comes to breaking up "big" business, is it the liberals who wish to break it up? Aoc and pelosi are also calling for the same break ups of "mega media. Is it because smaller companies are easier to bribe with tax $? Personally, I would move for tax $'s to be withheld from private companies including "big" businesses.

Sick Of Silence

Quote from: s3779m on March 12, 2019, 05:26:55 AM
Just a question, why, when it comes to breaking up "big" business, is it the liberals who wish to break it up? Aoc and pelosi are also calling for the same break ups of "mega media. Is it because smaller companies are easier to bribe with tax $? Personally, I would move for tax $'s to be withheld from private companies including "big" businesses.

Agreeing with that Tim guys argument, if a Social Media company yields that much power, they need to be put in check. They are supposed to be an avenue for speaking your mind and should not be allowed to decide who's mind should be able to be spoken. They are not a private company in the normal sense. And, I do believe that Twitter is receiving American tax dollars in some way (and probably from other countries.

I don't know what the Liberal's game plan is (unless it is a distraction). Mine is focused on Social Media companies clearly being unfair, unjust, and quite frankly unlawful. I am not directly looking to break Twitter up.

And honestly, I don't like it when Comcast is my only cable company in town. There is no other choices for consumers (Dish is not a cable company). I want direct competition. That's why I support pirate radio (or at least non-corporate run radio).
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

taxed

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 12, 2019, 06:31:53 AM
Agreeing with that Tim guys argument, if a Social Media company yields that much power, they need to be put in check.
You put them in check by taking government out of the way and letting the free market humble them.

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They are supposed to be an avenue for speaking your mind and should not be allowed to decide who's mind should be able to be spoken.
Incorrect.  They are supposed to be for making money for the shareholders.

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They are not a private company in the normal sense. And, I do believe that Twitter is receiving American tax dollars in some way (and probably from other countries.
If they are receiving tax dollars, then yes, they can't toss people for political views.

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I don't know what the Liberal's game plan is (unless it is a distraction). Mine is focused on Social Media companies clearly being unfair, unjust, and quite frankly unlawful. I am not directly looking to break Twitter up.
I haven't heard you get into Operation Chokepoint yet.  This social media stuff is topical.  The rubber meets the road in the payment processing side of things.  If Twitter bans you, BFD. Go to Gab. Or Minds. Or any others that are sprouting up.  They are being held down from payment processors and preventing apps in the app stores.

Metaphorically speaking, you're more upset that conservatives aren't allowed to drive SUVs, but we're being banned from gas stations all together.

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Sick Of Silence

Quote from: taxed on March 12, 2019, 03:15:02 PM
You put them in check by taking government out of the way and letting the free market humble them.
Incorrect.  They are supposed to be for making money for the shareholders.
If they are receiving tax dollars, then yes, they can't toss people for political views.
I haven't heard you get into Operation Chokepoint yet.  This social media stuff is topical.  The rubber meets the road in the payment processing side of things.  If Twitter bans you, BFD. Go to Gab. Or Minds. Or any others that are sprouting up.  They are being held down from payment processors and preventing apps in the app stores.

Metaphorically speaking, you're more upset that conservatives aren't allowed to drive SUVs, but we're being banned from gas stations all together.

Aren't they stomping on our Constitution Right to live by cutting of our finances due to political reasons?

And, I due focus of First Amendment because it is our Right to exist, regardless of what we say in public. I will never be a Political pundant and be online and on TV shows. All I can due is do the perverbial "#NPC" Tweet at them as a form of protest. And, if we can't even say anything about it, we are truly broke.

They are trying to treat us as second class citizens which is Unconstitutional.

But, like I said, I agree with Tim on that they have too much power. They are not private companies due to the fact of what they do for a living; they are a form of utility.

And, since we Conservatives are constantly being stomped on by all things Liberal, I have no problem returning the favor.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

taxed

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 12, 2019, 03:39:05 PM
Aren't they stomping on our Constitution Right to live by cutting of our finances due to political reasons?

And, I due focus of First Amendment because it is our Right to exist, regardless of what we say in public. I will never be a Political pundant and be online and on TV shows. All I can due is do the perverbial "#NPC" Tweet at them as a form of protest. And, if we can't even say anything about it, we are truly broke.

They are trying to treat us as second class citizens which is Unconstitutional.

But, like I said, I agree with Tim on that they have too much power. They are not private companies due to the fact of what they do for a living; they are a form of utility.

And, since we Conservatives are constantly being stomped on by all things Liberal, I have no problem returning the favor.

I think you and I have different priorities of urgency.  Cutting off our access to bank accounts and the ability to collect money from ventures is WAY closer to the China social score system and killing the First Amendment than Twitter banning me.  I'm fucked with no banking.  If Twitter bans me, I just go to Gab or wherever.

Also, if you're concern is Twitter, allowing the apps into the app stores and allowing them to conduct commerce would kill Twitter -- or at least force them to fix their issues.  If you think Twitter is just too big, then ask MySpace how things are going.  Who killed MySpace? Facebook, with the help of government.

Pretend Solar and I owned all the web browsers.  If CPF banned you, but prevented other forums you'd go to from loading in browsers, that seems like a bigger issue than being banned.  Parallel this metaphorically to social media.

Twitter will be forced to self-correct if its competitors were allowed in app stores, and allowed to freely engage in commerce.
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Sick Of Silence

Quote from: taxed on March 12, 2019, 05:07:48 PM
I think you and I have different priorities of urgency.  Cutting off our access to bank accounts and the ability to collect money from ventures is WAY closer to the China social score system and killing the First Amendment than Twitter banning me.  I'm fucked with no banking.  If Twitter bans me, I just go to Gab or wherever.

Also, if you're concern is Twitter, allowing the apps into the app stores and allowing them to conduct commerce would kill Twitter -- or at least force them to fix their issues.  If you think Twitter is just too big, then ask MySpace how things are going.  Who killed MySpace? Facebook, with the help of government.

Pretend Solar and I owned all the web browsers.  If CPF banned you, but prevented other forums you'd go to from loading in browsers, that seems like a bigger issue than being banned.  Parallel this metaphorically to social media.

Twitter will be forced to self-correct if its competitors were allowed in app stores, and allowed to freely engage in commerce.

I fully understand that they are going after people's actual lives.

I don't care about any Social Media. Like I said, if it were the other way round, you know Liberals would do the same thing. I have no problem putting any Social Media's feet to the fire. I don't use Social Media. I spend too much time in the internet as is. We can vote no with our wallets or choices only for so long. At some point, we will have no real choices left. We have to fight back.

I asked you what your opinion on it being a Constitutional matter on going after finances.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

taxed

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 12, 2019, 10:13:08 PM
I fully understand that they are going after people's actual lives.

I don't care about any Social Media. Like I said, if it were the other way round, you know Liberals would do the same thing. I have no problem putting any Social Media's feet to the fire. I don't use Social Media. I spend too much time in the internet as is. We can vote no with our wallets or choices only for so long. At some point, we will have no real choices left. We have to fight back.

I asked you what your opinion on it being a Constitutional matter on going after finances.

We need money, that the government prints and forces us to use, to eat, pay bills, etc.  We also need banks to keep that money.  It's part of survival.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

Sick Of Silence

Quote from: taxed on March 12, 2019, 11:58:07 PM
We need money, that the government prints and forces us to use, to eat, pay bills, etc.  We also need banks to keep that money.  It's part of survival.

Is it unConstitutional to go after a person's finances for political motives?
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

T Hunt

Quote from: mdgiles on March 09, 2019, 12:18:39 PM
While serving my term as the First Consul of the United States:

(1)Repeal the 16th Amendment. Congress needs to learn what and what isn't necessary to the running of the country. Stop buying stuff, our descendants will have to pay for.

(2)Repeal the 17th Amendment. Senators should be beholden to the State legislatures that elect them, NOT the national party. No out of state money in these elections either.

(3)Repeal the 20th Amendment. Unless that female has served in the armed forces of the United States
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(4)Repeal the 26th Amendment. Raise the voting age to 25, unless you have served in the armed forces of the US. Then your age to vote started the day you enter the military.

(5)Term Limits. 3 two year terms for Reps. 1 six year term for Sen. 1 ten year term for the USSC, 1 six year term for the POTUS.

(6)NO Civil Service. Every Bureaucrat in the US government serves at the pleasure of the POTUS. Bring back the Spoils System.

(7)A Federal Election Bureau, staffed by the same number of members from each state. Their job will be to check voting roles in any state chosen by random, and not their own state. To make sure that only citizens are voting. To make sure that elections are overseen to counter fraud.

(8)Marriage and Abortion returned to each individual state. No California rules being forced on the people of Utah.

(9)All US citizens who are not have not committed a felony or who having committed a felon, have served their full sentence and have a spotless record in the following ten years, shall be allowed to carry a weapon on their person or keep one in their homes.

(10)The business of the Federal government shall be restricted to the national defense, foreign diplomacy, treasury, internal jurisprudence and interior government properties (national parks, forests, Corps of Engineers, Coast Guard, etc.).

(11)The US military shall hold live fire exercises along unwalled sections of the border.

(12)Outlaw Protected Classes

(13)Allow no immigrants into the United States whose religions or customs don't allow them to fully embrace, and assimilate into, the laws and customs of the United States.

Please eleaborate on the repeal of the 20th amendment. I dont understand why you want to repeal that one.
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Sick Of Silence

Also, people need to understand this thread is more of a personal rant. If somebody feels that a law or policy should be added or removed, then so be it. Some people are taking this thread a little to seriously. We (individually) will never be in charge so bickering of details is stupid. There is a difference between asking about our opinions and arguing over something that will never happen.

This thread was inspired from a radio program's on-air personality ranting about this type of thing (for comedic/entertainment purposes). Some of it made general sense/some of it was bad. He even joked about making his own money after him. That is what this thread is. For us nobodies to rant on what we would do (good or bad). We have our reasons for our stance: deal with it.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

taxed

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 13, 2019, 10:14:53 AM
Also, people need to understand this thread is more of a personal rant. If somebody feels that a law or policy should be added or removed, then so be it. Some people are taking this thread a little to seriously. We (individually) will never be in charge so bickering of details is stupid. There is a difference between asking about our opinions and arguing over something that will never happen.

This thread was inspired from a radio program's on-air personality ranting about this type of thing (for comedic/entertainment purposes). Some of it made general sense/some of it was bad. He even joked about making his own money after him. That is what this thread is. For us nobodies to rant on what we would do (good or bad). We have our reasons for our stance: deal with it.

It's a great topic and spawns some good discussion.
#PureBlood #TrumpWon

Sick Of Silence

Quote from: taxed on March 15, 2019, 09:13:43 PM
It's a great topic and spawns some good discussion.

It got crazy over the over grilling of opinions. If the person has a strong opinion about something, it's important enough for them.
With all these lawyers with cameras on the street i'm shocked we have so much crime in the world.

There is constitutional law and there is law and order. This challenge to law and order is always the start to loosing our constitutional rights.

Frauditors are a waste of life.

Possum

Quote from: Sick Of Silence on March 15, 2019, 10:42:56 PM
It got crazy over the over grilling of opinions. If the person has a strong opinion about something, it's important enough for them.
Unfortunately, when those laws are passed over the grilling of opinions,  all of us now have to obey them, not just the ones who had a beef in the first place. Could be why some of the items were taken seriously.

Solar

Quote from: s3779m on March 16, 2019, 03:52:31 AM
Unfortunately, when those laws are passed over the grilling of opinions,  all of us now have to obey them, not just the ones who had a beef in the first place. Could be why some of the items were taken seriously.
That's the thing, most of us want fewer laws, smaller govt, to the point of near nonexistence. The Founders knew this might happen...
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