Quote from: Harry on October 20, 2016, 03:44:06 PM
If you voted Trump, in your scenario, he would have 11 votes, and would win.

I am only one vote Harry not 11.   I will not vote for Trump or the Bitch.

Quote from: Harry on October 20, 2016, 02:51:38 PM
I said I'm voting for Trump. You, however, seem to favor Hillary.

Come on Harry, when did you start enabling bad behavior by the leftists in the GOP?
Bush, Dole, McCain, Mitten, now a bonafide NY Lib with a stick on tattooed (R) next to his name. Why are you still enabling the leftists Hell bent on giving the Dims everything and more than they ask for?

I bet you even bought the lie that Trump will appoint a Conservative to SCOTUS, even after the RNC killed off Cruz, a bonafide Conservative.
Yeah, the GOP Establishment is going to help Trump appoint a conservative to the court.
Have you even thought this through yet, or are you running solely on fear? You do know, that's an emotion, right?

Quote from: Solar on October 20, 2016, 04:15:20 PM

Come on Harry, when did you start enabling bad behavior by the leftists in the GOP?
Bush, Dole, McCain, Mitten, now a bonafide NY Lib with a stick on tattooed (R) next to his name. Why are you still enabling the leftists Hell bent on giving the Dims everything and more than they ask for?

I bet you even bought the lie that Trump will appoint a Conservative to SCOTUS, even after the RNC killed off Cruz, a bonafide Conservative.
Yeah, the GOP Establishment is going to help Trump appoint a conservative to the court.
Have you even thought this through yet, or are you running solely on fear? You do know, that's an emotion, right?

Good to see ya, Solar. When did you start voting dim by proxy?

Quote from: Harry on October 20, 2016, 02:35:11 PM
No, I'm voting for Trump. You, by not voting, or doing a stupid write in that has no chance, are voting for Hillary.

Got it assbackwards. All of those trump vote during the primaries were the votes for hillary. We could have had Cruz and then there would not be this discussion. So for all the trumpsters out there, hope ya'll are still proud of your votes for the liberal. By the way, this should never be forgotten https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/05/08/trump-i-have-principles-dont-need-conservatives-to-support-me/ 

Quote from: s3779m on October 20, 2016, 04:47:22 PM
Got it assbackwards. All of those trump vote during the primaries were the votes for hillary. We could have had Cruz and then there would not be this discussion. So for all the trumpsters out there, hope ya'll are still proud of your votes for the liberal. By the way, this should never be forgotten https://pjmedia.com/trending/2016/05/08/trump-i-have-principles-dont-need-conservatives-to-support-me/

I think you will find Harry was for Ted Cruz until all the crossover voters came in to play and the DNC.  I would say he is just voting for the lesser of the two evils, we all have done that in the past.   But I could be wrong. 

Quote from: Harry on October 20, 2016, 04:26:02 PM
Good to see ya, Solar. When did you start voting dim by proxy?

Long time no see...
But I'm not the one supporting liberals. You are, as well as the NY Lib, Trump.

Quote from: Solar on October 20, 2016, 06:46:58 PM
Long time no see...
But I'm not the one supporting liberals. You are, as well as the NY Lib, Trump.

I'd rather Trump, who pledges to appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court win than Hillary, who pledges no such thing,win.

Quote from: Harry on October 21, 2016, 03:45:42 AM
I'd rather Trump, who pledges to appoint conservatives to the Supreme Court win than Hillary, who pledges no such thing,win.

First off, we lost the SCOTUS years ago. But I'll entertain your claim.

Trump, who stated his leftist wacko sister judge would make a fine SCOTUS appointee and a willing GOP mixed in is recipe for disaster.
Seriously, Trump stated that everything he says is only a suggestion, flip flops on every campaign promise ever made, said he doesn't need Conservative support to win, and you think he'll suddenly do the Right thing?

But then, I don't even know why I bother, Trump is not in it to win, never was. His job was to get Cliton elected and it's working, so again, why should I play in this scam that was designed to keep a true Conservative out of the WH?
And you think the Establishment is going to help appoint a Conservative judge?
No, from here on out, the GOP is the enemy and needs to be killed off so we can steal the party for ourselves, so I will not be a pawn in their war against Conservatives.

Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2016, 04:20:42 AM
First off, we lost the SCOTUS years ago. But I'll entertain your claim.

Trump, who stated his leftist wacko sister judge would make a fine SCOTUS appointee and a willing GOP mixed in is recipe for disaster.
Seriously, Trump stated that everything he says is only a suggestion, flip flops on every campaign promise ever made, said he doesn't need Conservative support to win, and you think he'll suddenly do the Right thing?

But then, I don't even know why I bother, Trump is not in it to win, never was. His job was to get Cliton elected and it's working, so again, why should I play in this scam that was designed to keep a true Conservative out of the WH?
And you think the Establishment is going to help appoint a Conservative judge?
No, from here on out, the GOP is the enemy and needs to be killed off so we can steal the party for ourselves, so I will not be a pawn in their war against Conservatives.

Entertain? Seriously? You'll entertain my view?

Quote from: Harry on October 20, 2016, 01:45:05 PM
I didn't vote for Romney. I got four more years of Obama. Do you want four years of Hillary?

I'm a Constitutional Conservative why in the friggin world would I vote for a liberal democrat...?

Give me one reason why.

Quote from: Bronx on October 21, 2016, 04:52:22 AM
I'm a Constitutional Conservative why in the friggin world would I vote for a liberal democrat...?

Give me one reason why.

Hillary comes to mind... immediately.

Quote from: Dubinsky on October 20, 2016, 02:17:24 PM
Here's my two cents.  I was clearly for Cruz and only Cruz. Regrettably it didn't happen. Initially I planned on writing in Cruz.  Then I thought well, if I don't do that, I'll just vote the rest of the ballot and leave it at that. No more going against my principles.

I'm wondering now if and that's a very "bigly" if, the race tightens to say a point or two on the eve of the election does it make sense to vote for Trump while holding my nose once again?   Why?  For no other reason than if he wins he may be easier to deal with than Hillary.  Hillary will just be more of Obama. Trump no doubt is an incompetent Democrat buffoon at heart.  A tool to help Hillary. As we see however he can easily be manipulated.  Now some will say that may be true but manipulated to whose side?  Hillary will never embrace anything but a progressive liberal agenda and like Obama will not compromise and no doubt will use Executive Orders at will. 

So with that dilemma in mind.  Does one hold their nose one more time.  Let Trump be Trump and then rebuild with someone in charge who may or may not do worse than Hillary.

I know what I said is a bit rambling but I think everyone will get what I'm trying to say.

In a sense instead of looking at it as selling out instead view it as using a tool like Trump to hold off the progressives until a game plan for the future is put together that is viable.  Not a lesser of two evils as they are both evil in their own ways.

The thought of voting for Trump for one second sincerely sickens me. I know many will say including myself that there is no difference between them but there is.   The difference is the unknown.  There is no unknown as to Hillary.  The unknown with Trump could be less worse than the worst of Hillary?

I just don't know and luckily we still have 19 days to mull it over.  It's pathetic that instead of voting on issues and candidates we have to vote on what do we think the unknown is and whose unknown is more damaging. 

No matter what, one of these despicable people is going to win. 

I hope that rambling mess makes some sense.  Your thoughts?

There does seem to be a trend of people deciding to vote for Trump. My personal view is it is the result of people seeing how corrupt Hillary and the Clinton campaign is.  Trump has done nothing to convert these people. It is all about the negatives of Hillary.

Quote from: supsalemgr on October 21, 2016, 05:51:22 AM
There does seem to be a trend of people deciding to vote for Trump. My personal view is it is the result of people seeing how corrupt Hillary and the Clinton campaign is.  Trump has done nothing to convert these people. It is all about the negatives of Hillary.

It is all about Hillary. For years now, I've woken to see Obama on my TV screen. I'm tired of that. Do you want to wake every morning to Hillary?

Quote from: Harry on October 21, 2016, 04:37:02 AM
Entertain? Seriously? You'll entertain my view?

Is this what passes for rebuttal now days?
I gave you valid reasons as to why you are only playing the pawn in the phony two party system.
Look at the last two Qe Infinity Omnibus Bills, where the GOP gave the Marxist more than he asked for, the party that calls it's base the enemy, and you're going to assume that the GOP and Trump are going to do what's right for the nation, why?

There is but one party today, the leftist party. Fuck the GOP and Trump! Voting for their choice only reinforces their belief that we're all a bunch of stupid sheep.
I'm still writing in Cruz.

Quote from: Solar on October 21, 2016, 06:00:57 AM
Is this what passes for rebuttal now days?
I gave you valid reasons as to why you are only playing the pawn in the phony two party system.
Look at the last two Qe Infinity Omnibus Bills, where the GOP gave the Marxist more than he asked for, the party that calls it's base the enemy, and you're going to assume that the GOP and Trump are going to do what's right for the nation, why?

There is but one party today, the leftist party. Fuck the GOP and Trump! Voting for their choice only reinforces their belief that we're all a bunch of stupid sheep.
I'm still writing in Cruz.

Solar, I respect you. I respect your views. I think you're wrong. I think you're using a position of power, owning a forum, to push people into making a tragic decision. We either get Hillary or Trump. There is no other possibility. Which do you prefer?

Why did you delete my post. Put it back, or I will delete my membership here.