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Title: I Quit!
Post by: VegasGeorge on November 09, 2012, 06:44:11 AM
This election tears it for me.  I am no longer interested in American politics. If the majority of American voters are that stupid, then I have no place among them.  If someone actually wants to stop these communists, name them for what they are, and take decisive action against them, then I might be willing to participate.  But I'm not throwing any more time, money, and grief down the republican rat hole.  As far as I'm concerned, its the Socialist States of American, and its every man for himself.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
I'm not ever giving up, it's not who I am, though I have been living the "every man for himself" lifestyle for more than 20 years.
I had a pretty good idea we were heading this direction, just not as fact as it happened.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 06:53:17 AM
I'm not ever giving up, it's not who I am, though I have been living the "every man for himself" lifestyle for more than 20 years.
I had a pretty good idea we were heading this direction, just not as fact as it happened.

What ever happened to that Romney in a landslide, Solar?



just a tad of salt in the wound
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solars Toy on November 09, 2012, 07:25:53 AM
Quote from: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
What ever happened to that Romney in a landslide, Solar?



just a tad of salt in the wound

Shooter -  It should have been and I for one am shocked that it wasn't.  Although not my first choice it was better than the other.   Now all I can do is stand back and watch.  Toy  (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsmileys.on-my-web.com%2Frepository%2FConfused%2Fconfused-8.gif&hash=5aeeccbe6bad3ddd3e552cb04edc47be92b4535b)
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:32:01 AM
Quote from: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
What ever happened to that Romney in a landslide, Solar?



just a tad of salt in the wound
Good question, you tell me why he lost, you voted for him too.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:37:08 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:32:01 AM
Good question, you tell me why he lost, you voted for him too.

According to Haley Barbour, it's Superstorm Sandy's fault.  Nate Silver must have known that storm was coming and factored it into his analysis, too. 
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:50:47 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:37:08 AM
According to Haley Barbour, it's Superstorm Sandy's fault.  Nate Silver must have known that storm was coming and factored it into his analysis, too.
They are unwilling to accept responsibility for their failure, but the constituency knows the truth.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: mdgiles on November 09, 2012, 08:23:25 AM
Quote from: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
What ever happened to that Romney in a landslide, Solar?



just a tad of salt in the wound
As rational people, with faith in the collective wisdom of our fellow Americans; we assumed that after witnessing the failures and incompetence of this administration, they would want it to continue. Obviously our faith was misplaced. Romney was right about that 47% - except he didn't make the percentage high enough. There are people out there who believe that the government will rescue them from any misfortune.

In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, there was a picture and interview of a black man sitting in the Super Dome. Next to him was someone who had passed away, That person was lying in a lawn chair covered up in a blanket. The black man was sitting their complaining about how "somebody needed to come and do something about that poor man's corpse". I was enraged. You mean he and a few of his friends couldn't have gotten together and carried that poor mans's body down to one of the freezers or at least out into the corridor? But no, it was "somebody else's" job to "take care of it".  Most of the people who stayed behind, to be caught in the flooding, were on some kind of public assistance; and they had sunk so far into dependence, that the very idea of doing things on their own was foreign to them. I had assumed that this attitude was particular to people in that man's situation - but it isn't.

This election showed that perhaps the majority of the country has dropped into that kind of apathy - from the college graduate waiting for the government to pay off their loans, to the working people who have become used to a unemployment check and food stamps. I believe that too many people have come to believe - or perhaps don't care - that the government has some other source of income besides their fellow productive citizens. Eventually when you keep robbing Peter to pay Paul, Peter will realize that unless he fights back, Paul will take everything.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: keyboarder on November 09, 2012, 10:11:23 AM
It does get any clearer than that last post.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 10:46:43 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2012, 07:32:01 AM
Good question, you tell me why he lost, you voted for him too.

First, and realize this is strictly my opinion. It may be shared by some, but not all.

Romney was a piss poor conservative candidate, nay, actually a liberal ( actually piss poor all the way across the board; rich, well spoken, ( mostly, except when he did not look like a deer in the headlights ) decent looking, white, and an inability to relate ( perceived or otherwise ) with the lower class folks. I came within a hair of not voting for him ( it would have made no difference in Texas ) About the only thing he had going for him was 'he ain't no Obama'. That, in many peoples minds was a poor reason to vote for him.

Still, he had a shot until the convention when his machinery, Boehner, Sununu, and the ass hole Ginsberg, changed the rules in the middle of the stream, effectively screwing not only the Liberty Coalition, but the Tea Party in years to come. This after the shenanigans in Nevada and the NE state. Instead of reaching out to these folks and attempting to gain their support, even a small portion would have made a difference, they fokked them royally. Many of those fokkees ( and I was tempted ) said to hell with him and his RNC dipshits, and either voted third party, just voted for everything but President, or stayed home entirely. What rankles the most, is the RNC and the Anyone But Obama Crowd of Misfits are laying the blame everywhere but where it belongs. They are pulling an Obama.

Many figured they was little difference between Obama and Obama Lite, so why settle for less.

These RNCers seem to always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They wander along in their reverie until the handwriting on the wall does everything but reach out and kick their misbegotten asses. Think back to the summer of '06. The PUBS had had the world by the tail for six years- the Presidency, the House, the Senate, and they squandered the hell out of their opportunities. About July, their campaign for that November became, oh woe, oh woe, please, we's sorry don't kick us out on our asses, NANCY PELOSI will become Speaker. No shit! What kind of campaign is that?

All the bastards had to do for six years was balance the budget, reduce the debt, stay the fokk home, keep their noses clean and stay in power for years to come. (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg689%2F5814%2Fstupidpeople.gif&hash=5ac7f3a6c00b84cf6a540995e6504d91f3912184)
How did that work out?
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: rocca on November 09, 2012, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
What ever happened to that Romney in a landslide, Solar?

This article might explain the low turnout. Although one can't really know what could have happened had Project Orca worked as planned.

QuoteAs Republicans try to explain their Election Day losses in terms of policy, tactics, and strategy, one factor is emerging as the essential difference between the Obama and Romney campaigns on November 6: the absolute failure of Romney's get-out-the-vote effort, which underperformed even John McCain's lackluster 2008 turnout. One culprit appears to be "Orca," the Romney's massive technology effort, which failed completely.
...
Romney volunteers in Virginia confirmed that the campaign had relied entirely on Project Orca to turn out the vote in key areas such as Roanoke, where Romney and Ryan had made appearances. Volunteers who had driven to Virginia from safely-Republican Tennessee were shocked at the disorganization they encountered.
While the Romney campaign waited for Orca to function as planned, the Obama campaign had placed signs outside every one of the city's thirty-three polling places, and was fully staffed with two volunteers outside each polling place, and a strike list volunteer inside, all day long from 6 a.m. to 7 p.m. The best that the short-handed Tennessee volunteers could manage was 40% coverage of polling places; the local GOP, they said, had relied entirely on the campaign's centralized Orca system in Boston to turn out the local vote.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/08/Orca-How-the-Romney-Campaign-Suppressed-Its-Own-Vote (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2012/11/08/Orca-How-the-Romney-Campaign-Suppressed-Its-Own-Vote)
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: jksr1 on November 09, 2012, 11:45:37 AM
Quote from: VegasGeorge on November 09, 2012, 06:44:11 AM
This election tears it for me.  I am no longer interested in American politics.   If someone actually wants to stop these communists, name them for what they are, and take decisive action against them, then I might be willing to participate.  But I'm not throwing any more time, money, and grief down the republican rat hole.  As far as I'm concerned, its the Socialist States of American, and its every man for himself.
If the majority of American voters are that stupid, then I have no place among them.                    [ you should have said that when Bush was reeleted.] just saying.                                                       
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: mdgiles on November 09, 2012, 11:55:37 AM
Quote from: jksr1 on November 09, 2012, 11:45:37 AM
If the majority of American voters are that stupid, then I have no place among them.                    [ you should have said that when Bush was reeleted.] just saying.                                                     
Bush had his failings (boy did he have those), but did you ever think for one minute that he didn't have this countries best interests at heart?
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: jksr1 on November 09, 2012, 12:13:43 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on November 09, 2012, 11:55:37 AM
Bush had his failings (boy did he have those), but did you ever think for one minute that he didn't have this countries best interests at heart?
TRUE ENOUGH..
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 09, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Quote from: VegasGeorge on November 09, 2012, 06:44:11 AM
This election tears it for me.  I am no longer interested in American politics. If the majority of American voters are that stupid, then I have no place among them.  If someone actually wants to stop these communists, name them for what they are, and take decisive action against them, then I might be willing to participate.  But I'm not throwing any more time, money, and grief down the republican rat hole.  As far as I'm concerned, its the Socialist States of American, and its every man for himself.

Then they win.

We are an uninformed electorate, and a Republican party no longer represents the Conservative belief system. We will be at a major disadvantage until two things happen. 1) we replace the career leeches with and second the system collapses so this that believe in these policies see first hand that they don't.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: mdgiles on November 09, 2012, 01:29:02 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 09, 2012, 12:39:30 PM
Then they win.

We are an uninformed electorate, and a Republican party no longer represents the Conservative belief system. We will be at a major disadvantage until two things happen. 1) we replace the career leeches with and second the system collapses so this that believe in these policies see first hand that they don't.
Look at Greece. The leeches continue to demand that some how, some where, in some way, the money be found to maintain their lifestyles. Greeks who retire at 58 expect Germans to push off their retirement until 68, in order to support them - and they riot if anyone tells them any different. This behavior is aided and abetted by a political class that believes their staying in power is the most important goal possible. That's just around the corner here. The problem is this country is armed to the teeth, and a good half of the population doesn't think of the other half as countrymen any longer.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: BILLY Defiant on November 09, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
If you want to roll over and let them further their progressive Marxism then you to are part of the problem.

We may have lost nationally....but you have to concentrate on locally, remember, the country is still divided down the middle and there are plenty of Red states with GOP Governors and Reps.

Billy
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 02:17:25 PM
Quote from: mdgiles on November 09, 2012, 11:55:37 AM
Bush had his failings (boy did he have those), but did you ever think for one minute that he didn't have this countries best interests at heart?

Wish we had a thnks button. Totally agree. None of us liked everything about Bush and he was the START of these problems, but he wasn't EVIL.  Like I said, the Libtard HATES President Bush, but they love the guy who was Bush on steroids.  They really do have a mental disorder.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Bronx on November 09, 2012, 02:33:10 PM
Bottom line Patriot or loyalist. A Patriot will fight on. Keep the fight in you Patriot.

TEA!
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
Quote from: Yawn on November 09, 2012, 02:17:25 PM
Wish we had a thnks button. Totally agree. None of us liked everything about Bush and he was the START of these problems, but he wasn't EVIL.  Like I said, the Libtard HATES President Bush, but they love the guy who was Bush on steroids.  They really do have a mental disorder.

The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 09, 2012, 08:29:23 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.
Okay. He is just stupid then.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Rockntractor on November 09, 2012, 09:06:15 PM
Quote from: VegasGeorge on November 09, 2012, 06:44:11 AM
This election tears it for me.  I am no longer interested in American politics. If the majority of American voters are that stupid, then I have no place among them.  If someone actually wants to stop these communists, name them for what they are, and take decisive action against them, then I might be willing to participate.  But I'm not throwing any more time, money, and grief down the republican rat hole.  As far as I'm concerned, its the Socialist States of American, and its every man for himself.
I never thought I would be saying this but I am just about where you are now, I think the Tea Party should become an actual political party, I think we are at the point where we have nothing to lose.
The game ended 11-6-2012
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2012, 04:47:12 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer isn't out to destroy this country.
FIFY
Since when is killing a private industry considered not destructive, or forcing the people of this Nation to purchase a product, or forcing higher prices across the board on to the people of a country seen as productive?

Are you really so blinded by your bias that you can't see the obvious destruction?
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: kramarat on November 10, 2012, 05:06:24 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2012, 04:47:12 AM
FIFY
Since when is killing a private industry considered not destructive, or forcing the people of this Nation to purchase a product, or forcing higher prices across the board on to the people of a country seen as productive?

Are you really so blinded by your bias that you can't see the obvious destruction?

It's not just Obama. This has been building for years. Obama is just moving a lot faster. Overall, I'd say that our fiscal disaster belongs to the democrats. Facts just don't lie.


http://cnsnews.com/node/62793 (http://cnsnews.com/node/62793)
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: jksr1 on November 10, 2012, 05:32:35 AM
Quote from: Rockntractor on November 09, 2012, 09:06:15 PM
I never thought I would be saying this but I am just about where you are now, I think the Tea Party should become an actual political party, I think we are at the point where we have nothing to lose.
The game ended 11-6-2012
Rock, The T.P wants to make the retirement age 72 that my friend can never be.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2012, 05:43:56 AM
Quote from: jksr1 on November 10, 2012, 05:32:35 AM
Rock, The T.P wants to make the retirement age 72 that my friend can never be.
Prove that.
As a member, that point has never been discussed, though it's feasible considering people live much longer now, but what we talk about is making SS an option, or a private entity and yanking that money out of Govt control.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: kramarat on November 10, 2012, 06:08:10 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2012, 05:43:56 AM
Prove that.
As a member, that point has never been discussed, though it's feasible considering people live much longer now, but what we talk about is making SS an option, or a private entity and yanking that money out of Govt control.

SS is for the losers that still work in the private sector. Anyone that wants a generous pension plan and early retirement should go to work for government. It's an awesome plan, and it's funded by the taxpayers.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-20-pensions-cover_x.htm (http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2007-02-20-pensions-cover_x.htm)
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Silver Cougar on November 10, 2012, 10:34:40 AM
Quote from: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 07:12:31 AM
What ever happened to that Romney in a landslide, Solar?

Fraud..........and you know it!  Too many things happening with the Election.....Machines voting for Obama when the Romney butten was pressed.---told by several news channels, according to other people and I saw it on Fox News

Paper ballots being filled out by some ballot workers-------Fox News & others

Poll people knowingly letting many Illegals vote.....who were caught and nothing could be done about deleting their votes........by News channels and Fox News




just a tad of salt in the wound

We knew this would happen, so not really a surprise.....so this salt didn't burn....we expected it!
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: keyboarder on November 10, 2012, 11:37:14 AM
Fraud-period.  How long could they stall and keep SC from using the new voting law?  As long as it took.  They knew what to do and took their time.  I do have a problem with Nikki Haley coming out and saying that this was a victory for us.  Where was the victory when we didn't have to show ID to vote this time?  It is not like we sprung this issue on them, it was a long time cussed/discussed.  This just causes so many more problems when you think of how divided we are already.  This kind of issue can start riots!
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: mdgiles on November 10, 2012, 11:45:53 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.
He's either evil or incompetent. As Napoleon said: "Never ascribe to malice that which can adequately be explained by incompetence". So which is it, malice or incompetence?
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
Quote from: Shooterman on November 09, 2012, 10:46:43 AM
First, and realize this is strictly my opinion. It may be shared by some, but not all.

Romney was a piss poor conservative candidate, nay, actually a liberal ( actually piss poor all the way across the board; rich, well spoken, ( mostly, except when he did not look like a deer in the headlights ) decent looking, white, and an inability to relate ( perceived or otherwise ) with the lower class folks. I came within a hair of not voting for him ( it would have made no difference in Texas ) About the only thing he had going for him was 'he ain't no Obama'. That, in many peoples minds was a poor reason to vote for him.

Still, he had a shot until the convention when his machinery, Boehner, Sununu, and the ass hole Ginsberg, changed the rules in the middle of the stream, effectively screwing not only the Liberty Coalition, but the Tea Party in years to come. This after the shenanigans in Nevada and the NE state. Instead of reaching out to these folks and attempting to gain their support, even a small portion would have made a difference, they fokked them royally. Many of those fokkees ( and I was tempted ) said to hell with him and his RNC dipshits, and either voted third party, just voted for everything but President, or stayed home entirely. What rankles the most, is the RNC and the Anyone But Obama Crowd of Misfits are laying the blame everywhere but where it belongs. They are pulling an Obama.

Many figured they was little difference between Obama and Obama Lite, so why settle for less.

These RNCers seem to always manage to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. They wander along in their reverie until the handwriting on the wall does everything but reach out and kick their misbegotten asses. Think back to the summer of '06. The PUBS had had the world by the tail for six years- the Presidency, the House, the Senate, and they squandered the hell out of their opportunities. About July, their campaign for that November became, oh woe, oh woe, please, we's sorry don't kick us out on our asses, NANCY PELOSI will become Speaker. No shit! What kind of campaign is that?

All the bastards had to do for six years was balance the budget, reduce the debt, stay the fokk home, keep their noses clean and stay in power for years to come. (https://conservativepoliticalforum.com/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.us%2Fa%2Fimg689%2F5814%2Fstupidpeople.gif&hash=5ac7f3a6c00b84cf6a540995e6504d91f3912184)
How did that work out?
You said nothing new, we've been saying this for sometime now.
We all voted for him and nothing changed, whether it was fraud or incompetence, the Marxist is still there.

The real question is how do we fix it?

I suggest we do all we can come mid term and boot these RINO and take back the party, there is no other way outside of another party, but we know what that does.

Outside of a revolution, were pretty much screwed at this point.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: PeterR on November 10, 2012, 05:14:13 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2012, 12:58:37 PM
You said nothing new, we've been saying this for sometime now.
We all voted for him and nothing changed, whether it was fraud or incompetence, the Marxist is still there.

The real question is how do we fix it?

I suggest we do all we can come mid term and boot these RINO and take back the party, there is no other way outside of another party, but we know what that does.

Outside of a revolution, were pretty much screwed at this point.

Not only does ObamaCare kick in as scheduled, but the Manchurian Candidate might get to appoint two Justices to the SCOTUS.   That prospect ought to scare the cement out of all of us.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2012, 05:26:39 PM
Quote from: PeterR on November 10, 2012, 05:14:13 PM


Not only does ObamaCare kick in as scheduled, but the Manchurian Candidate might get to appoint two Justices to the SCOTUS.   That prospect ought to scare the cement out of all of us.
Pray that none of the Conservative Justices get sick.
They now need Secret Service protection 24/7.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Yawn on November 10, 2012, 06:59:54 PM
Fortunately, pedophile supporter Ginsburg will be the first to retire. So at least it'll be one far left nut being replaced with another--no net change.

If one on the right retires, the 5-4 decisions will forever flip against American standards--including the 2nd Amendment.  America will be forever LOCKED into radical Socialism untill it collapses under its own debt.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:44:35 AM
Quote from: mdgiles on November 09, 2012, 08:23:25 AM
As rational people, with faith in the collective wisdom of our fellow Americans; we assumed that after witnessing the failures and incompetence of this administration, they would want it to continue.

Translation: we used our gut feeling to assume that America would elect Mitt Romney, in spite of all the poll numbers moving in the incumbent's direction.

This election was a war between math and gut.  Math won.  And it happens to be fittingly allegorical of what frames the current struggle between the Left and the Right: logic and reason vs faith and tradition.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: kramarat on November 11, 2012, 08:20:09 AM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:44:35 AM
Translation: we used our gut feeling to assume that America would elect Mitt Romney, in spite of all the poll numbers moving in the incumbent's direction.

This election was a war between math and gut.  Math won.  And it happens to be fittingly allegorical of what frames the current struggle between the Left and the Right: logic and reason vs faith and tradition.

Math won?????

Please provide links to the happy numbers. Everything I find indicates a continued downward slide.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
Quote from: kramarat on November 11, 2012, 08:20:09 AM
Math won?????

Please provide links to the happy numbers. Everything I find indicates a continued downward slide.

I'm talking about forecasting the election, genius.  The Left pointed to statistics and evidence.  The Right relied on their "gut feeling" and such scientific indicators such as "crowd enthusiasm". 

What makes you think that the Right is any more right on economic forecasting and science?  It uses the same method as it failed miserably with on the election; gut feeling and faith.  It lost, and if the Right has its way, America will be as sore of a loser as Karl Rove.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: kramarat on November 12, 2012, 05:27:13 AM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 09:17:25 AM
I'm talking about forecasting the election, genius.  The Left pointed to statistics and evidence.  The Right relied on their "gut feeling" and such scientific indicators such as "crowd enthusiasm". 

What makes you think that the Right is any more right on economic forecasting and science?  It uses the same method as it failed miserably with on the election; gut feeling and faith.  It lost, and if the Right has its way, America will be as sore of a loser as Karl Rove.

Oh.........election forecasting.

Sure enough. The Phoenix CBS affiliate nailed it on Oct 19. Amazing powers of prediction!!!!!
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Yawn on November 12, 2012, 05:33:38 AM
They consulted.....


......NATE SILVER

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Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Darth Fife on November 12, 2012, 06:33:44 AM
Quote from: PeterR on November 10, 2012, 05:14:13 PM


Not only does ObamaCare kick in as scheduled, but the Manchurian Candidate might get to appoint two Justices to the SCOTUS.   That prospect ought to scare the cement out of all of us.

Now, consider this likely scenario. Obama supporters push through a bill which, in essence, allows Obama to run for a third term - an obvious violation of the 22nd Amendment. This, of course, will be challenged.

When it gets to the Supreme Court, what do you think will happen - in light of what went down when Obamacare got to the SCOTUS?
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: keyboarder on November 12, 2012, 06:55:59 AM
Quote from: Darth Fife on November 12, 2012, 06:33:44 AM
Now, consider this likely scenario. Obama supporters push through a bill which, in essence, allows Obama to run for a third term - an obvious violation of the 22nd Amendment. This, of course, will be challenged.

When it gets to the Supreme Court, what do you think will happen - in light of what went down when Obamacare got to the SCOTUS?

The prospect of that is a scary one.  It amazes me that the left does not think that this would affect them as adversly as it will us.  The freebies will eventually run out and then what?  Just what part of that scenario will the leftists think is freedom and liberty inspired? 
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Yawn on November 12, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
None of that matters.  When 20 million DEPENDENT Mexicans become citizens and MILLIONS of REAL Americans become dependent on the Obama Government, no conservative will ever win an election anyway. 

When America collapses, what's rebuilt will look more like the Soviet Union  (or probably broke Russia), than the Founder's AMERICA
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 08:24:27 AM
Quote from: Yawn on November 12, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
None of that matters.  When 20 million DEPENDENT Mexicans become citizens and MILLIONS of REAL Americans become dependent on the Obama Government, no conservative will ever win an election anyway. 

When America collapses, what's rebuilt will look more like the Soviet Union  (or probably broke Russia), than the Founder's AMERICA

I will probably live in the Republic of Chicasicstan.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: keyboarder on November 12, 2012, 08:30:46 AM
Quote from: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 08:24:27 AM
I will probably live in the Republic of Chicasicstan.

That's the second time this morning that I've heard mention of possible moves.  The "sheriff" asked me this morning would i like to live in Canada?   :unsure:
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: JustKari on November 12, 2012, 08:40:48 AM
Quote from: keyboarder on November 12, 2012, 08:30:46 AM
That's the second time this morning that I've heard mention of possible moves.  The "sheriff" asked me this morning would i like to live in Canada?   :unsure:

Oh  I won't be moving, I was joking that all of the Northern blue states will probably become a socialist country.  I just realized I spelled it wrong though, Chicagsicstan.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: TowardLiberty on November 12, 2012, 09:46:58 AM
Quote from: Sci Fi Fan on November 11, 2012, 06:44:35 AM
Translation: we used our gut feeling to assume that America would elect Mitt Romney, in spite of all the poll numbers moving in the incumbent's direction.

This election was a war between math and gut.  Math won.  And it happens to be fittingly allegorical of what frames the current struggle between the Left and the Right: logic and reason vs faith and tradition.

Claiming the mantle of logic and reason for either party is laughable.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: taxed on November 13, 2012, 10:13:23 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.

Yes he is.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: mdgiles on November 13, 2012, 10:22:42 AM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.
The people with the mental disorder are those who witness what is taking place, and refuse to believe their "lying eyes". Either Obungler is out to destroy the country or he is completely, and utterly, incompetent. Take your choice. Either choice means we are screwed with him in office.
Title: Re: I Quit!
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2012, 12:02:22 PM
Quote from: elmerfudd on November 09, 2012, 07:08:01 PM
The people with the mental disorder are the ones that think Obummer is out to destroy this country.  He's not.
Destroy or fundamentally change, regardless, it means the same thing.
One needs to destroy, before they can change/rebuild.

Does anything ever get through that brick, you call a skull?