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Title: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: taxed on November 09, 2017, 12:50:58 PM
Sorry, too many red flags.  After what they pulled on Herman Cain, tried to pull on Trump during the election, and the fact it came from the Washington Post, it requires me to demand a high burden of proof.

The GOP was out, in unison, calling for him to get out, before any facts are known.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 09, 2017, 01:39:47 PM
Quote from: taxed on November 09, 2017, 12:50:58 PM
Sorry, too many red flags.  After what they pulled on Herman Cain, tried to pull on Trump during the election, and the fact it came from the Washington Post, it requires me to demand a high burden of proof.

The GOP was out, in unison, calling for him to get out, before any facts are known.

For people that don't know what taxed is talking about.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/report-woman-says-roy-moore-initiated-sexual-activity-when-she-n819426


I would say the MSM has taken a new low. 

Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 09, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 09, 2017, 04:39:56 PM
Agree more FAKE NEWS by the LSM, RINOS, McConnell and McCain taking the lead. People of AL are on the this BS and still turn out to vote for the Judge. Same old dirty trick BUT the people are on to it.  :cursing:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 09, 2017, 04:52:16 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 09, 2017, 04:38:58 PM
I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I see what you did Boo.   :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2017, 05:36:20 PM
God, these leftists are incorrigible! And so are the Dims.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 09, 2017, 07:08:24 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 09, 2017, 05:36:20 PM
God, these leftists are incorrigible! And so are the Dims.

There's a difference?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 09, 2017, 07:56:30 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 09, 2017, 07:08:24 PM
There's a difference?
That was the point, they're inseparable.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Billy's bayonet on November 10, 2017, 02:08:03 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion that this whole fantasy was orchestrated by McConnell, McStain and a few other scum sucking RINO's.....we should lynch them from a train trestle.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 10, 2017, 04:25:07 AM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 10, 2017, 02:08:03 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion that this whole fantasy was orchestrated by McConnell, McStain and a few other scum sucking RINO's.....we should lynch them from a train trestle.

Nailed it, Mconnell and the RINOGOPe spent 30 Million trying to take Moore out in the Primary and they did not find this?????????. More BS to protect the SWAMP but AL will not buy it. The people are to smart and the along with AL the rest of the country is on to this playbook. :thumbdown:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: supsalemgr on November 10, 2017, 04:29:48 AM
WAPO report. HMM?

Timing is quite convenient as the ballot cannot be changed now.

Moore is no prize, but this is a sham and GOPe is all too ready to jump on the "withdrwal" bandwagon. They would rather have a dem than an uncontrollable conservative in the senate.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2017, 05:38:47 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 10, 2017, 04:29:48 AM
WAPO report. HMM?

Timing is quite convenient as the ballot cannot be changed now.

Moore is no prize, but this is a sham and GOPe is all too ready to jump on the "withdrwal" bandwagon. They would rather have a dem than an uncontrollable conservative in the senate.
Yep, remember when they preferred Terry McCauliffe over the TREA candidate?
This is no different. This has his child porn stained fingerprints all over it.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Bronx on November 10, 2017, 02:36:47 PM
Oh the democrat web of lies and deception is really hard at work.

BOMBSHELL: Judge Roy Moore Accuser Worked for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden Campaigns, Part of the 'Resistance'

https://thepolitistick.com/bombshell-roy-moore-accuser-worked-hillary-clinton-joe-biden-campaigns/
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2017, 03:16:34 PM
Quote from: Bronx on November 10, 2017, 02:36:47 PM
Oh the democrat web of lies and deception is really hard at work.

BOMBSHELL: Judge Roy Moore Accuser Worked for Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden Campaigns, Part of the 'Resistance'

https://thepolitistick.com/bombshell-roy-moore-accuser-worked-hillary-clinton-joe-biden-campaigns/
I knew the truth would come out eventually. Bitch deserves to be sued!
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 10, 2017, 04:15:29 PM
Quote from: Billy's bayonet on November 10, 2017, 02:08:03 AM
I have a sneaking suspicion that this whole fantasy was orchestrated by McConnell, McStain and a few other scum sucking RINO's.....we should lynch them from a train trestle.

Very doubtful reps had anything to do with this. If they had they would have used it  in the primary to get Strange elected. If reps were smart and supported Moore or at least kept their mouths shut till he was elected then a rep governor could name a replacement  just  in case the accusations had merit. McCain is the most despicable  piece of dog crap in politics. He wants Moore to drop out and hand the seat to a liberal democrat and its quite likely he was involved  in the phony Trump Dossier.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 10, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
The damage might be done.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2017, 05:05:55 PM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 10, 2017, 04:49:33 PM
The damage might be done.
To the Establishment? Most definitely! To Moore? I highly doubt Alabamans will give it a second thought, they know who and what Moore stands for.
If anything, this will cement their resolve in their support for the man, they aren't as stupid as the leftists think they are.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 10, 2017, 05:22:45 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2017, 05:05:55 PM
To the Establishment? Most definitely! To Moore? I highly doubt Alabamans will give it a second thought, they know who and what Moore stands for.
If anything, this will cement their resolve in their support for the man, they aren't as stupid as the leftists think they are.

So far he is weathering it pretty well.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/henrygomez/poll-shows-alabama-race-tied-after-allegations-against-roy?utm_term=.kgZbAkwrx#.fcDeGdDY0

Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 10, 2017, 05:37:04 PM
Quote from: mrclose on November 10, 2017, 05:23:11 PM
Two articles which may be relevant!

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/alabama-woman-claims-wapo-reporter-offered-1000s-accuse-roy-moore-sexual-abuse/

https://70news.wordpress.com/tag/deborah-wesson-gibson/
This is exactly why I think the Establishment actually screwed up and more than likely created more support for Moore in the end
People love an underdog, especially one where his own party tried to take him down in support of a leftist.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: supsalemgr on November 11, 2017, 04:54:11 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2017, 05:05:55 PM
To the Establishment? Most definitely! To Moore? I highly doubt Alabamans will give it a second thought, they know who and what Moore stands for.
If anything, this will cement their resolve in their support for the man, they aren't as stupid as the leftists think they are.

Let's hope so. He still has over a week to expose this poor effort to discredit Moore. It is highly unlikely, but there could be some really embarrassing info on some folks in Washington.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 11, 2017, 05:11:46 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 11, 2017, 04:54:11 AM
Let's hope so. He still has over a week to expose this poor effort to discredit Moore. It is highly unlikely, but there could be some really embarrassing info on some folks in Washington.
Everyone knows this was a political hack job and it's stuff like this that brings people out of their homes in opposition to the other candidate.
Moore has an excellent reputation in Alabama, as well as standing up to leftists, (think Ten Commandments monument) and now he's being attacked from within by his own party by the leftist leadership of McCON-nel?
None of this sits well with the people of the state and it most likely will backfire totally on the RINO scum as well as his Dim opponent.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 11, 2017, 05:35:02 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2017, 05:05:55 PM
To the Establishment? Most definitely! To Moore? I highly doubt Alabamans will give it a second thought, they know who and what Moore stands for.
If anything, this will cement their resolve in their support for the man, they aren't as stupid as the leftists think they are.

That's being said over and over, as the MSM interviews Alabamians.  Some of them saying they did the same thing to Clarence Thomas, Donald Trump - and look how GOOD they turned out to be!  Therefore, it's all fake, they're even more determined to fight to Moore!
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 11, 2017, 05:42:09 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 11, 2017, 04:54:11 AM
Let's hope so. He still has over a week to expose this poor effort to discredit Moore. It is highly unlikely, but there could be some really embarrassing info on some folks in Washington.
Case in point. Here's proof this isn't about these phony allegations, it's about keeping another Conservative out of the Senate at any cost, even if it means helping the opposition Marxists.


WASHINGTON — Senate Republicans scrambled on Friday to find a way to block Roy S. Moore's path to the Senate, exploring extraordinary measures to rid themselves of their own nominee in Alabama after accusations emerged that he had made sexual advances on four teenage girls when he was in his 30s.

"I have never known this woman, or anything," said Mr. Moore, who described the accusations as "politically motivated."

Republican senators and their advisers, in a flurry of phone calls, emails and text messages, discussed fielding a write-in candidate, pushing Alabama's governor to delay the Dec. 12 special election or even not seating Mr. Moore at all should he be elected. In an interview, Senator Mitch McConnell of Kentucky, the majority leader, declined to say whether he would agree to seat Mr. Moore should he win. Mr. McConnell deferred a question about a possible write-in campaign by Senator Luther Strange, the current occupant of the seat, to Mr. Strange.



Buzzfeed tried to claim the race tied by fudging the data of this poll.
When in fact it has Moore kicking his opponents ass.

Poll Shows Alabama Race Tied After Allegations Against Roy Moore
https://s3.amazonaws.com/ddhqpolls/DDHQ_AL_Senate_Poll_9.29.17.pdf

https://www.buzzfeed.com/henrygomez/poll-shows-alabama-race-tied-after-allegations-against-roy?utm_term=.qt7wR7vrQ#.fwZPp67q3
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One other point. Prior to this lie about Moore hitting the news, what were the main stories of focus?
See what the LSM did for McCON-nel and the Dims here?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 11, 2017, 06:37:35 AM
Does anyone think it is time for TRUMP to have a rally about tax reform in AL? Say around Dec 2, 2017 and show support for Judge Moore?? :thumbsup: :thumbup: :biggrin:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 11, 2017, 06:42:29 AM
Check out the creditability of one of Moore accusers. Any bets that BITEME did her ? :love: :lol:

http://ibankcoin.com/zeropointnow/2017/11/10/roy-moore-story-unraveling-one-accuser-worked-for-hillary-another-claims-several-pastors-made-sexual-advances/#sthash.0QBFNjIs.dpbs
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 11, 2017, 09:54:52 AM
Hey Taxed, you wanted proof? Here it is, the gop'E aligns with leftists. This is proof enough Moore is innocent.

RNC Establishment committing suicide. Could the McCon do any more damage to the party? (Red For Commie Red)

Moore defiant as Senate Republicans sever ties
The GOP Senate campaign arm withdrew from a fundraising pact with the party's Alabama nominee.

The GOP's Senate campaign arm on Friday severed its fundraising agreement with Alabama Senate candidate Roy Moore, the most concrete step the party has taken to separate itself from the besieged nominee.

But Moore and his backers remained defiant, portraying accusations that he initiated sexual contact with teenagers decades ago as a conspiracy by his opponents to drag down his candidacy.

The move by the National Republican Senatorial Committee came a day after The Washington Post reported the accounts of four women who alleged that Moore, as a man in his 30s, had pursued them as teenagers. One of the woman said he initiated sexual contact with her as a 14-year-old.

Two Republican senators rescinded their endorsements of Moore on Friday evening, with Steve Daines of Montana and Mike Lee of Utah pulling their support.

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/10/nrsc-drops-out-of-fundraising-agreement-with-moore-244783
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 11, 2017, 04:43:52 PM
In Alabama, Republican Voters Stand by Roy Moore.

snip~

"Why would they wait until now to come forward with this unless someone put them up to it,"

more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/alabama-republican-voters-stand-roy-moore-n819906
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 11, 2017, 04:56:37 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 11, 2017, 04:43:52 PM
In Alabama, Republican Voters Stand by Roy Moore.

snip~

"Why would they wait until now to come forward with this unless someone put them up to it,"

more @
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/alabama-republican-voters-stand-roy-moore-n819906
I'm tellin ya folks, this is going to completely backfire on the leftist RINO. They won't recover.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 11, 2017, 05:07:48 PM
I read stuff like this, and just wonder what McConnell is up to:

QuoteThroughout his Alabama Senate primary against Sen. Luther Strange, Moore pummeled the Republican establishment practically on a daily basis. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and strategist Karl Rove were his favorite punching bags.

But there was no love lost in either direction. The NRSC campaigned against Moore, and a McConnell-backed super PAC spent millions casting Moore, who was twice removed from the Alabama Supreme Court for defying federal orders, as unfit for the Senate.
...
"This is a hit job from the ultra-liberal Washington press seeking to not only destroy Judge Moore but the conservative movement sweeping America," said Moore campaign chairman Bill Armistead. "Ultimately, the truth will be known about what is going on to keep Judge Moore out of the Senate."
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/11/10/nrsc-drops-out-of-fundraising-agreement-with-moore-244783

IMHO...  I can't remember details from dating +4 decades ago.  This isn't just grasping at straws, but borders on vindictiveness with no regard for the GOP's success or effort to maintain Majority control of the Senate by Mitch McConnell.  He should be WELCOMING every Republican he can get!  What is WRONG with Mitch McConnell!?!?!?!?!

And... with all the hoopla over these sexual harassments from every corner of the earth, geeze... when is some sleazy hag gonna raise her  head and try to cash in on half the Republican party for looking anywhere but directly into the eyes of a waitress 30 years ago!?
How many guys who grew up in a business didn't face women who tried to lure & entrap them into something embarrassing - to cash in?  No joke, even that's been turned on it's head with this, "Abuse by someone in a Position of Power".   

Oh, I get it, it's only "harassment" if someone SAYS it's "harassment" - and then, well, it's really awful!  Drive that SOB out of office, fire them, press charges, humiliate them - it's the NEW Legislation in Washington DC, "Thou shalt not speak to the opposite sex!"  Heaven forbid a guy would actually compliment a woman, "You look very professional today." or a woman compliment a man, "I like the way you've tied your Tie."   OMG!!!   Those hidden motives!
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: acgraham on November 11, 2017, 06:40:09 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 10, 2017, 03:16:34 PM
I knew the truth would come out eventually. Bitch deserves to be sued!

Deborah Wesson Gibson only alleged that she dated Judge Moore a few times with her mother's permission when she was 17. She also had an unimportant job. I mean are you a woman? Throwing around the word Bitch and saying she should be 'sued' makes you sound reactionary. We don't need that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/10/roy-moore-accuser-worked-for-clinton-campaign-as-interpreter-reports-say.html
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 11, 2017, 07:55:37 PM
I don't think McConnell and company are responsibly for this but I'd bet my liver they were given the heads up.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 11, 2017, 07:57:52 PM
Quote from: acgraham on November 11, 2017, 06:40:09 PM
Deborah Wesson Gibson only alleged that she dated Judge Moore a few times with her mother's permission when she was 17. She also had an unimportant job. I mean are you a woman? Throwing around the word Bitch and saying she should be 'sued' makes you sound reactionary. We don't need that.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/11/10/roy-moore-accuser-worked-for-clinton-campaign-as-interpreter-reports-say.html
Coming out 40 years later is nothing more than a hit job sponsored by the leftists in both party's, so yeah, Bitch fits perfectly!
Welcome to the forum. But I suggest you get thicker skin and try to avoid the emotional responses.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 12, 2017, 06:52:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 11, 2017, 07:57:52 PM
Coming out 40 years later is nothing more than a hit job sponsored by the leftists in both party's, so yeah, Bitch fits perfectly!
Welcome to the forum. But I suggest you get thicker skin and try to avoid the emotional responses.

The rest of the story ... consider Moore might have not known she was 17, I'd at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
QuoteShe recalled her mother saying she was "the luckiest girl in the world" that Moore wanted to date her, noting that he "had this godlike, almost deity status" in Gadsen, Ala., The Post reported.

WHOA!!!   Mom definitely wanted her daughter and Moore hitched, regardless of age.  If we had a recording of mom & daughter conversations, I bet they were quite interesting!  Not much imagination needed...  If Judge more had a BAD reputation, why didn't "mom" say, "Stay away from that pervert!" - no, it was more like, "If you reel that big fish in, honey, you're gonna be the luckiest girl in the world!!!   He's a really nice guy!"

And don't miss this, from the woman herself.
QuoteGibson alleged that she and Moore only kissed twice and said in retrospect, she's "glad nothing bad happened."
What she DIDN'T say, "That dirty-old-man was an Octopus, his hands were all over me, grabbing - it was horrible!"  Moore was certainly big and strong enough to overpower and have-his-way if he was a sexual predator.

"...nothing bad happened." - Which I take as, "He was a PERFECT GENTLEMAN, treated me with respect and dignity."
What the MSM, DEMS & GOPe is trying to paint Moore with, IMHO, just isn't lining up with this woman's words.  Their "goal" is to stop Moore from being elected, IMO, at any cost - and I suspect what they're projecting on Moore is their own guilt. 

It's really a stretch to say Moore is a pevert - and really a greater stretch to deny Washington DC is an honorable, moral environment, free of sexual predators (Well, in retrospect, the 3 Kennedy perverts are dead...  JFK had his teenage girls.)

Oh, forgot about that?
QuoteA retired church worker has revealed how John F Kennedy took her virginity during a debauched 18-month affair while she was a teenage White House intern.
Mimi Alford says she felt powerless to resist the late U.S. president as he pulled her into 'Mrs Kennedy's room' and seduced her on his wife's bed.
Other claims in her newly published autobiography include that he made her inhale a sex drug during a party at Bing Crosby's ranch and coerced her to perform a sex act on an aide while he looked on.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096770/JFK-took-virginity-White-House-intern-Mimi-Alford-19.html#ixzz4yEFcE8Ie

Maybe the Establishment hates Judge Moore because he didn't RAPE this girl, and watch her perform lewd sex acts on other interns?
IMO - someone PAID these people, or is going to PAY these accusers handsomely if Judge Moore loses.   Expect *more* crap to surface (or be completely made up), if this story continues to fail to gain traction.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 12, 2017, 07:19:18 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 12, 2017, 06:52:01 AM
The rest of the story ... consider Moore might have not known she was 17, I'd at least give him the benefit of the doubt.
WHOA!!!   Mom definitely wanted her daughter and Moore hitched, regardless of age.  If we had a recording of mom & daughter conversations, I bet they were quite interesting!  Not much imagination needed...  If Judge more had a BAD reputation, why didn't "mom" say, "Stay away from that pervert!" - no, it was more like, "If you reel that big fish in, honey, you're gonna be the luckiest girl in the world!!!   He's a really nice guy!"

And don't miss this, from the woman herself.What she DIDN'T say, "That dirty-old-man was an Octopus, his hands were all over me, grabbing - it was horrible!"  Moore was certainly big and strong enough to overpower and have-his-way if he was a sexual predator.

"...nothing bad happened." - Which I take as, "He was a PERFECT GENTLEMAN, treated me with respect and dignity."
What the MSM, DEMS & GOPe is trying to paint Moore with, IMHO, just isn't lining up with this woman's words.  Their "goal" is to stop Moore from being elected, IMO, at any cost - and I suspect what they're projecting on Moore is their own guilt. 

It's really a stretch to say Moore is a pevert - and really a greater stretch to deny Washington DC is an honorable, moral environment, free of sexual predators (Well, in retrospect, the 3 Kennedy perverts are dead...  JFK had his teenage girls.)

Oh, forgot about that?http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2096770/JFK-took-virginity-White-House-intern-Mimi-Alford-19.html#ixzz4yEFcE8Ie

Maybe the Establishment hates Judge Moore because he didn't RAPE this girl, and watch her perform lewd sex acts on other interns?
IMO - someone PAID these people, or is going to PAY these accusers handsomely if Judge Moore loses.   Expect *more* crap to surface (or be completely made up), if this story continues to fail to gain traction.
That about sums it up Hoof.
I don't know one man that didn't find some young thing so attractive, that he was able to walk away from all the flirtations, especially when you have a mother encouraging the girl.
If not for my own mother warning me about these female predators, my life would have turned out entirely different, and more than likely divorced and in debt.

This is the South, culture is very different than other states, catching a man can be seen as a badge of honor, especially one like Moore, an up and coming leader in the state.

My mom told me, her mother told her to find where all the GI's were hanging out, this was in the 20s.
You buy new blue jeans, soak them in the tub, put them on wet and let them dry, then sachet over, and whatever man follows you home will be your choice for marrying.
I kid you not, that's how my parents met, married nearly 70 years.

So what took place in Moore's situation is nothing more than a part of the courting ritual, and as you point out, Moore was not a letch, he was looking for a young, good looking mate, which he eventually found.
Let's be honest, get em young before they're full of baggage, hate and disdain for men and treat them right and you'll be a happily married man.

I believe Moore weathered the storm, Alabamans see right through this, they also know and respect Moore's character and have absolutely no issue with his actions, and Hell, neither do I.
I think McCON-nel bit off Moore than he can chew and is about to choke to his literal political death for this abuse of power.
He wasn't elected to defeat Conservatives. This is an abuse of power and the electorate see it for what it is.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 12, 2017, 08:11:16 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 12, 2017, 07:19:18 AM
That about sums it up Hoof.
I don't know one man that didn't find some young thing so attractive, that he was able to walk away from all the flirtations, especially when you have a mother encouraging the girl.
If not for my own mother warning me about these female predators, my life would have turned out entirely different, and more than likely divorced and in debt.

This is the South, culture is very different than other states, catching a man can be seen as a badge of honor, especially one like Moore, an up and coming leader in the state.

My mom told me, her mother told her to find where all the GI's were hanging out, this was in the 20s.
You buy new blue jeans, soak them in the tub, put them on wet and let them dry, then sachet over, and whatever man follows you home will be your choice for marrying.
I kid you not, that's how my parents met, married nearly 70 years.


So what took place in Moore's situation is nothing more than a part of the courting ritual, and as you point out, Moore was not a letch, he was looking for a young, good looking mate, which he eventually found.
Let's be honest, get em young before they're full of baggage, hate and disdain for men and treat them right and you'll be a happily married man.

I believe Moore weathered the storm, Alabamans see right through this, they also know and respect Moore's character and have absolutely no issue with his actions, and Hell, neither do I.
I think McCON-nel bit off Moore than he can chew and is about to choke to his literal political death for this abuse of power.
He wasn't elected to defeat Conservatives. This is an abuse of power and the electorate see it for what it is.

Same here, both my parents warned us kids of of GOLD-DIGGERS, they wanted the family business, not you.

Funny you mentioned the tight jeans, wifey had snowy white jeans for our first date...  I'll never forget those mental images - this was before spandex, leather was for Bikers, she got all kinds of attention everywhere... whistles, hoots & hollars - in addition to mine.
As soon as we got engaged, I told her, "Don't wear those again!  I want to live to marry you!"  :drool:

... and guess WHO was behind it all?  Her mom, coaching her.  I *thought* I was the guy moving on her, they had set up the whole thing - and to this day, laugh about how I got snared!  :wink:  Sexual predator - yeah, right - give me a break!  She had me hogtied in knots from the first date on!  Women have ALL the power in a relationship.

Rural Wisconsin is/was no different than Alabama.   The real definition of "a Perfect Gentleman" is "He resisted every temptation & flirtation I tried on him, I couldn't break him."  Maybe that's a girl's way of determining whether or not the guy would be faithful in marriage.

As wifey and I talk about Judge Moore, we're that much more assured, he is a FINE Perfect Gentleman... who successfully fought off advances of Gold-diggers and whores, unlike the typical DC politician.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 12, 2017, 09:29:58 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 12, 2017, 08:11:16 AM
Same here, both my parents warned us kids of of GOLD-DIGGERS, they wanted the family business, not you.

Funny you mentioned the tight jeans, wifey had snowy white jeans for our first date...  I'll never forget those mental images - this was before spandex, leather was for Bikers, she got all kinds of attention everywhere... whistles, hoots & hollars - in addition to mine.
As soon as we got engaged, I told her, "Don't wear those again!  I want to live to marry you!"  :drool:

... and guess WHO was behind it all?  Her mom, coaching her.  I *thought* I was the guy moving on her, they had set up the whole thing - and to this day, laugh about how I got snared!  :wink:  Sexual predator - yeah, right - give me a break!  She had me hogtied in knots from the first date on!  Women have ALL the power in a relationship.

Rural Wisconsin is/was no different than Alabama.   The real definition of "a Perfect Gentleman" is "He resisted every temptation & flirtation I tried on him, I couldn't break him."  Maybe that's a girl's way of determining whether or not the guy would be faithful in marriage.

As wifey and I talk about Judge Moore, we're that much more assured, he is a FINE Perfect Gentleman... who successfully fought off advances of Gold-diggers and whores, unlike the typical DC politician.
That's how I see it as well, he was always a perfect gentleman, and yeah, the man pursues till she lets him capture her, all a part of the mating ritual.
Moore finally did meet the woman he wanted, and if I'm not mistaken fifteen years his youth?
So Moore liked em young? Oh Hell, he's a Man? Well let's just string that evil bastard up, he's obviously a letch, can't be trusted as evidence of his wife being by far, younger than he.

I really don't have an issue with any of this, because my first love was much younger than I. I even joined the army and had plans of marrying her and raising a family, but she had other plans and didn't include a future with me, and all for the best, she wound up being a total loser and welfare mom, fat, and now, extremely homely.
But I loved that girl and it wasn't about sex, and I can only assume Moore had the same intentions based on witness accounts.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 12, 2017, 04:35:26 PM
Is it too much to say, Judge Roy Moore is more Constitutionally correct than the GOPe?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: supsalemgr on November 13, 2017, 08:38:28 AM
The circus is almost complete. FNC is reporting Gloria Allred has joined the legal team of one of the accusers.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2017, 08:40:56 AM
Quote from: supsalemgr on November 13, 2017, 08:38:28 AM
The circus is almost complete. FNC is reporting Gloria Allred has joined the legal team of one of the accusers.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
In the clown car of political frauds and hit pieces in an attempt to destroy Moores political career, she's now the driver? :lol:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: topside on November 13, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
This isn't even interesting - not sure why all the opinions are coming out.

Aren't we a country ruled by law?

Moore's accusers have the right to file charges - unless the statute of limitation is past. And if he did go over the line with the women, then they had their chance to file a charge against him. The statute of limitations protects from filing out of convenient accusations aligned with other motivations - in the extreme. If too much time is passed, they gave up their right - right?

If a valid charge is filed, then it goes to court - and Moor is innocent until proven guilty. And if proven guilty, then he get's a sentence - goes to jail. 

I don't know - Moore might be innocent and he might guilty - but the system needs to do it's job.

It's so easy - cut and dried. It's WHY we bother with all those jokers in Congress - to give us laws that work in a diverse set of circumstances. So what's all this about? It's obviously about the election - not about the reported crimes. I don't see any laws that change presumption of innocence is you happen to be a Senator - guilty until proven innocent. But that seems to be the case here.

Let's look at The Weiner - euphemistically of course. He hung around FOREVER until he was finally tried and convicted of sexting with a minor. Dims knew he was a perv but were willing to let the law run it's course. So did the Pubs. But Moore should be put out now?   

Bigger problem ... McConnell needs someone to teach him about the rule of law - and what he's in Congress for. Apparently he missed the day they taught that the laws of Congress are applied to determine legality. McConnell's actions suggest he is unqualified as a Senator. But he might find a job writing opinion pieces for WAPO.

Roy - if you are lying and did wrong ... then, by all means, step down and take your medicine. Otherwise, fight this to the end.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: AndyJackson on November 13, 2017, 02:22:24 PM
And sue, sue, sue.

This is a re-run of the Trump scam.

And they'll do it some more next year, to whoever they hate the most.

Don't sue...... you just agree to keep accepting it and losing some elections to it, that you had won.

So damned sick of it.  Allred should be sued into oblivion.  There's got to be a way that she can be called to account, when her "clients" can't prove one bit of their serial slandering.

And yeah, Jebby and Bitch are in on it.  Just like McCain and Jeb with the dossier.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 13, 2017, 04:09:00 PM
I've never see it, but guys say I need to check it out, 'The Walking Dead'.
(https://i1.wp.com/www.soundoffcolumn.com/images/gloria-allred.jpg)

Is this individual one of the Stars?  got that pasty white look, with a smile like the Joker...  just curious
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 04:29:51 PM
Quote from: topside on November 13, 2017, 01:31:45 PM
This isn't even interesting - not sure why all the opinions are coming out.

Aren't we a country ruled by law?

Moore's accusers have the right to file charges - unless the statute of limitation is past. And if he did go over the line with the women, then they had their chance to file a charge against him. The statute of limitations protects from filing out of convenient accusations aligned with other motivations - in the extreme. If too much time is passed, they gave up their right - right?

If a valid charge is filed, then it goes to court - and Moor is innocent until proven guilty. And if proven guilty, then he get's a sentence - goes to jail. 

I don't know - Moore might be innocent and he might guilty - but the system needs to do it's job.

It's so easy - cut and dried. It's WHY we bother with all those jokers in Congress - to give us laws that work in a diverse set of circumstances. So what's all this about? It's obviously about the election - not about the reported crimes. I don't see any laws that change presumption of innocence is you happen to be a Senator - guilty until proven innocent. But that seems to be the case here.

Let's look at The Weiner - euphemistically of course. He hung around FOREVER until he was finally tried and convicted of sexting with a minor. Dims knew he was a perv but were willing to let the law run it's course. So did the Pubs. But Moore should be put out now?   

Bigger problem ... McConnell needs someone to teach him about the rule of law - and what he's in Congress for. Apparently he missed the day they taught that the laws of Congress are applied to determine legality. McConnell's actions suggest he is unqualified as a Senator. But he might find a job writing opinion pieces for WAPO.

Roy - if you are lying and did wrong ... then, by all means, step down and take your medicine. Otherwise, fight this to the end.

When Gloria Allred gets involved you know  its a scam. Too bad the pig rep establishment just  up and believes 40 year old charges. Why in the hell did these women get  so upset all of a sudden when Moore was in the public eye for decades? If its this easy to get rid  of reps then it might be a good idea for dems to pay women to make charges against every republican, then we would be rid  of the  party.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 04:31:22 PM
Oh yea, that woman crying  on tv today was fake as hell. Has she been crying for  40 years or  just for a few seconds  in front  of a camera?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 04:38:01 PM
Has anyone ever heard reps say Bill Clintons accusers saying he raped them should be believed? Its odd that only when its a conservative rep being accused that all of a sudden the accused has  no rights.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 13, 2017, 05:21:27 PM
Roy fires back!

Judge Roy Moore‏
@MooreSenate
Follow Follow @MooreSenate

The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp
9:40 AM - 13 Nov 2017

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930128259035082756?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2017-11-13%2Froy-moore-responds-mitch-mcconnell
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 05:38:54 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2017, 05:21:27 PM
Roy fires back!

Judge Roy Moore‏
@MooreSenate
Follow Follow @MooreSenate

The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp
9:40 AM - 13 Nov 2017

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930128259035082756?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnews%2F2017-11-13%2Froy-moore-responds-mitch-mcconnell

Maybe karma will bite Mitch in the ass and some  old  hag will come forward and claim he did something inappropriate.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: redbeard on November 13, 2017, 06:28:45 PM
Lets put it in perspective! I don't believe the so called 14 year old Hillary operative and with her out of the mix, the others claim to be 20,18 and 17 years old when he was 32! so the age difference was, if true, 12 to 14 years.  My father met my mother after WW2 she was 7 years younger then him. they were together for 66 years and raised 6 kids. I married late at 44 ( kind of wild before that) My wife is 11 1/2 years younger then me. she was 32 when we met. We've been together for 20 years.
What is so wrong with a 32 year old dating a 20 year old? Now 17 may be stretching it but as an old biker I can tell you I dated my share of titty dancers some were diffidently more the 14 years younger then me! What was the average age of the Playboy bunnies in the 70's and how many old farts went to the playboy mansion to meet them?
What I'm getting at is if you take the 14 year old out of the mix I'm at a loss to see anything improper that any heathy 32 year old wouldn't be doing!
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
Quote from: redbeard on November 13, 2017, 06:28:45 PM
Lets put it in perspective! I don't believe the so called 14 year old Hillary operative and with her out of the mix, the others claim to be 20,18 and 17 years old when he was 32! so the age difference was, if true, 12 to 14 years.  My father met my mother after WW2 she was 7 years younger then him. they were together for 66 years and raised 6 kids. I married late at 44 ( kind of wild before that) My wife is 11 1/2 years younger then me. she was 32 when we met. We've been together for 20 years.
What is so wrong with a 32 year old dating a 20 year old? Now 17 may be stretching it but as an old biker I can tell you I dated my share of titty dancers some were diffidently more the 14 years younger then me! What was the average age of the Playboy bunnies in the 70's and how many old farts went to the playboy mansion to meet them?
What I'm getting at is if you take the 14 year old out of the mix I'm at a loss to see anything improper that any heathy 32 year old wouldn't be doing!

This is really getting ridiculous. Herman Cain had a bunch of women claim they were harrassed and all of a sudden they all got  upset about it years after it happened then disappeared when he dropped out, same thing with Trump. If Moore is forced out then its  open season on republicans.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 13, 2017, 07:45:12 PM
Quote from: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 06:56:28 PM
This is really getting ridiculous. Herman Cain had a bunch of women claim they were harrassed and all of a sudden they all got  upset about it years after it happened then disappeared when he dropped out, same thing with Trump. If Moore is forced out then its  open season on republicans.


Hello!!  It's been open season for years.   :popcorn:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 14, 2017, 09:42:38 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 13, 2017, 05:21:27 PM
Roy fires back!

Judge Roy Moore‏
@MooreSenate
Follow Follow @MooreSenate

The person who should step aside is @SenateMajLdr Mitch McConnell. He has failed conservatives and must be replaced. #DrainTheSwamp
9:40 AM - 13 Nov 2017

https://twitter.com/MooreSenate/status/930128259035082756?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw&ref_url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.zerohedge.com%2Fnewls%2F2017-11-13%2Froy-moore-responds-mitch-mcconnell

This really has nothing to do about women or anything else. This really is about how scared these UNIPARTY animals both R & D Establishments are of Roy Moore! They must know that if he gets to DC he knows where all the bodies are buried and will let it all out. They all are involved and if someone starts bringing this to the surface many will pay the price like prison terms??? Has nothing to do with Moore being a TRUMP person. They have found a way and have neutered TRUMP. TRUMP needs 3 things: 1. the WALL and Immigration. He failed. In fact his new DHS is a Bushie open borders for everyone just don't live in her community. We will never get past the prototypes for the wall. 2. Obamacare done away with. He failed, Obamacare still in place and killing people but that is ok because the DC Rats do not have to be on Obamacare. What happened to the EO to let insurance companies sell across state lines??? Got replace with the gay and lesbian and starlet fame and fortune in Hollywood. Everyone knew since childhood the producers were doing the starlets and that is how they became starlets 3. Tax Reform. Not going to happen where the middle class gets a break. TRUMP will fail here. If tax reform happens the golbalists will be the big winners. That being said they the UNIPARTY establishment have effectively STOPPED TRUMP on important issues that effect his voters. TRUMP has done a great job on Trade and the Economy but that can be undone with a few strokes of the pen with a new POTUS. See they fear Roy Moore more than TRUMP because he will be after them and expousure is the one thing they DO NOT WANT. That means getting voted out of the office and anything but that they can live with.  :cursing:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 14, 2017, 10:16:54 AM
Quote from: nzone on November 14, 2017, 09:42:38 AM
This really has nothing to do about women or anything else. This really is about how scared these UNIPARTY animals both R & D Establishments are of Roy Moore! They must know that if he gets to DC he knows where all the bodies are buried and will let it all out. They all are involved and if someone starts bringing this to the surface many will pay the price like prison terms??? Has nothing to do with Moore being a TRUMP person. They have found a way and have neutered TRUMP. TRUMP needs 3 things: 1. the WALL and Immigration. He failed. In fact his new DHS is a Bushie open borders for everyone just don't live in her community. We will never get past the prototypes for the wall. 2. Obamacare done away with. He failed, Obamacare still in place and killing people but that is ok because the DC Rats do not have to be on Obamacare. What happened to the EO to let insurance companies sell across state lines??? Got replace with the gay and lesbian and starlet fame and fortune in Hollywood. Everyone knew since childhood the producers were doing the starlets and that is how they became starlets 3. Tax Reform. Not going to happen where the middle class gets a break. TRUMP will fail here. If tax reform happens the golbalists will be the big winners. That being said they the UNIPARTY establishment have effectively STOPPED TRUMP on important issues that effect his voters. TRUMP has done a great job on Trade and the Economy but that can be undone with a few strokes of the pen with a new POTUS. See they fear Roy Moore more than TRUMP because he will be after them and expousure is the one thing they DO NOT WANT. That means getting voted out of the office and anything but that they can live with.  :cursing:


Face it!  Trump has not failed in # 1,2 and 3.  The GOP has failed!  1,2, and 3 all fall on the GOP.  Trump can not put it into law until they give him something.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 14, 2017, 11:03:18 AM
Quote from: walkstall on November 14, 2017, 10:16:54 AM

Face it!  Trump has not failed in # 1,2 and 3.  The GOP has failed!  1,2, and 3 all fall on the GOP.  Trump can not put it into law until they give him something.

Well that is like saying you did not know driving under the influence was illegal. Don't drink and get caught driving and say you did not know it was illegal. TRUMP told everyone the WALL, IMMIGRATION  day 1, Obamacare history, selling across state healthcare insurance a must if going to fix the problem and bring down the cost. Said going to execute a EO to do so. NO EO and forgotten about. Correct the SWAMP RINOS did not help him in any form but he is not helping himself and still trying to kiss there arse for them to like him. SAD thing is he is not fighting them and is losing. Watch TRUMP kick Roy Moore under the bus about this time tormorrow with nothing more than allegations and no PROOF. He will do this to try and kiss the ARSE of the MITCH and RYAN AGAIN to like him. TRUMP was wrong once about MOORE and will lose again when MOORE wins in AL.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
Quote from: nzone on November 14, 2017, 11:03:18 AM
Well that is like saying you did not know driving under the influence was illegal. Don't drink and get caught driving and say you did not know it was illegal. TRUMP told everyone the WALL, IMMIGRATION  day 1, Obamacare history, selling across state healthcare insurance a must if going to fix the problem and bring down the cost. Said going to execute a EO to do so. NO EO and forgotten about. Correct the SWAMP RINOS did not help him in any form but he is not helping himself and still trying to kiss there arse for them to like him. SAD thing is he is not fighting them and is losing. Watch TRUMP kick Roy Moore under the bus about this time tormorrow with nothing more than allegations and no PROOF. He will do this to try and kiss the ARSE of the MITCH and RYAN AGAIN to like him. TRUMP was wrong once about MOORE and will lose again when MOORE wins in AL.
How did Trump fail? The gop'E has yet to send him a Bill to sign, so in truth, it's the leftist RINO that has failed, and failed miserably.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: AndyJackson on November 14, 2017, 11:32:01 AM
Quote from: ldub23 on November 13, 2017, 04:38:01 PM
Has anyone ever heard reps say Bill Clintons accusers saying he raped them should be believed? Its odd that only when its a conservative rep being accused that all of a sudden the accused has  no rights.
I heard several dim hacks being asked if we should assume that Menendez is guilty, and they all said "oh, um, err, of course not, I don't deal in hypotheticals, let the system run it's course"......

..... minutes after demanding that Moore step down.

You can't reason with, or even hope for decency out of these stupid bastards.  Not even worth the breath anymore.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: AndyJackson on November 14, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2017, 11:27:31 AM
How did Trump fail? The gop'E has yet to send him a Bill to sign, so in truth, it's the leftist RINO that has failed, and failed miserably.

They've actually succeeded fabulously.  Their goals are the same as the democrats, keep Trump from doing anything toward his agenda / beliefs.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: AndyJackson on November 14, 2017, 11:35:32 AM
woooops....... the yearbook signature by Moore.......... a forgery ?

http://thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/fake-analyst-says-judge-roy-moore-signature-inside-gloria-allred-accusers-yearbook-forged/

And who the hell EVER signed a HS yearbook in December ?  You're already gone to college or a job by then, the book put away in a box for 20 years.

Another leftist cheat undone by their sheer stupidity.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
Quote from: AndyJackson on November 14, 2017, 11:33:29 AM
They've actually succeeded fabulously.  Their goals are the same as the democrats, keep Trump from doing anything toward his agenda / beliefs.
Postponing Trump's agenda is in no way a failure on Trump's part, if anything, this is going to severely bite the RINO in the ass come midterms when the electorate have their say when we boot, yet even more of these libs from the party.
There's a reason the label of: "A do-nothing Congress" has stuck to these scum.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 14, 2017, 11:54:48 AM
Quote from: nzone on November 14, 2017, 11:03:18 AM
Well that is like saying you did not know driving under the influence was illegal. Don't drink and get caught driving and say you did not know it was illegal. TRUMP told everyone the WALL, IMMIGRATION  day 1, Obamacare history, selling across state healthcare insurance a must if going to fix the problem and bring down the cost. Said going to execute a EO to do so. NO EO and forgotten about. Correct the SWAMP RINOS did not help him in any form but he is not helping himself and still trying to kiss there arse for them to like him. SAD thing is he is not fighting them and is losing. Watch TRUMP kick Roy Moore under the bus about this time tormorrow with nothing more than allegations and no PROOF. He will do this to try and kiss the ARSE of the MITCH and RYAN AGAIN to like him. TRUMP was wrong once about MOORE and will lose again when MOORE wins in AL.


WHO makes and changes laws?  Its is congress NOT Trump or it just an EO that can be changed with out congress. 
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 14, 2017, 03:17:53 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2017, 11:53:09 AM
Postponing Trump's agenda is in no way a failure on Trump's part, if anything, this is going to severely bite the RINO in the ass come midterms when the electorate have their say when we boot, yet even more of these libs from the party.
There's a reason the label of: "A do-nothing Congress" has stuck to these scum.

Hope u are right about the mid terms but if history is any indication 90% will get reelected. If Trump throws Moore under the bus that 90% will look real good. If Moore wins which he will without Trump support, AGAIN, he will look like a loser, again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on ME and that will be Trump. If Trump stands by Moore his support will be noticed and a lot will happen in the mid terms. Moore election is about the RINOS taking on Bannon and Trump, nothing about the women in this case. Moore scares the Shit out of the UNIPARTY/ RINOGOPe more than Trump does.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 14, 2017, 03:24:32 PM
Mark Levin is calling on Mitch McConnell to resign the Senate and Paul Ryan to resign the house, in wake of the sexual scandals in both houses of congress.   Apparently several women have been groped and sexually harassed by sitting members of both houses, and Neither Mitch nor Paul is doing anything to call these peverts out and have them removed.

They're quick to condemn Roy Moore and threaten not to have him seated, but apparently there are House and Senators who getting away with sexual harassment.  The double standard needs to be addressed and the law needs to be applied to all members of both houses, regardless of the political party.

Not a single member of either house has been expelled for sexual abuse - but the problem is so bad, just recently the new requirement for sexual abuse training was put into effect.  There must be a "code of silence", Levin says, he suspects both Ryan and McConnell know who the sexual predators are, but keeping quiet.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2017, 03:27:45 PM
Quote from: nzone on November 14, 2017, 03:17:53 PM
Hope u are right about the mid terms but if history is any indication 90% will get reelected. If Trump throws Moore under the bus that 90% will look real good. If Moore wins which he will without Trump support, AGAIN, he will look like a loser, again. Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on ME and that will be Trump. If Trump stands by Moore his support will be noticed and a lot will happen in the mid terms. Moore election is about the RINOS taking on Bannon and Trump, nothing about the women in this case. Moore scares the Shit out of the UNIPARTY/ RINOGOPe more than Trump does.
You may want to review 2010 and 2014 midterm elections.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 14, 2017, 03:29:44 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 14, 2017, 03:24:32 PM
Mark Levin is calling on Mitch McConnell to resign the Senate and Paul Ryan to resign the house, in wake of the sexual scandals in both houses of congress.   Apparently several women have been groped and sexually harassed by sitting members of both houses, and Neither Mitch nor Paul is doing anything to call these peverts out and have them removed.

They're quick to condemn Roy Moore and threaten not to have him seated, but apparently there are House and Senators who getting away with sexual harassment.  The double standard needs to be addressed and the law needs to be applied to all members of both houses, regardless of the political party.
Thanks for the update Hoof, I was just wondering what Mark's take was on all this BS. Now I know and I expected as much. :thumbup:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 15, 2017, 04:20:46 AM
Im still waiting for Paul and Mitch to say they believe the women who say Bill Clinton raped them.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 15, 2017, 05:00:24 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 14, 2017, 03:27:45 PM
You may want to review 2010 and 2014 midterm elections.

2010 & 2014 yes u are right many Tea Party candidates rode the TP Flag to victory under Obama Adm. And what happened most all got co opt into the RINOGOPe SWAMP. Better look at the results of what happened? :ttoung:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 15, 2017, 05:05:40 AM
Quote from: mrclose on November 14, 2017, 04:06:42 PM
Self incrimination?  :confused: :lol:

You probably made the most outstanding point on here and it will go by the wayside. If RYAN and McConnell were investigated by someone other than approved by the SWAMP you can bet a number of affairs, sex harresment, doing little boys and girls would be uncovered. They both have been their for a long time and are not CLEAN of the above. Thet also know who else in the HOUSE and SENATE which most are doing the above BUT keep silent about it. Good POINT  :thumbup:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2017, 05:15:16 AM
Quote from: nzone on November 15, 2017, 05:00:24 AM
2010 & 2014 yes u are right many Tea Party candidates rode the TP Flag to victory under Obama Adm. And what happened most all got co opt into the RINOGOPe SWAMP. Better look at the results of what happened? :ttoung:
The fervor and ire to remove Marxists has neither wained nor been deterred, that was the point behind 2010 and 2014.
Coopted, or lied? Fact is, not one candidate won on moderate ideals, the nation pushed Conservative ideals. Show me one Pub that ran on a liberal, or even moderate, Hell, even somewhat squishy platform that won in 2010 and 2014.

Nothing has changed and the anger toward these squishes in the party has only compounded.
Or in your case, I guess it's safe to assume from the  :ttoung: that you are pulling for the leftists...

Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 15, 2017, 05:20:05 AM
Quote from: mrclose on November 14, 2017, 03:21:48 PM
Signed in December?

Yearbooks are published at the end of the school year: summer.

Christmas is the MIDDLE of the school year.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/fake-analyst-says-judge-roy-moore-signature-inside-gloria-allred-accusers-yearbook-forged/

A bunch of stuff on the signature, calling it forged.  On the radio, it's said Moore's wife also called it a fake.  I'm trying to figure out how a signature settles the question of sexual abuse...?   Is someone going to charge me, and produce a cancelled check with my signature as proof...? 

Signature = guilty.
Semen stains of a blue dress = he's a good liar, she's guilty.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 05:40:46 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 15, 2017, 05:20:05 AM
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017/11/fake-analyst-says-judge-roy-moore-signature-inside-gloria-allred-accusers-yearbook-forged/

A bunch of stuff on the signature, calling it forged.  On the radio, it's said Moore's wife also called it a fake.  I'm trying to figure out how a signature settles the question of sexual abuse...?   Is someone going to charge me, and produce a cancelled check with my signature as proof...? 

Signature = guilty.
Semen stains of a blue dress = he's a good liar, she's guilty.

ONLY if your a Dem.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2017, 08:39:46 AM
Stepson of Roy Moore Accuser Calls Her Allegations a Big Lie: 'I Don't Believe a Word She Says'; 'Mr. Moore, I Support You'; 'This is Bullshit,' Believes She Was Paid Off
Stepson of Roy Moore Accuser Calls Her Allegations a Big Lie: 'I Don't Believe a Word She Says'; 'Mr. Moore, I Support You'; 'This is Bullshit,' Believes She Was Paid Off

http://www.bizpacreview.com/2017/11/15/stepson-roy-moore-accuser-calls-story-big-lie-dont-believe-word-says-563165
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 15, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 15, 2017, 05:15:16 AM
The fervor and ire to remove Marxists has neither wained nor been deterred, that was the point behind 2010 and 2014.
Coopted, or lied? Fact is, not one candidate won on moderate ideals, the nation pushed Conservative ideals. Show me one Pub that ran on a liberal, or even moderate, Hell, even somewhat squishy platform that won in 2010 and 2014.

Nothing has changed and the anger toward these squishes in the party has only compounded.
Or in your case, I guess it's safe to assume from the  :ttoung: that you are pulling for the leftists...

This is your site and can do what you want but because someone calls you out and calling them a Leftists is quite childish don't you think??? Maybe not but it is your site and if that makes you feel good I am all for it :popcorn:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2017, 10:16:45 AM
Quote from: nzone on November 15, 2017, 09:20:15 AM
This is your site and can do what you want but because someone calls you out and calling them a Leftists is quite childish don't you think??? Maybe not but it is your site and if that makes you feel good I am all for it :popcorn:
My site has nothing to do with my calling out for your idiocy, it matters not who or how long you've been here, I'll call anyone for making stupid comments.

No, wagging your tongue at someone because you somehow think you won some arbitrary point is, for all intents and purposes, is childish, so yeah, lib fits.
The point I made is that nothing has changed, regardless of scum hiding behind the TEA label, TEA is more alive today than ever, the constituency has not backed off on replacing these scum and the fact that 18 RINO only just recently announced they''re not running again is proof positive they see the ire of the base and have no interest in being publically humiliated.

So what was your point, that we've somehow been magically defeated, Is that your claim?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: nzone on November 15, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 15, 2017, 10:16:45 AM
My site has nothing to do with my calling out for your idiocy, it matters not who or how long you've been here, I'll call anyone for making stupid comments.

No, wagging your tongue at someone because you somehow think you won some arbitrary point is, for all intents and purposes, is childish, so yeah, lib fits.
The point I made is that nothing has changed, regardless of scum hiding behind the TEA label, TEA is more alive today than ever, the constituency has not backed off on replacing these scum and the fact that 18 RINO only just recently announced they''re not running again is proof positive they see the ire of the base and have no interest in being publically humiliated.

So what was your point, that we've somehow been magically defeated, Is that your claim?

No that is not my point that the TP has been magically defeated. They have (most) that have been elected as TP are co opted and our now full fledged SWAMP members. People like Sal Russo,Club for Growth, Jenny Beth Martin, TP Patroits, Matt Kirby , Freedom Works all operatives of the RINOGOPe and made a fortune off the TP members when it started. Some took their money and bolted. . The members are good, smart people but the 1000+ organizations are what killed the TP. Not the members but the movement. 
The RINOS are really scared of BANNON and he exposing them not TRUMP or the Populist movement. They can handle that but Bannon if he gets on their case it is all over. You think BANNON is a AH and that is your opinion and that is cool. BUT the RINOS retiring has nothing to do with TRUMP but everything to do with BANNON and the MAGA movement. Want to hear your reaction when TRUMP throws MOORE under the bus? Hope he does not but he will because the RINOGOPe will lie to him, AGAIN and he wants Mitch and Paul to like him.  He needs the tax bill and TRUMP needs a success beside his SCOTUS nominee. TRUMP doing super on the economy but if that tax deal of 20 % for corporate does not go through no company or jobs promised is coming to the US and some will be leaving. :huh:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2017, 11:37:29 AM
Quote from: nzone on November 15, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
No that is not my point that the TP has been magically defeated. They have (most) that have been elected as TP are co opted and our now full fledged SWAMP members. People like Sal Russo,Club for Growth, Jenny Beth Martin, TP Patroits, Matt Kirby , Freedom Works all operatives of the RINOGOPe and made a fortune off the TP members when it started. Some took their money and bolted. . The members are good, smart people but the 1000+ organizations are what killed the TP. Not the members but the movement. 
The RINOS are really scared of BANNON and he exposing them not TRUMP or the Populist movement. They can handle that but Bannon if he gets on their case it is all over. You think BANNON is a AH and that is your opinion and that is cool. BUT the RINOS retiring has nothing to do with TRUMP but everything to do with BANNON and the MAGA movement. Want to hear your reaction when TRUMP throws MOORE under the bus? Hope he does not but he will because the RINOGOPe will lie to him, AGAIN and he wants Mitch and Paul to like him.  He needs the tax bill and TRUMP needs a success beside his SCOTUS nominee. TRUMP doing super on the economy but if that tax deal of 20 % for corporate does not go through no company or jobs promised is coming to the US and some will be leaving. :huh:
Those elected were not coopted, they ran as TEA to get elected, and showed their true colors immediately, such as Rubio.
And yes, they'll try again, but the base is so angry, they'd just as soon a Dim win in their stead.
As to the other Orgs, they may claim TEA, but everyone knows exactly what they are and pays them no attention.
Some were usurped by the Establishment while others simply claimed TEA status as a way of sucking in donations, and are now simply mouthpieces of the RINO'E and no longer get funding from the base, it all comes from the RNC.

The RINO retiring is not because of Bannon, rather they see the internal polling that shows they were going to be slaughtered anyway but we appreciate Bannon's help regardless.
As to Trump throwing Moore under the bus, what makes you think Trump wants to wallow in the mud with the pigs of the gop'E?
A smart man will simply let it play out, then comment afterward, and Trump is no dummy.

As to the tax Bill, this is all on the RINO, Trump has no control over the "Do Nothing Congress", that label now belongs to the RINO and no one else, not even the Dims can be blamed for their inability to come up with a working Bill.

How is that Trump's fault and how is it he's to be blamed for their incompetence when everyone with half a brain cell knows the Establishment hates him? Where do you get this stuff?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
Quote from: nzone on November 15, 2017, 11:08:27 AM
No that is not my point that the TP has been magically defeated. They have (most) that have been elected as TP are co opted and our now full fledged SWAMP members. People like Sal Russo,Club for Growth, Jenny Beth Martin, TP Patroits, Matt Kirby , Freedom Works all operatives of the RINOGOPe and made a fortune off the TP members when it started. Some took their money and bolted. . The members are good, smart people but the 1000+ organizations are what killed the TP. Not the members but the movement. 
The RINOS are really scared of BANNON and he exposing them not TRUMP or the Populist movement. They can handle that but Bannon if he gets on their case it is all over. You think BANNON is a AH and that is your opinion and that is cool. BUT the RINOS retiring has nothing to do with TRUMP but everything to do with BANNON and the MAGA movement. Want to hear your reaction when TRUMP throws MOORE under the bus? Hope he does not but he will because the RINOGOPe will lie to him, AGAIN and he wants Mitch and Paul to like him.  He needs the tax bill and TRUMP needs a success beside his SCOTUS nominee. TRUMP doing super on the economy but if that tax deal of 20 % for corporate does not go through no company or jobs promised is coming to the US and some will be leaving. :huh:

OH MY, the TP is dead again.  I will have to order 10.000 more Headstones for this year and next year.  What is it about shill that they have to keep killing off the TP just to make a point.  IF the TP is dead then why oh why is the RINO's working so damn hard to kill they off all the time.   You say the TP is dead, yet you post on a TP board.   IF the TP is dead WHY does it keep popping up in the MSM and Congress?   

Solar I will put in a new order for Headstones as I only have 300 left from the last 10.000 I order for this year.  :lol:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2017, 01:29:40 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
OH MY, the TP is dead again.  I will have to order 10.000 more Headstones for this year and next year.  What is it about shill that they have to keep killing off the TP just to make a point.  IF the TP is dead then why oh why is the RINO's working so damn hard to kill they off all the time.   You say the TP is dead, yet you post on a TP board.   IF the TP is dead WHY does it keep popping up in the MSM and Congress?   

Solar I will put in a new order for Headstones as I only have 300 left from the last 10.000 I order for this year.  :lol:
One giant monument with enough room to inscribe our death every day, from here till 2200.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 01:39:14 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 15, 2017, 01:29:40 PM
One giant monument with enough room to inscribe our death every day, from here till 2200.

:ohmy: I will check and see if they make one that big.  :lol:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 15, 2017, 01:50:22 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 01:39:14 PM
:ohmy: I will check and see if they make one that big.  :lol:

Trump's Wall. :biggrin:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Possum on November 15, 2017, 02:55:24 PM
Quote from: walkstall on November 15, 2017, 12:07:41 PM
OH MY, the TP is dead again.  I will have to order 10.000 more Headstones for this year and next year.  What is it about shill that they have to keep killing off the TP just to make a point.  IF the TP is dead then why oh why is the RINO's working so damn hard to kill they off all the time.   You say the TP is dead, yet you post on a TP board.   IF the TP is dead WHY does it keep popping up in the MSM and Congress?   

Solar I will put in a new order for Headstones as I only have 300 left from the last 10.000 I order for this year.  :lol:
I know hindsight is 20/20, but I sure wish I would have invested in the headstone business. :lol:

Hell, some of these graves must have a dozen headstones by now.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 16, 2017, 05:37:52 AM
Well... it couldn't have come sooner.   The case against Roy Moore is falling apart.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/moores-attorney-questions-whether-yearbook-signature-is-real/

read the article, it's short, but also missing a couple of curious points, beginning with the "77" written in a different style, and now it's being said the B/W photo of the year book is obscuring the two different colors of ink (ie., someone added something to the text, some time later).

I got a question the MSM is missing:  If someone tried to rape you, molest you or you knew was really an evil, perverse person - why would you allow that person to preside over your Divorce trial without raising a fit?  If it's someone you pushed away previously, wouldn't you at least ASK for a new Judge?   Maybe it was one of those "messy" divorces that required a Judge, like the guy was trying to get away from a gold-digging woman... she was trying to take-him-for-every-thing... who knows?   Just curious.

IMHO, this is right out of the Democrat playbook, doesn't matter if they're guilty of it, but, since Republicans try to set a higher standard, well... hell's bells!   Make them LIVE UP to it, and what better way to take down a moral man (we hope), then tag him with the worst set of "sins" possible - he's a sexual predator.   We've already seen video after video of a former VP groping CHILDREN, and he gets a pass?

But, the story is falling apart in less than a week, and the brave congress is passing legislation against sexual harassment - with the LOOMING problem of women in their midst sounding off about the promiscuity in elevators, congressional offices and even on the floor of the house...???   Should we call it the "Whore House of Representatives?"   What's more, Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell the two leaders, probably *KNOW* who the perpetrators are (it's so bad, they passed a law against themselves!) - but are covering for the guilty parties!?

It's OK to go back 38-40 years and skewer a 70 year old man, who has a unabashed decades long record of pro-life, pro-marriage & family, with hearsay, but be completely SILENT when they stand in your halls of Congress today!?  Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are co-conspirators in covering up sexual assaults.  Again, if the problem is so bad as to address it by passing a bill - start naming names, Paul & Mitch!  We have a right-to-know who these criminals are, and you better deal with them - 'cause the evidence you've got against Roy Moore is pretty flimsy, but you've got all you need right there in Congress!
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: ldub23 on November 16, 2017, 06:40:33 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 16, 2017, 05:37:52 AM
Well... it couldn't have come sooner.   The case against Roy Moore is falling apart.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/moores-attorney-questions-whether-yearbook-signature-is-real/

read the article, it's short, but also missing a couple of curious points, beginning with the "77" written in a different style, and now it's being said the B/W photo of the year book is obscuring the two different colors of ink (ie., someone added something to the text, some time later).

I got a question the MSM is missing:  If someone tried to rape you, molest you or you knew was really an evil, perverse person - why would you allow that person to preside over your Divorce trial without raising a fit?  If it's someone you pushed away previously, wouldn't you at least ASK for a new Judge?   Maybe it was one of those "messy" divorces that required a Judge, like the guy was trying to get away from a gold-digging woman... she was trying to take-him-for-every-thing... who knows?   Just curious.

IMHO, this is right out of the Democrat playbook, doesn't matter if they're guilty of it, but, since Republicans try to set a higher standard, well... hell's bells!   Make them LIVE UP to it, and what better way to take down a moral man (we hope), then tag him with the worst set of "sins" possible - he's a sexual predator.   We've already seen video after video of a former VP groping CHILDREN, and he gets a pass?

But, the story is falling apart in less than a week, and the brave congress is passing legislation against sexual harassment - with the LOOMING problem of women in their midst sounding off about the promiscuity in elevators, congressional offices and even on the floor of the house...???   Should we call it the "Whore House of Representatives?"   What's more, Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell the two leaders, probably *KNOW* who the perpetrators are (it's so bad, they passed a law against themselves!) - but are covering for the guilty parties!?

It's OK to go back 38-40 years and skewer a 70 year old man, who has a unabashed decades long record of pro-life, pro-marriage & family, with hearsay, but be completely SILENT when they stand in your halls of Congress today!?  Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are co-conspirators in covering up sexual assaults.  Again, if the problem is so bad as to address it by passing a bill - start naming names, Paul & Mitch!  We have a right-to-know who these criminals are, and you better deal with them - 'cause the evidence you've got against Roy Moore is pretty flimsy, but you've got all you need right there in Congress!

I wish just one reporter would ask Paul or Mitch if they agree that the concept of "innocent until proven guilty" is  no longer a valid  concept and should be replaced with guilty  unless proven innocent.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 16, 2017, 09:46:22 AM
Boy, it REALLY sucks to be a LIBERAL... and get caught with your hands all over the... a.. ah... er...

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOw3SSrWsAARFtX.jpg)

Al Frankin never should have held office - not they got a reason to dump him.   Unfortunately, it mean another whack-job replacement.  Apparently.... Al has a history of chasing skirts, and this deal with Judge Moore is swinging the door wide open (we hope), to draining the DC swamp.   Really SUCKS when Liberals get stuck in pickle, a picture is worth a thousand words, and then the lady goes on the air to say it was unwanted.   

My, my, my... what's a liberal to do?  2006 was a L-O-N-G time ago, he was only joking, right?   It's amusing to hear the liberals AND McConnell to stutter & pop, tripped up by their own FALSE sense of morality.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: redbeard on November 16, 2017, 05:40:26 PM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 16, 2017, 05:37:52 AM
Well... it couldn't have come sooner.   The case against Roy Moore is falling apart.

http://dailycaller.com/2017/11/15/moores-attorney-questions-whether-yearbook-signature-is-real/

read the article, it's short, but also missing a couple of curious points, beginning with the "77" written in a different style, and now it's being said the B/W photo of the year book is obscuring the two different colors of ink (ie., someone added something to the text, some time later).

I got a question the MSM is missing:  If someone tried to rape you, molest you or you knew was really an evil, perverse person - why would you allow that person to preside over your Divorce trial without raising a fit?  If it's someone you pushed away previously, wouldn't you at least ASK for a new Judge?   Maybe it was one of those "messy" divorces that required a Judge, like the guy was trying to get away from a gold-digging woman... she was trying to take-him-for-every-thing... who knows?   Just curious.

IMHO, this is right out of the Democrat playbook, doesn't matter if they're guilty of it, but, since Republicans try to set a higher standard, well... hell's bells!   Make them LIVE UP to it, and what better way to take down a moral man (we hope), then tag him with the worst set of "sins" possible - he's a sexual predator.   We've already seen video after video of a former VP groping CHILDREN, and he gets a pass?

But, the story is falling apart in less than a week, and the brave congress is passing legislation against sexual harassment - with the LOOMING problem of women in their midst sounding off about the promiscuity in elevators, congressional offices and even on the floor of the house...???   Should we call it the "Whore House of Representatives?"   What's more, Paul Ryan & Mitch McConnell the two leaders, probably *KNOW* who the perpetrators are (it's so bad, they passed a law against themselves!) - but are covering for the guilty parties!?

It's OK to go back 38-40 years and skewer a 70 year old man, who has a unabashed decades long record of pro-life, pro-marriage & family, with hearsay, but be completely SILENT when they stand in your halls of Congress today!?  Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell are co-conspirators in covering up sexual assaults.  Again, if the problem is so bad as to address it by passing a bill - start naming names, Paul & Mitch!  We have a right-to-know who these criminals are, and you better deal with them - 'cause the evidence you've got against Roy Moore is pretty flimsy, but you've got all you need right there in Congress!
Moore missed the best defense he should have used from the start! The Sugar daddy defense. Isn't it terrible how these pretty young girls get away with taking advantage an older guy for his money? And every time a new one pops up you just say SEE!! use humor! Republicans still have a sense of humor Dim's don't! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 16, 2017, 07:32:17 PM
Moore's attorney hasn't helped him at all.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 17, 2017, 08:21:14 AM


Allred, the bumbling idiot lib. :lol: :lol: :lol:

TUR: Does your client, Beverly Young Nelson, remember him signing it?

ALLRED: She remembers — well, she remembers being with him. It was on the counter. She alleges that he took it, that he signed it and she was thrilled that he had signed it, because, as far as she knew, he was a D.A. and that was an important position.

TUR: So she saw him sign it?

ALLRED: I don't believe at the time she had a clue whether he was an assistant D.A. or a D.A., but he signed it, she took it. As far as she knows, I mean, there's no reason for her to think it's anybody's but his signature.

TUR: But did she see him sign it?

ALLRED: You know, I don't — I haven't asked her if she saw him, but we did describe what happened that evening in question. What she alleges was that she put it on the counter; that I think she asked to sign — or that he did sign it. That's all.

TUR: I ask this, because it seems you're not 100% sure that it is his signature, and if you're not 100% sure that it is his signature, why would you show it at a press conference?

ALLRED: Well, why would — you know, why does anybody doubt that it is his signature?
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: taxed on November 18, 2017, 01:43:53 PM
Quote from: Solar on November 17, 2017, 08:21:14 AM

Allred, the bumbling idiot lib. :lol: :lol: :lol:

TUR: Does your client, Beverly Young Nelson, remember him signing it?

ALLRED: She remembers — well, she remembers being with him. It was on the counter. She alleges that he took it, that he signed it and she was thrilled that he had signed it, because, as far as she knew, he was a D.A. and that was an important position.

TUR: So she saw him sign it?

ALLRED: I don't believe at the time she had a clue whether he was an assistant D.A. or a D.A., but he signed it, she took it. As far as she knows, I mean, there's no reason for her to think it's anybody's but his signature.

TUR: But did she see him sign it?

ALLRED: You know, I don't — I haven't asked her if she saw him, but we did describe what happened that evening in question. What she alleges was that she put it on the counter; that I think she asked to sign — or that he did sign it. That's all.

TUR: I ask this, because it seems you're not 100% sure that it is his signature, and if you're not 100% sure that it is his signature, why would you show it at a press conference?

ALLRED: Well, why would — you know, why does anybody doubt that it is his signature?

You know when Katy Tur takes you down, you're a moron.  I got the sense that Allred tried to distance herself from the yearbook the instant Tur asked her.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 18, 2017, 01:53:33 PM
Quote from: taxed on November 18, 2017, 01:43:53 PM
You know when Katy Tur takes you down, you're a moron.  I got the sense that Allred tried to distance herself from the yearbook the instant Tur asked her.
Trying desperately to be credible, while not offending a friend, eh?   Oh to have been a fly-on-the-wall after stupid interviews like that...

Or would it just simply be, "I can't believe I went on NATIONAL TELEVISION with THIS CRAP!!!  Who came up with this MORON!?  Give me that puppy story, kitten in the tree - WTF are you trying to do to me!?!?!?  Just put a "D" after my name & call me Katy TURD!!!"   well. we can only hope.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Cryptic Bert on November 18, 2017, 06:29:46 PM
Wait....


TUR: Does your client, Beverly Young Nelson, remember him signing it?

ALLRED: She remembers — well, she remembers being with him. It was on the counter. She alleges that he took it, that he signed it and she was thrilled that he had signed it, because, as far as she knew, he was a D.A. and that was an important position.

TUR: So she saw him sign it?

ALLRED: I don't believe at the time she had a clue whether he was an assistant D.A. or a D.A., but he signed it, she took it. As far as she knows, I mean, there's no reason for her to think it's anybody's but his signature.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Ms.Independence on November 24, 2017, 07:46:32 PM
My two cents on Moore.  McConnell raised a boat load of money to ensure that he was defeated and it didn't work.  McConnell is known to use funds from the NRSC to ensure that no conservative or undesirables are seated in his country club.  IMHO, this is the handiwork of McConnell and cronies as they see Moore as a threat.  As for the accusers; Moore has been in the political arena for 40 years and you would think that they would have brought up these allegations long before now to end his career; all of a sudden because he's running for the Senate, now, they're coming forward?  I'm not buying it.  As for the year book; i find it hard to believe that a man who is much older than his accuser and who also holds public office would be stupid enough to write in a yearbook and then sign it and title it...just doesn't seem probable.

Perhaps equally concerning is the fact that Lee and Cruz both have distanced themselves from him which is surprising as certainly they know that he has been accused; not convicted.  There is no way after all this time to prove that he is guilty and secondly Cruz better than anyone knows McConnell's tactics and yet he has pulled his support.  He could have very easily left matters alone and stated that the issue was up to the voters in AL and called for him to step down IF indeed he was guilty.  To pull support only relays the message that they feel he is guilty. 
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Sauce on November 25, 2017, 05:29:01 AM
Quote from: Solar on November 25, 2017, 04:02:24 AM
In Your Opinion?

Those are the current leftist talking points running the Washington circuit.
Do you ever actually question the pablum leftist media feeds you? Try this on for size, put yourself in his position.
His lawyers are in the process of wrapping this nonsense up, they contact Trump's lawyers and explain a closing ploy, agree the case is closed, both attornies agree and thank one another for all the work.

In the meantime, the left is feverishly working with nothing outside of leftist media to spin this as a possible flip. This is pablum for the masses, the only thing they'll remember from all this bull shit is a Trump guy was investigated and 'almost turned on Trump. There was no almost, but that's what the LSM just convinced you is happening.
Nothing happens, and next week the left floats another story created out of whole cloth.

You claim you don't get your news from leftist sources, yet you come here and puke Washpo verbatim?

I am no rocket surgeon, but I don't see anything in what Ms. posted that sounds like she posted anything that is left wing propaganda.

And I honestly have no clue what you posted....again, no claim of being a political science major and also confess to not having read this thread completely.

I Swear I am not trying to be a contrarian, I just don't  get the intensity of your response not to mention the point you were making.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Hoofer on November 25, 2017, 07:15:22 AM
Quote from: The Boo Man... on November 18, 2017, 06:29:46 PM
Wait....


TUR: Does your client, Beverly Young Nelson, remember him signing it?

ALLRED: She remembers — well, she remembers being with him. It was on the counter. She alleges that he took it, that he signed it and she was thrilled that he had signed it, because, as far as she knew, he was a D.A. and that was an important position.

TUR: So she saw him sign it?

ALLRED: I don't believe at the time she had a clue whether he was an assistant D.A. or a D.A., but he signed it, she took it. As far as she knows, I mean, there's no reason for her to think it's anybody's but his signature.

Allred putting words in the mouth of her client, and positioning her argument, "there's no reason for her to think it's anybody's but his signature".   Neat trick.  So, we're suppose to FORGET the question entirely, "Does your client, Beverly Young Nelson, remember him signing it?"   - the obvious answer is "NOPE!  Doesn't really know WHO signed it."
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2017, 07:22:51 AM
Quote from: Hoofer on November 25, 2017, 07:15:22 AM
Allred putting words in the mouth of her client, and positioning her argument, "there's no reason for her to think it's anybody's but his signature".   Neat trick.  So, we're suppose to FORGET the question entirely, "Does your client, Beverly Young Nelson, remember him signing it?"   - the obvious answer is "NOPE!  Doesn't really know WHO signed it."
Or when it magically appeared in the book. Was it last week, or the month before, something forensic analysis can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt.
Allred needs to be brought up on charges of fraud for this BS.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: Solar on November 25, 2017, 07:31:01 AM
Quote from: Sauce on November 25, 2017, 05:29:01 AM
I am no rocket surgeon, but I don't see anything in what Ms. posted that sounds like she posted anything that is left wing propaganda.

And I honestly have no clue what you posted....again, no claim of being a political science major and also confess to not having read this thread completely.

I Swear I am not trying to be a contrarian, I just don't  get the intensity of your response not to mention the point you were making.
Sauce, my bad. I somehow mixed up two different threads and posted to the wrong one.
You are correct, she is right on this one, so I'll have to try and straighten out this mess somehow.
I opened two threads at the same time and responded in the wrong order.
Title: Re: I don't believe Roy Moore accusations until I see hard evidence
Post by: supsalemgr on November 30, 2017, 08:15:57 AM
http://www.thegoldwater.com/news/12995-Alabama-Democrats-Registering-Convicted-Felons-in-Effort-to-Steal-Election-from-Roy-Moore

Disclaimer: I am not familiar with this news source.

The AL democrats are reverting to their old playbook. When in doubt, find some felons to register to vote.  :lol: :lol: